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    Posted: 29 November 2012 at 00:41
I purchased a Sony A33 in mint condition with less than 2,000 actuations today along with a Sony DT 35mm 1.8 lens for $380.00. The camera is going to be a gift for my fiance'. I am interested in selling the lens to purchase a zoom lens for her so she will have a little more flexibility at the onset.

I have all my lenses for my A65 that will work on her camera; however, I would like to find a good walk around lens for her to use and keep with her camera. Call me paranoid but I am meticulous about my lenses and would rather she drop something else in the event that was to happen.

Ideally I would like to find a sharp lens with a moderate amount of zoom, a short MFD and good color reproduction. I am partial to the old Minolta lenses and would love some input in that regard. I know the Minolta 35-70 is a decent little lens. I had a hard time with mine on macro focusing though. The last parameter to consider is that I would like the lens to cost nearly the same as I can sell the DT35 for; which should be $160 to $180.00.

Thanks in advance to anyone and everyone that responds!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guyver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 00:46
I am purchasing a Minolta 35-105mm lens with a macro hack from Al; a senior member here on Dyxum, and would consider that for my fiance' although the MFD is a big concern and I don't know if the macro hack rectifies that to the point of it functioning like a normal zoom.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote al Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 00:53
Hi Gene, on this particular lens, the macro mode works only at the 105mm setting. In this mode at 105mm, the lens can focus a bit closer than the normal 1.5 meters. I think it is about 0.4 meters in macro mode.

Normally, focusing in macro mode is manual only. The "macro hack" allows auto focus to work - but still, only at 105mm. It won't help at any other focal length. So this lens might not be the right lens for what you want.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guyver Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 00:56
Gotchya Al; still interested in the lens for myself. From what I have read it is a good little lens. I have the range covered; however, I would like to see what this lens produces.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote al Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 01:03
If you are looking for good Minolta lenses for the A33, consider the 24-85, 24-105, and 28-105. I think anything starting at 35 is too narrow for a "walk around" lens, but that's just me.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote coyote1086 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 01:32
with the amount of $160-$180, you could get a 18-55 kit lens + a 100-200/4.5

Someone is selling a 18-55 for $30 here in Dyxum
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/canada-world-minolta-100300-3570-sony-1855_topic93287.html

and you might be able to afford a beercan (instead of the 100-200) with the remainder of the money. Just a thought.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote ifreedman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 01:48
For an all-purpose zoom, I think you would want something that's at least decently wide. Although much maligned, some people have found good copies of the Sony 18-70 that please them. Or you could think about a Tamron/Sigma/Other 18-200 hyperzoom, but image quality will not be what you'd get from the 35 1.8.

However, my top suggestion would probably be the Sigma 18-125 DC HSM (note: don't confuse this w/ the non-HSM version, which is cheaper but not as well regarded.) Used copies are right in your price range, and it has pretty good reviews to go with a pretty good zoom range. Since some Sigma lenses have had problems with SLT cameras, you might need to return it to Sigma where (for free, I'll believe) they'll fix it and return it to you. I'm not sure if that's an issue for this lens or not. You might want to look at online reviews of this lens, but the ones I've seen seem favorable. (note: I've not used this lens.)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ifreedman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 01:51
BTW: if you decide on a lens, instead of selling the 35 1.8 and buying a different lens, you might want to go to the "Want to buy/trade" sub-forum and see if anyone wants to trade for your 35 1.8.

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I own a Mino 28-85 with macro. A great little walk around short range lens.

http://www.keh.com/camera/Minolta-Maxxum-Zoom-Lenses/1/sku-MA070090433850?r=FE

Pair with a Mino 100-300 with macro and you would be set for a nice starter kit under $100

http://www.keh.com/camera/Minolta-Maxxum-Zoom-Lenses/1/sku-MA07009031587J?r=FE

both have 55mm filter rings. both are light and compact style lens. A very good weight/size to zoom ratio.

I think these together weight less than a "secrect handshake" ,"beercan" or "big beercan"

I also like my Tamron 35-135 with macro for a walk-around. I just set my wife up with my backup camera.
Any of these lenses go between my A330(backup) and my A580.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bill_bly_ca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 02:43
+1 on 35mm on APS being a bit too long for APS zoom starting point.

I can not see your logic for selling the 35. It is a gem of a lens and with new ones going for $190 how much do you think you will get for the 35.. Unless you have one already.

There is the 28 - 105 that goes for cheap (Sub $100) and is just about right on APS .

KEH has a few now between $79 to $119 with no charge shipping..

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blame Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 08:45
This just keeps coming up.

If you want a decent standard zoom for an APC-S camera you are going to need a fairly modern lens built for the job.

All the old ones were designed for full frame and the are ether not wide enough, too expensive or of too poor a quality to compete with what is now a highly competitive market.

If you want a lens that says "I love you" go for a Sony kit 18-55 lens or if you can afford it a tamron 17-50/2.8.

Think about keeping the 35mm. It is a very good lens.
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i used the sony and sigma 18-200mm as walk-around lenses and was quite happy with that. Great range and for the price, decent quality.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ifreedman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 13:45
Remember the OP has lenses already and is looking for something for his fiancee. And we don't know whether how much of a photog the fiancee is or whether she wants to bother with changing lenses or carry around equipment. The OP was also fairly strict with the budget, so some lenses like the Tamron 17-50 (used $300+) are great, but out of his price range.

Honestly, it might help if you let us know which lenses you already have (and which you'd be willing to let your fiancee use ). Or better idea -- give the gift as-is, and let the fiancee use the camera with some of your lenses so she can decide what kind of lens she likes best, and tell her that you can exchange the 35 1.8 for a different lens, but you wanted her to weigh in on what that lens should be.

My favorite focal lengths tend to be short telephoto (great for portraits), but on an A33, even I think that 28mm isn't wide enough for an all-purpose zoom. So the 28-105 is a great lens, but I agree that a more modern and wider lens might be better. Even the 24-105 would be a significant improvement, although 18mm is better IMO.
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Originally posted by bill_bly_ca bill_bly_ca wrote:


I can not see your logic for selling the 35. It is a gem of a lens and with new ones going for $190 how much do you think you will get for the 35.. Unless you have one already.


+1

I would just start with the 35DT, and if you must have a zoom, find a kit lens on the cheap. The flexibility a zoom offers is nice and all, but it's way overrated.

IMHO you/she will get a whole lot more out of a fast 35 with amazing IQ and very short MFD, than a bargain zoom.
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