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After watching this pics, I think I am going to try to find this lens used. One year or another it will be mine.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote peterw13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2006 at 11:56
These were posted too in another thread about this lens:

J.Greely STF samples

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Originally posted by gsaronni gsaronni wrote:

After watching this pics, I think I am going to try to find this lens used. One year or another it will be mine.

Regards


love it "one day or another" or where the STF is concerned "one year or another"!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wblc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2006 at 21:37
Originally posted by ab012 ab012 wrote:


Funny how the arrival of the STF suddenly means that 'faults' are found in the 85 1.4 bokeh ;)

Amazing, isnít it? I didnít really expect to see such a noticeable difference.

Originally posted by ab012 ab012 wrote:

btw Kiklop and wblc:
If you want I can send you the following highlight samples to add to wblc's comparison shots (as eg tag along with his dedicated page)


Contribute away! The more the merrier.

Originally posted by DcapVividOptic DcapVividOptic wrote:

The net really needs a decent point of reference for this lens. In fact this is the only COMPARISON sample set I've seen.


I searched for a while before buying and I couldnít find any comparisons either. When I looked at the various 135STF images posted on the web, bokeh certainly looked good. But for me, itís hard to tell how good without a point of reference.   Having spent some time with this unique lens, Iím surprised that there isnít more published about it somewhere on the net.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Reto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2006 at 22:43
As the comparison seems to have found an interested audience, I don't want to spare you from a comparison shot between the 135 STF and the 100/2.8 Macro (D) I did just yesterday. Fine lenses as they both are, I did it to satisfy my curiosity, so there's a number of things relevant to know about the shots:

- Both were taken handheld
- Other than wblc I changed the position between the two shots in order to have about the same take on the subject, a cactus.
- By mistake I shot the 100/2.8 @ f4.5 instead of f2.8, I only realized this at home - I'm sorry for that
- AS obviously works with the STF. I remember a posting somewhere that discussed this topic (probably not on dyxum though)

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135 STF@f2.8[T4.5], 1/60s



100/2.8 Macro (D)@f2.8, 1/100s
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wblc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2006 at 23:11
Another interesting comparison! Thanks Reto.

I updated the original post to include camera set up info. I also added two comparison sequences after the STF to 80-200 HS G compare. The first shows how stopping down the 135STF affects bokeh. The other compares the 135STF and original 135 when both are stopped down.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote W&7D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 August 2006 at 00:04
Hi all,

Wblc, wonderfull work indeed!

Lately I am experimenting with the 135mmSTF as a 'macro' lens.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrvanstraalen/205888162/

(70-200mmSSM with pol.filter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrvanstraalen/205882496/ )

I think people with a flickr acount can see all photo's.


Question: there are 2 diafragms, how do you use it?

I use A mode and lens 'A' and choose the diafragm with the camera. BUT I can also choose a diafragm value on the lens first(so not 'A')

Is there any difference? Or do both methods do the same? (then it would effectively work as one diafragm)

Sorry as this sounds a bit confused and geeky, but I try to understand this gem! :-) Thank you for your time.

Kind regards,

Wouter.


Btw I don't think the 85mm has bad bokeh at all (looking at your photo's) and certainly has its place.(and it has AF) And there should also be a 'limited edition' with even more optimised bokeh.


Edited by W&7D - 16 August 2006 at 00:08
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Post Options Post Options   Quote wblc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 August 2006 at 07:42
Originally posted by W&7D W&7D wrote:


Question: there are 2 diafragms, how do you use it?

I use the manual aperture almost all the time because it allows smaller adjustments than A mode does. The number of blades is different, and there is some space between the diaphrams, so their positions relative to the lens elements are different. I don't know how these differences affect the images. I haven't compared images using the 2 different diaphrams at the same aperture.

Originally posted by W&7D W&7D wrote:


Btw I don't think the 85mm has bad bokeh at all (looking at your photo's) and certainly has its place.(and it has AF) And there should also be a 'limited edition' with even more optimised bokeh.

I agree that the 85 does not have bad bokeh. I very much like the lens, but the 85mm bokeh is not quite as good as bokeh in the STF images.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote W&7D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 August 2006 at 09:26
HI Wblc,

To start with the latter, of course it is not as good, I completely agree with that. But then again the 135mm STF is made for it! The bokey of the 100/2.8 Macro, according to your comparison is not that pleasent.

About the 2 diaphrams. I have a strong feeling that it doesn't matter. And thus that the 2 diaphrams don't move/function independently.

Anyway, great lens Good fun! :-)

Edited by W&7D - 16 August 2006 at 09:29
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