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Touchdown
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Topic: A200 vs A230Posted: 01 August 2009 at 20:32 |
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Hi All
I have the A200 and I'm trying to determine the principle differences between these two cameras. I'm primarily interested in IQ differences if any. As far as I know the A230 is slightly smaller, has beginner menues, and for the most part is virtually the same as the A200. Your input will be appreciated. |
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Elisha
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Posted: 01 August 2009 at 21:00 |
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rumour is that the jpeg engine may have been improved but not sure if that is a fact.
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5thElefant
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Posted: 01 August 2009 at 21:07 |
Yeah, that sums it up. I believe it lacks the wired remote plug too. No obvious improvements. |
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Winwalloe
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Posted: 01 August 2009 at 22:05 |
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Outside the IQ thing: different type of battery, takes SD or MS duo instead of CF cards, no vertical grip option (and no AEL button, selection of the spot focus point in the menu).
Only good thing: the flash raises a little higher. edit: the a230 features an HDMI output Edited by Winwalloe - 01 August 2009 at 22:09 |
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Touchdown
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Posted: 01 August 2009 at 22:16 |
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Hi Again
Is it safe to say, the IQ of the A230 is equal to or better than the IQ of the A200 (includes low light performance)? This IQ comparison is very important as my friend absolutely likes the IQ of the A200. |
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Ed
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Dave18
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Posted: 02 August 2009 at 06:58 |
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Why did they remove the remote socket I use mine a lot for landscape work, it has to be a backward step + the A230 is more expensive.
I use mine for landscape work only, I'm not interested in low light (high iso) performance so I find it perfect for my needs just get some good glass and you can compete with the best for this type of photography. Dave |
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fauxpas
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Posted: 02 August 2009 at 10:36 |
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The A230 looks like a hairdresser's camera... Less DSLR like...
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Winwalloe
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Posted: 02 August 2009 at 12:22 |
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The a230 will probably be very cheap in a few month. The a200 was at least 40% more expensive here when it was released.
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grubster
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Posted: 02 August 2009 at 12:56 |
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Pick up an a230 in store and you will keep your A200. A230 feels like a toy in comparison. The plastic used for the body is truly awful and the build is poor. Also you will loose a stack of features.
A230 is a pointless body IMHO. |
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godsakes
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Posted: 03 August 2009 at 15:36 |
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it seem the only thing about the new 30/80 models has which i would really want over the older models is the taller inbuilt flash.
HMDI output is also nice but i'm indifferent worse handle grip, smaller battery means the older models win overall and after you factor in the price difference it's a no brainer |
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MiPr
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Posted: 03 August 2009 at 16:03 |
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As for the IQ - I have not compared them but I think that they are very close or even indifferent.
With A230 you get: * HDMI output, * Different view on the display, * SD cards instead of CF, but at the same time you loose: * ergonomics (grip is not pleasant to hold and the front wheel is awfully placed: low and horizontally instead of high and vertically - try to operate it and you'll see how bad this solution is), * AE lock - and I do not mean the button - no AE lock at all. It's your decision whether you can live without it or not. For me it's a deal breaker because I had at least a few situations where I used this feature, * WB control - no Kelvin setting any more. Again - can be a deal breaker depending on whether you use it or not, * CF cards are gone (personally I do not care - SDs are equally good and easier to use in a computer since many laptops have integrated card readers now - but not CF card readers), * Good battery - the new one used in A230 has smaller capacity, which means fewer shots per charge (and these new accus are a bit pricier than accu for A200!), * Vertical grip - there is no such beast for A230/330/380, at least so far, * Power of integrated flash - the one on A230 is less powerful (GN is 10 vs 12 on A200), * Eye relief in A230 is 16.5mm as opposed to 17.6mm on A200, * Speed - A200 is 3fps, A230 is 2.5fps - maybe not much but still, * Weight - A230 is lighter, * Price - A200 will cost you less at this moment. Uff, that's all I think. Decision is up to you, but personally I'm far from encouraging anybody to buy A230 - for myself I would buy A200 (chaper and better photographically; IQ difference is probably negligible). |
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MiPr
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Posted: 03 August 2009 at 16:20 |
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Ahh, I've forgotten to add: on A230 you have no remote release socket but you can use IR remote to operate it.
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Posted: 03 August 2009 at 22:52 |
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MiPr: I tried to write something similar but I see you found more cons, I agree with your list. Unfortunatelly Sony(and not alone) push prices down but customers then pay for it. I think in near future(almost now) we will need to buy some step-up model to cover even basic needs because entry-level will be almost unusable.
Main features what I like on A200 and would miss on A230: - ergonomics: A200 is almost ideal size+weight for me and something smaller and lighter is worse - battery: I like percentage reading on A200 as it gives accurate info about remaining shots, also A200 battery capacity is very good. - AEL lock button: I use it relatively often in problematic scenes with highlights/shadows. - remote controller: I use wired shutter release(cheap 3rd party) for tripod and macro shots. If A230 will have IR remote option probably shutter only(like Nikon), no half press(focus) like wired one have. - VG: I don't have it but I plan to buy(after try) in future so option for inteligent VG(with contacts) is not useless. |
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Posted: 03 August 2009 at 23:07 |
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Personally im hanging onto my A100 twin turrets, DOF preview, mirror lockup, slower af, worse high Iso and all
Now if i could just find a clean fbf'd fixed 7D......... Edited by dorian-grey - 03 August 2009 at 23:08 |
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