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    Posted: 03 September 2018 at 06:27
Hello there,
Hope everyone had a nice summer.

I have been shooting multi row panoramas with a nodal ninja panorama head and my a77ii. My collection of lenses are 8mm samyang fisheye, Tokina 11-16 2.8, Tamron 24-70 2.8, min 80-200 2.8 HS apo and a bunch of other value quality FF minolta glass.

Since I am printing these panoramas onto 8 foot x 1 foot plexi glass, it seems that at 42 Mp compared to my 24 Mp would be a good upgrade.

This year I volunteered my photo prowess to my sons hockey league to improve their website, marketing and keep the families engaged with *hopefully* good hockey action shots with fantastic facial expressions. The 80-200 works very well for this.

I would really like to get a new to me or a refurbished a99ii.

I don't know if it's time to switch to a7x yet.

Can you help me with your experiences.








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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 September 2018 at 08:30
I hope the people on the southern hemisphere will get a nice summer

If you want to use your A mount lenses, keep with A mount. The A7 series will need new lenses.

If you use the 11-16 a lot, you might want to replace that one to make use of the full 42mp of the A99m2. If you're okay with 20mp,it works just fine.

The AF of the A99m2 is better then the AF of the A77m2, that is nice for those hockey (ice hockey, I assume) pictures. Even if your lenses are not optimized (being non Sony) the AF still is better.

I got my A77m2 for a safari next to my A900. I then considered going APS-C with the A77m2 until I got the A99m2. I am very, very happy with it. It is a better camera in every respect.

Some here will say go A7, but looking at your line up, that would mean getting new lenses. Especially for those hockey pictures you'll need native glass to keep up with the speed. And if you want those 42mp,you'll be looking at the A7r2 or the A7r3 - those focus less good then the A99m2 (or A7 mk 3). So, I think the A99m2 is your best option if you want to go 42mp.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Metroruss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2018 at 16:19
Hi Addy,

Thank you for your reply.
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70-210 Minolta f4, Min 100-300mm, Min 50mm, Min 28mm, Min 35-70mm, Min 35-105mm, Tokina 11-16 2.8, Tamron 28-75 2.8, NN 4 w/RD16 rotator
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 9000AF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2018 at 18:02
Another vote for the A99II. I just received my refurbished A99II in time for my kids' sports season. I had rented one for an indoor hockey (the one without ice) last winter and liked it a lot, using my 80-200 HS G. The A77II has served me well and works great outdoors, but I rarely go above ISO 1600. The A99II produced very usable ISO 6400 shots for me and AF is a notch up from the already good A77II.

I was considering the A7III, but needing to invest in a new native 70-200 and having to adapt my SSM lenses (24-70, 70-300, 70-400) via LA-EA3 seemed like a technically inferior and more expensive solution.
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The A99ii is a great camera, it only made my Tamron 24-70 (USD version) very slow in AF. Still good for more static objects, but if you use that lens a lot, also for sports, it may give you a headache. I don't know if others have similar experiences, or that is just me. I have bought a used CZ24-70ZA (m1), which works great for me on the a99ii.
The 42mp gives you some room for cropping as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote djfoxy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 06:55
I had posted in the shots of August of DPReview a pano I had done during my holidays this summer.

It's a bracketed panorama. A99ii with Sony 28-75/2.8 on tripod

A good example of how the details will get you to the 42Mpx sensor of Sony ;)

https://4.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/61557306/2cac14bc58094581b2182866c75a7048
Minolta: XG1/ D7D/<beercan>135 f2.8/ 35-70 f4/ 35-105/ 70-210 f4/ 100-200 f4.5</beercan>/ 500 f8/ 17-35 f2.8-4/   50 f1.7/   50 & 100 f2.8 macro
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 13:12
Details are of course great for landscapes, I shot my niece's wedding last weekend with the a99II and Zeiss 24-70 G2 (also had the a99 with 70-200 G on it and took only 2 shots) and the details in the beaded wedding dress are outstanding. But then you scroll up to the skin and there's a mole, and a freckle, and another and on and on. Bare back and bare arms and one blemish on her cheek the make up artist missed, I was shooting for 6 hours that day and have probably spent half of that time in processing already with about half of the keepers finished.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote djfoxy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 14:42
Originally posted by stiuskr stiuskr wrote:

Details are of course great for landscapes, I shot my niece's wedding last weekend with the a99II and Zeiss 24-70 G2 (also had the a99 with 70-200 G on it and took only 2 shots) and the details in the beaded wedding dress are outstanding. But then you scroll up to the skin and there's a mole, and a freckle, and another and on and on. Bare back and bare arms and one blemish on her cheek the make up artist missed, I was shooting for 6 hours that day and have probably spent half of that time in processing already with about half of the keepers finished.


What do you mean ? That you got too much details for skin ?    I shot for one of my best friends wedding aside the official one with the A7R2 and Sony A 28-75/2.8 on LEAE3: It is the outstanding results out of the sensor and 5 axis IBIS that sold me to the A99mark2 and I enjoy it fully.
Minolta: XG1/ D7D/<beercan>135 f2.8/ 35-70 f4/ 35-105/ 70-210 f4/ 100-200 f4.5</beercan>/ 500 f8/ 17-35 f2.8-4/   50 f1.7/   50 & 100 f2.8 macro
Sony: A58/ A77ii / 28-75 f2.8 SAM/ DT 35 f1.8/ 85 f2.8
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 16:43
Yes, there is a downside to high resolution. I'm not complaining though and it's an easy fix with the Healing brush. I'm very pleased with the results, which ever one they pick to hang on the wall is going to look great and there's a lot to pick from.
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I think photographers are being mislead by the current no AA filter fad on high end cameras (i.e., all the 42 MP cameras). A good AA filter should actually increase apparent resolution. I really dislike seeing false detail and aliasing in my images--it is not realistic.

It is too bad A-mount lacks a current sensor with an AA filter.

Edited by QuietOC - 14 September 2018 at 17:21
A68 30M 35 50 60M 16-50 16-80 18-55 18-70 18-135 55-200 55-300
A6000 LA-EA1 6.5 16 20 30 50 60 16-50 18-55 55-210
600si: 20 24 28 50 100M 135 24-85 24-105 28-105 35-70 35-105 70-210 75-300 100-200
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Originally posted by stiuskr stiuskr wrote:

Yes, there is a downside to high resolution. I'm not complaining though and it's an easy fix with the Healing brush. I'm very pleased with the results, which ever one they pick to hang on the wall is going to look great and there's a lot to pick from.

Or you could seek out the old Minolta 100/2.8 SF (soft focus). I bought it for the 100/2.8 aspect, as I didn't need the SF, and with the SF off it's sharp and focuses very fast; I used it for horseracing ( I haven't tried it on the 99ii yet).
But the SF has, IIRC, three settings. And when I tried them they seemed rather good, I thought.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote djfoxy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2018 at 14:37
I hope this new episode will motivate you to do the jump to A99ii:

The A99m2 still the best contender DSLR
Minolta: XG1/ D7D/<beercan>135 f2.8/ 35-70 f4/ 35-105/ 70-210 f4/ 100-200 f4.5</beercan>/ 500 f8/ 17-35 f2.8-4/   50 f1.7/   50 & 100 f2.8 macro
Sony: A58/ A77ii / 28-75 f2.8 SAM/ DT 35 f1.8/ 85 f2.8
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