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Lcarus
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Topic: Can a Sony shooter ever go fully Pro?Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:18 |
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So this is linked from the discussion about Sony kit which is raging on here. Its throwing up some interesting points, but I'll get to mine quick.
Can a Sony shooter ever go Pro? I don't mean being semi pro, the occasional wedding or commission here and there. I mean earn a relatively risk free income from photography. The problems again are linked to supply and proliferation of the Alpha hardware. Example - The job is to shoot a wedding and one of your 900's goes down. I can't think of anywhere in the UK where I can rent an Alpha at short notice. I also only know 1 shooter near me who owns a 900 and rightly so there's no guarantee that he would lend it out. Conversely, if I was shooting Canikon I could walk into at least 2 local suppliers and rent kit on the day. I could also call upon many of my photographic friends and borrow their kit (again, Canikon). So I don't get the backup kit - I can't shoot the wedding. Myself and the customer would probably be insured but there would be unpleasant repercussions not least in terms of reputation. Of course, replace wedding with any form of pro shoot were you are contracted to deliver the goods. I adore my Alpha kit and I have lots and lots of it but can an Alpha shooter ever get into above or below the line photography without putting themselves at too much risk? BTW - I'm not planning on doing it anytime soon, I just think it's an interesting discussion and would love to hear your stories both positive and negative on this matter. |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:30 |
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If you'll promise to stick with the Alpha mount Lee, you can borrow my a900 should yours break :-). There we go, problem solved =D.
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:34 |
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You always need two bodies. If your one a900 goes down, keep running with your a700 or a550 or a850.
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Lcarus
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:40 |
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Hahaha! Thanks Rob.
Another problem is I often get asked for epic large prints - in fact I've just posted one 6ft photographic print across to a customer, so the megapixels of the 900 are needed. However, I don't want this to turn into a megapixel debate - I'm interested in the experiences of people who have gone, or are considering going pro. |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:44 |
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Personally, I think if someone were to become a pro at that level there would be more bodies in his stable than just one or two bodies and probably some duplication on certain lenses. If it were a relatively risk free income photographer, his livlihood is in his talent, and his equipment,and I am sure there would be very few, if any shortcomings.
So My answer is yes a Sony shooter could very easily become a full pro. |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:50 |
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A question, what do you mean by a "relatively risk free income"? As someone who is working to change a 40% income from photography into an 80%+ income, I can tell you there is no connection between a pro career and the equipment you shoot, unless you contract with an agency that insists you shoot what their other pros shoot. The "business" is FAR more important than the equipment. Customers don't ask to see you camera, they want to see your work.
With that out of the way, I would say that, with the exception of sports and wildlife careers, then certainly Sony will serve you quite well as a Pro. I do lots of sports with my a700 & a850, but see that there are still some hurdles in this market for Sony to deal with (although they do not seem inclined to address these needs). |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:50 |
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it depends on the kind of photography, but i must say no
the gaps in the alpha mount are huges. i wanna be a surf photographer (and who says surf says another action sport), how can i do it with the A mount?? Edited by A.W. - 08 July 2010 at 13:50 |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:55 |
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While I was serious about lending my a900, being more in keeping with your question, yes I have no doubt that a Sony user can go fully pro. As the others have pointed out already, a true pro would have several bodies and backup lenses (not to mention having all his gear insured should the worst happen). Even I take my a700 along to just about every paying gig I get. Sure it may not get used much (if at all sometimes) but it's nice to know it's there...just incase.
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:55 |
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" Customers don't ask to see you camera, they want to see your work. "
Oh absolutely, I'm aware of that. I guess my 'risk free' statement comes from the lack of support networks formal and informal with the Alpha mount. Again, I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I just want to garner opinion. |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:56 |
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Nope, Here in Romania defeinatelly no. Not even semipro :-) like me.
And renting is not the only aspect...there are others too : like reliability of the cameras,results, prices, etc... I have decided to jump the ship, still don't know where to go, probably Canon 5d II with a 7d as backup... In a matter of days I'll post all my gear FS. Too bad because all the lenses from Sony I belive are way better than other brands and I really, really love my 85 1.4...but all that matters to a client are the results not the gear I use and my personal preferences. |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 13:56 |
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What lens(es) do you actually need for surf photography? It's something I don't do, so I'm curious.
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 14:01 |
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fast long primes, 400/2.8, 500 or 600/4
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 14:01 |
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taz002dev,
I think you can get great results from any of the camera systems available nowadays. Heck, those old SRTs and Nikon Fs are still capable of great photographs. When you say that all that matters to a cliet are results, not the gear you use, where does an 85mm f1.4 actually fail in that regard? It's a good lens, but without context your statement is a little confusing. And you may want to consider Nikon if you're jumping ship. Better AF (arguably) than Canon and a great flash system. |
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Posted: 08 July 2010 at 14:04 |
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There is that forever available Sony mockup (just kidding) and the hard to find Minolta 600mm f4 APO. I always say get the tools that will let you do your job.
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