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Originally posted by trainerKEN trainerKEN wrote:

me, I would prefer that they keep DST all the time, so not necessarily getting rid of DST per se, but just don't be going back and forth.

That would be an improvement. My body still hasn't adjusted to the time change. I don't appreciate waking up an hour early or getting sleepy an hour early.

This idea would likely pass as a ballot initiative in my state. The health benefits are real.
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I prefer to keep it on standard time year round.
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Originally posted by jkp1 jkp1 wrote:

Easy to see if people have an active outdoor life or not. People who only sitting indoor, in artificial light or having siesta at noon and then working late dont want summertime.
But every outdoor people, no matter if its scouts, golfers, yachting people, hunters, football players and the list goes on and on really do gain benefit of the long evenings in the summer time.

I know why somebody in Finland doesn't matter, as they have light all around the clock in summertime, but everybody else

Granted, just making summertime the normal time all year round would be better / easier, yep
That would be a bad way to go around it. The health benefits are related to how close the clock is to natural time. Denmark is a bit to the east and I noticed the sun goes under in Denmark earlier then in Holland, so, maybe for you, it is doable, in Holland we should stick with wintertime.

The "gain" in the evening, is a loss in the morning. I am not a morning person, I like it when it is light when I wake up. That makes my day so much easier. Summertime all year would make things worse, especially as there are no benefits in winter and the benefits in summer are limited.

Oh, and people who want to do sports in the morning and not in the evening, they will also benefit with wintertime all year around!
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Originally posted by al al wrote:

I prefer to keep it on standard time year round.


Same here, I suppose it depends if you're a morning person or an evening person, I don't like having to wait another hour for the sun to rise. Let the day begin already!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2018 at 17:17
In the old days it was 12:00 noon when the sun was at its highest point.
Coordination between cities (spearheaded by the railroads) caused us to change to "time zones" which is already a compromise.

I believe 12:00 noon at the sun's highest point is also the healthest because then the day schedules is closest to your natural body rhythm. So for the Netherlands/Belgium I believe accepting what is now called "wintertime" is a better option than choosing "summertime".
Also if Netherlands/Belgium would choose "summertime" sun up would be 9:30 or later in the middle of the winter, which doesn't make much sense to me.
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Fully agree Pieter
 



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I'm also in favour of just keeping the winter-time as default. There have been experiments in Russia with summertime the whole year (and it turned out to be a bad idea in winter).
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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:



I believe 12:00 noon at the sun's highest point is also the healthest because then the day schedules is closest to your natural body rhythm. So for the Netherlands/Belgium I believe accepting what is now called "wintertime" is a better option than choosing "summertime".


That's fine if you can choose your working hours, but if you can't it matters!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 November 2018 at 09:14
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:


That's fine if you can choose your working hours, but if you can't it matters!


I don't understand your point Anthony. If your working hours conflict with a natural biorhythm no choice of clock-time will help you. So in my mind choosing a time which is most aligned with your natural biorythm and how your body reacts with the light/dark cycles is independent from your working hours.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote amflmnt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2018 at 00:52
Here in California have just passed to opt out of Daylight savings time and stick to standard time. When this will be implemented-who knows with big CA gov? Another look busy proposition. On another note, in a sleep study of blind individuals, the study has discovered two bio-clocks in operation, not just one:

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Originally posted by amflmnt amflmnt wrote:

Here in California have just passed to opt out of Daylight savings time and stick to standard time.

That's not what happened.

The new law simply replaces the old law that dictated the mandatory switch back and forth between Standard and Daylight Saving time. The new law makes it possible for the state legislature to put us on Standard Time all year or Daylight Saving Time all year, or change the timing of the ST/DST switch, or make no changes at all ... as long as the decision conforms with federal law.

I'm sure a huge number of Californians were unable to understand what they were actually voting for.
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