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love it, Pieter! contributions and posts!
so sorry that august 9 became an excruciating day for you.






ma Evertsen
1573 - 1649

wife of watergeus/sea beggar Evert Heindricxzen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geuzen
mother of admirals Johan and Cornelis -aka Keesje de Duvel -
(http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/cities-walcheren-netherlands_topic111137_page15.html)

statue on Boulevard Evertsen, initiated by -the late- maritime historian/-writer Doeke Roos, sculpted by our friend Jan Haas (2013).
   http://vanderkrogt.net/standbeelden/object.php?record=ZE13ai






This statue also represents the many Flushing women who played a major role in the rich maritime history of Vlissingen and who's husbands and sons were killed during the many naval battles.
Maaijken was a brave woman.


 



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Let me add another Flushing woman connected to the sea :

1 Fisherwoman


Groene Boulevard, Vlissingen; sculpture by Herman Bischop

I 'decoloured' the background in a faint attempt to make it less distracting ...

And here's another Flushing lady (TBH I'm not certain she is from Flushing):

2 It's a hard life, Flushing fisherwoman in folk costume


And 3 is a crowd:

3 Slow day for love and ice cream


These were all made during Flushing's "Oude Visserijdagen" with a7rii + Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS.

Last one:

4 Shanty choir Scharretjoe
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Would you believe that one of my ancestors (great-great-grandfather) lived in Flushing in the 19th century?
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stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and those portraits of the ladies are fab!

amazing job on the 1st one too! great BG!
(that flat! and those plastic fantastic 'decorations' on the arsenal!).
but our 'Euromast' is visible again. been covered for a long time. because of some kind of restoration. she looks bombarded btw. (gulls?)).

love the renewed version of the folk costume!
(pres. all of the fish ladies ("scharretjoeee") in Flushing were from Erremuu/Arnemuiden.
traditionally wore 2 headdresses, sometimes just 1. it's easy to recognize by the blue at the back).

do you have more?


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Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Would you believe that one of my ancestors (great-great-grandfather) lived in Flushing in the 19th century?

and fled?
mine is from Den Helder ;-)

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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Would you believe that one of my ancestors (great-great-grandfather) lived in Flushing in the 19th century?

and fled?
mine is from Den Helder ;-)


His sun fled and moved to Den Helder
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote darosa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2018 at 23:30
Thanks Ine!

No, I don't have more; it started raining, and imho the Oude Visserijdagen didn't have much more to offer (on Sunday when we were in Vlissingen); but I like the shots I made, and I learned a few things (about scharretjoeee and Erremuu fish ladies).
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at least, you blew me away!
(did I say flat? meant flats/apartment building ).
love the 1st 2 pics! but guess #3 is the jewel in terms of 'story telling'.
amazing you found a day like that. weather has been consistent for an entire tropical summer.
Koos reported what he had seen (not very much) in Vlissingen on saturday, so didn't bother.


so Fred has Zeeland blood and I don't?
(except for my own. doesn't get more Flushing than to be born at the Boulevard? -MHO! ;-) -).


about 'my' lady... lady Evertsen?
could give you the grand tour of her home if you'd like?
J. & K. bought her house this summer. (key exchange in december).
looks so much better inside than you'd expect from the outside. 17th century, golden age. a house named 'de Walcheren'.
been chasing the ship since (not easy!). after pics. it surfaced in Greenwich (National Maritime museum) and on the Veluwe (Kröller-Müller)!





Michiel + vismijn/fishmine, late 50s



the fish ladies used to be beside the Koopmanshaven/pilot's harbour. next to the fishmine. (it didn't survive).
where the little restaurant is, overlooking the pilot's harbour.
(one of the few improvements IMHO. a nice place for a drink on a terrace!).
in folk costumes indeed, selling fish, yelling: "scharretjoeee...". (aka scharretjes/common dab, a flatfish).
M. knows?!




1960


Vlissingen was once a practical city. all had a purpose and all made sense (!).




and from the other side, 1975



it's of all time



on their way...







1900



1905



Nieuwendijk, 1907



1908



1915



1964



1968


but not anymore!


the Erremuu folk costume differs a lot from the Walcheren costume. mostly because of a huge 'bovenmusse'/top headdress. (later folk costume of neighbouring village(s) Nieuw- & st. Joosland is almost identical, except for a slightly different headdress and a buckle, depicting the separation by water). the beuk, a piece of cloth that
serves as 'shirt', is more prude, less 'sexy', than elsewhere. none of the costumes have buttons.
the ladies are walking pincushions, everything held together by pins. and only a few hooks.
and it takes like forever to get dressed.

Erremuu tupmusse is blue at the back

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1890


the fishermen btw used to wear knit sweaters, with patterns typical for Arnemuiden.
and they wore golden earrings, to pay for their burial, should they drown at sea and wash ashore elsewhere.
(typical for all fishermen).
common on Walcheren are earrings depicting a snake, biting its own tail.
https://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/en/geheugen/view/paar-gouden-oorringen-walcheren-onbekend?coll=ngvn&maxperpage=36&page=1&query=oorringen+walcheren&identifier=NOMA01%3AHM2554

(met a lady in Erremuu folk costume in Veere, during a sail event, a couple of years back. 85 years of age.
thought she served as decoration, for some couleur locale, but she was just a visitor. 1 of the few fossils left that still dress that way on a daily base.
told she had visited Volendam once. "NEVER again!", she said, the gazillion Japanese tourists over there all came after her. hunting her down with their cameras. ).



Arnemuiden, Erremuu in dialect, is still THE fishing town on Walcheren. although no longer connected to the sea. inland even, belongs to the municipality of Middelburg. it's a rather closed community. and most of the Erremuu people either go by the name of van Belzen or de Nooijer.
(sometimes Meerman or de Ridder).
but they park their boats in Flushing.






wrong parking





the ARM44 (ARneMuiden) in 1980
-all pics courtesy of Zeeland library or Flushing archives btw-





1900



1905, Bellamy'park'!



1905

'Vlissingen- Arnemuiden fishing fleet'
but Vlissingen had fishing boats too!








1955, ARM36 being built in Vlissingen at the Zeehondenwerf
(but Arnemuiden had warfs as well)




1932



on board, 1924








1960


as a toddler I saw these every morning, coming from behind the Bomvrije tower and returning from sea in the evening, followed by a gazillion gulls.



1963

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Wow Ine, what a treat!
Thanks for opening the archives!
When I read about "Oude Visserijdagen" I was expecting to see scenes like these ...
You have made Erremuu come alive! Is Arnemuiden worthy of a visit?

TFS, also on behalf of Marjo
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Absolutely great. Made my morning far more interesting.
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(late responses!
very big SORRY!!! ordered the most glorious weather and been working on my car since).

Originally posted by oldguy oldguy wrote:

Absolutely great. Made my morning far more interesting.

are you serious? TY! (about the archives- every time I see what I've posted, I think 'OMG, what have I done?' ).

but really like time warps like these, a peek into the past.
I used to love this city... but now I love my memories.



Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Wow Ine, what a treat!
Thanks for opening the archives!
When I read about "Oude Visserijdagen" I was expecting to see scenes like these ...
You have made Erremuu come alive! Is Arnemuiden worthy of a visit?

TFS, also on behalf of Marjo

en? were you surprised?
but what Koos didn't mention -and I found in the mail-
http://www.stzk.nl/stzk/NL/index_stzk_nl.htm
see augustus / 'ongekend succes voor Oude visserijdagen'?
roundtrips? fishing boats?? cannon shooting???
(pics from saturday. I know you can recognize the Erremuu folk costume. ;-)).
bear in mind that many participants presumably were not there on sunday? but in church instead. ;-)


I don't remember when the fish ladies vanished. but throughout the 80s, we bought fish from Maatje (van Belzen ;-)) on a regular base. she charged us 2 guilders per kilogram sole. (believe that was a special price, for us. -we became vegetarians in the early 90s-. the small restaurant, named https://www.brasserieevertsen.nl/, was also built around 1989/1990? and we got an extra marina back then).

in the past there were still stores at the Nieuwendijk. my favourite pub was there, where friends & I met up in the weekends, and my daddy's candy store,
the camera store of Dert. (Dert was the darosa of his time. ;-) a gifted photographer, every iconic pic of Vlissingen was made by Dert).

the Erremuu fishing boats are still being parked in Vlissingen. in the Inner harbour, entrance halfway in between the Keersluis-bridge and the railway station.
if I recall correctly, they come in on fridays.


Erremuu (pronounched btw as Erremuuje), small as it may be, was world famous in Holland,
remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Z-PJSk33E
(WARNING! it may affect your health! )
-about the bells of Arnemuiden, and ships, forever lost at sea.-    

or an updated version in zeeuws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQTcyctiNHE
(Hrieps, btw, is also known as Grijpskerke ;-)).


Arnemuiden worthy of a visit? sure, if you like the utterly dull?
they do have a rather large, amazingly corny furniture store. and a 'main' street on a dike?
but I like the railway station.
(although we have seen way too much of it. every time we took the last train home, the Erremuu youngsters, intoxicated, would never leave the train before pulling every emergency brake on board.
meaning being stuck there for at least half an hour. notorious kids, after trouble, after fights, in for instance Middelburg, every weekend. (did I say inbred? wouldn't dare! :-) )).
it's a really closed community. at times infamous.
and pres. the only place on Walcheren where you can still spot ladies in folk costumes.   

it's been a long time since I was in Arnemuiden (although a visit was planned years ago. do regret I didn't visit the store of de Troye before it closed its doors -in 2016?-. the only place to buy your folk costume supplies from. because it's hip nowadays, the well-known 'Zeeland' daily apron fabric, we call it schortebont, is being made again. in GERMANY. ). I happen to like neighbouring Nieuw- & St. Joosland, originally 2 villages.
very rural, yet known for international and prestigious equine events.


having said all that (a lot ) - there is an historical warf
https://www.werfarnemuiden.nl/
and THEIR Oude visserij-dagen seem to be rather nice!

https://www.arnemuiden.org/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqVM7GHPTMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yhbRXE3nVI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gc-WIjNNDk


and having said all that- yesterday a construction worker died in Arnemuiden when he fell down and hit the concrete.
while building new holiday village 'Harbour Village'.
Arnemuiden is 'developing' as well.




1920



1930



1960


in my memory the passing fleet, with the nets hanging on both sides of each ship + hundreds of gulls, was a magnificent sight.



1965



1986, a bit busy off Vlissingen



1920





1935 - the city (! since 1574) of Arnemuiden


Edited by angora - 18 October 2018 at 09:59
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PS?
on that site
(https://www.arnemuiden.org/
header- 'a fishing town in heart & soul', showing the locks of Vlissingen. ;-))
I learned something new...

the famous bells of Arnemuiden are named Jezus and Maria / Jesus and Mary!


forgot to mention the old fisherman's house, 't uusje van Eine / little house of Henk, that can be visited
https://www.zeeuwseankers.nl/verhaal/vissershuisje-in-arnemuiden
on that site they mention that the Erremuu fish people used to be rather poor, which was even written on the sails of their boats: ARM! (arm is dutch for poor). ;-)


and interesting?
an astronomical tide clock on the tower of the church. made in 1589 and unique in Europe (just quoting).
the tide clock once showed the tides of Arnemuiden, now shows the high & low tides in Vlissingen.
Vlissingen has a tide clock as well. above the door of the dutch pilot society.

https://www.zeeuwseankers.nl/verhaal/astronomische-getijdenklok-in-arnemuiden
http://pcvdklis.home.xs4all.nl/zonnehove/klok/arnemuiden.htm
https://www.klokkenbouwen.nl/index.php/31-laatste-nieuws-algemeen/41-replica-getijenklok-arnemuiden
https://www.arnemuiden.org/nieuws/als-de-klok-van-arnemuiden



on meneer van Damme's site http://www.stzk.nl/stzk/NL/index_stzk_nl.htm I saw they demonstrate more interesting crafts on visserijdagen and folkloric markets (than they obv. did in Vlissingen), like 'heften snijden', cutting paeremessen aka paardenmessen / horses knives.
since the 19th century part of the male folk costume.
and once essential for every farmer. for everything one would use a pocket knife for, but crucial to cut the ropes, should your horses + wagon, plough or whatever end up in some ditch.

https://www.zeeuwseankers.nl/verhaal/het-paeremes
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeuws_mes







usually made of buxus wood. sometimes pear wood. often customized.
a real paeremes has to rattle when you shake it, contains a 'zieltje' / a 'little soul'. a small ball cut out (from the outside) inside the knife.





a paeremes in your pocket


(and this is mine)






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