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    Posted: 16 February 2017 at 16:57
Recently I have pretty much turned into a travel photographer! I basically travel with 3 main lenses for my A7rII - CV15, FE35/2.8 and om 16mm/3.5 fisheye. I also carry a nex7 with 16-50mm for IR photography which I eventually plan to upgrade to FF.
(I also own a bunch of lenses like EF40mm/2.8, om 21mm/3.5 etc)

But my main issue is I find myself changing between CV15 and FE35 quite a lot! Its annoying because it takes a little time (sometimes problematic) and I have come back with many images with dust spots.

The way I see it, pros and cons…

Current set up:
+ Small lenses
+ 1 stop more light at 35mm
+ going by reviews at least 2 stops more sharpness at 35mm
+ CV15 sharper at wide end
+ CV15 produces amazing sunstars even wide open! (I absolutely love these to the point I have even consider replacing FE35 with CV35/1.7 just for Voigt sunstar rendering but that's another story)
- both CV15 and FE35 are not good for IR (produces hotspots)
- Carry more lenses albeit being small and many lens swaps
- Manual at wide end
- no coverage between 15mm and 35mm though I don’t particularly miss this.

new set up (FE16-35mm only)
+ carry one lens for walk around instead of two
+ gives coverage between 16mm and 35mm
+ more contrasty at wide end compared to CV15
+ good for IR photography
+ 5-axis IBIS and AF at both ends (not a priority tbh but it is a plus)
- large, large, large!
- Not good (or as good as CV) at sunstars?
- not as sharp at both ends

Well it'd be nice to have both but I can't... Just looking for some opinions.
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Well it'd be nice to have both but I can't...

Sure you can. ;)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote al Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2017 at 05:23
How about a second A7rII? Then you'll have no need to change lens.
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I can't have both unfortunately. The whole premise is that I don't like changing lenses, so even if I were to afford both I wouldn't change lenses. Alternatively I might dislike the size of the 16-35 lens and not carry it.

Now I think about it once I have bought a lens I don't obsess about its sharpness so much.

I already carry two bodies, carrying a 3rd huge body won't me nice.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ricardovaste Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2017 at 09:47
Try a trip with no choice - take 1 lens.

You might enjoy it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2017 at 11:56
I have done a trip with just FE35 in the past (when e-mount had just 3 lenses its not like I had choice ). Was quite nice not having to change lenses or worry about other things (or carry my camera bag for that matter).

If I was doing it again may be I'd take CV15??

Perhaps I should get FE16-35 and use it as my only lens
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Post Options Post Options   Quote macbeth79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2017 at 14:08
I have the Sony 16-35 pretty much since it came out and love it. I bought it with travel in mind and after several trips over the past 2 1/2 years, my last vacation set up was: a7 with 16-35, a6300 as a back up with a 55-210 (barely used), and a RX100 IV in my pocket. 90% of my shots were with the 16-35 and I always had the RX100 IV in my pocket just in case I needed something longer. I'm not sure if it's just my copy, but the 16-35 is very sharp on my a7 and the OSS works great. I even took some shots at 1/10s inside a museum and a church where flash wasn't allowed and they were sharp.
If you really want the sunstars, why not consider a filter?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2017 at 14:34
Originally posted by macbeth79 macbeth79 wrote:

I have the Sony 16-35 pretty much since it came out and love it. I bought it with travel in mind and after several trips over the past 2 1/2 years, my last vacation set up was: a7 with 16-35, a6300 as a back up with a 55-210 (barely used), and a RX100 IV in my pocket. 90% of my shots were with the 16-35 and I always had the RX100 IV in my pocket just in case I needed something longer. I'm not sure if it's just my copy, but the 16-35 is very sharp on my a7 and the OSS works great. I even took some shots at 1/10s inside a museum and a church where flash wasn't allowed and they were sharp.
If you really want the sunstars, why not consider a filter?


Do you find it particularly big at all especially for travel?

Well I don't know what filter I'd use to start with, and my CV15 does a very good job of it without any filter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote macbeth79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2017 at 14:48
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Do you find it particularly big at all especially for travel?
Well I don't know what filter I'd use to start with, and my CV15 does a very good job of it without any filter.


I don't find it particularly big or heavy for travel and it definitely takes up less space than 2 separate lenses.
Try this for filters: star filters
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Post Options Post Options   Quote onsplekkie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2017 at 14:48
Just wondering; Have you tried the camera option Clear Image Zoom.
This will make your CV15 a zoom lens up to 30mm ( in APS-C mode 45mm) without to much IQ loss.
This works fine on my A7s 12 MP. Your A7R2 42MP would work wonders
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Originally posted by macbeth79 macbeth79 wrote:


I don't find it particularly big or heavy for travel and it definitely takes up less space than 2 separate lenses.
Try this for filters: star filters


Well I carry one in my pocket
Now the question is will 16-35mm fit in my cargo trouser pocket

Interesting, didn't know such a filter existed. Wonder how well it'll work shooting into the sun or if it'll be flare galore.
Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

Just wondering; Have you tried the camera option Clear Image Zoom.
This will make your CV15 a zoom lens up to 30mm ( in APS-C mode 45mm) without to much IQ loss.
This works fine on my A7s 12 MP. Your A7R2 42MP would work wonders


Kinda... that feature is only available in jpg. I mostly shoot in RAW. But definitely worth noting in a pinch.
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:


Well I carry one in my pocket
Now the question is will 16-35mm fit in my cargo trouser pocket


If you have the 16-35 you don't need to carry another one in your pocket, and the filter would definitely fit in there if you needed to carry one.
I can post some pics, but maybe later tonight as I can't access photobucket at work. Or send you some directly via email if you want to send me a private message.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 February 2017 at 08:08
Sorry! What is CV15?
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