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    Posted: 19 May 2017 at 03:16
What difference if any would you expect or have you found in terms of likelihood of camera shake when hand holding these two similar but different E-mount bodies?

My limited experience with other DSLRs is the more pixels that are crowded on a sensor, the more likelihood of running into problems with camera shake at slow shutter speeds in low light. Do you also find this?

If true that might be a good reason to keep and continue using the A7II for photojournalism-type photography, as well as the A7RII that I am so far using almost exclusively for video.

It is great to be able to use the same lenses and batteries and not have to learn a different layout, but hard to justify keeping two bodies if the same tasks can be done with one. Just not sure if in the case of run and gun photography this is true or not?

I had thought that I could resolve this dilemma by bringing down the image size in the A7RII from 42MP to 18MP for photojournalism type photography and bumping it back up to 42MP when using a tripod. But just found out that the A7RII´s image size can only be reduced to 18MP in jpeg format but not in RAW that I find quite necessary for editing. So that is not a solution.

So maybe two really is better than one??
 



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Originally posted by windhorse windhorse wrote:

My limited experience with other DSLRs is the more pixels that are crowded on a sensor, the more likelihood of running into problems with camera shake at slow shutter speeds in low light.

Yes ... but it only makes a difference if you actually magnify those smaller pixels on the higher-res sensor to produce a larger final image. If you view both images from both cameras at the same size, there is no difference in camera shake.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2017 at 06:52
What syber said ^
You can easily downsize and export 24mp or 18mp from A7RII.

In any case I haven't found it any harder (or easier) to handhold A7RII than A7 or A99.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2017 at 08:36
thanks for the useful response: would you say there is anything else worth considering that the A7II can do but the A7RII cannot... apart from preserve one´s sanity since it is simpler (with less options to consider)*

* just now I am reviewing some video clips filmed in super35 mode on the A7RII and trying to figure out if I ought to change the color profiles I am using or not - that was easy to figure out with the A900 (no video!)



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Originally posted by windhorse windhorse wrote:

thanks for the useful response: would you say there is anything else worth considering that the A7II can do but the A7RII cannot?


nope, anything the A7ii can do, the A7Rii does better
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You should try this, it'll answer every one of your questions. Pay up front $32 with a 2 week return policy if you don't find it useful. You will though.

http://friedmanarchives.com/A7r2/index.htm

And about your last question in the OP, with photo journalism isn't 2 always better than 1? I'd think it'd be a requirement.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2017 at 14:39
Thanks Rob for the pointer. I was just thinking that I need to find a guide like this one for the A7RII, even though I am quite comfortable with the A7II. Does he give specific recommendations on picture profiles?

A Kindle version of the book you mention also seems to be available here at a lower price with 15 positive customer reviews - though not sure if it is the same one?

The photography work I mention higher up in this thread is more photojournalism-style than real photojournalism that is more demanding than what I do.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2017 at 17:26
Here's another link to the sample pages he's provided out of the book, about 50 pages randomly selected (with the full index) to seal the deal. He has recommendations for every setting on the camera, what works, what doesn't and why it doesn't and then he'll tell you his personal choices and why.

http://friedmanarchives.com/A7r2/book_page_samples.htm

And yeah, the Kindle version is the same. If you d/l from his site you'll get a .pdf file and then 2 other formats (can't recall them, MOB and something else?) for use with Smartphones/iPhones.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2017 at 05:20
Bought the Kindle version of the book that is well worth the read and does give good explanations about what adjusting the different picture profile settings do - though no recipes since as he says every need is different.
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