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    Posted: 13 October 2013 at 18:34
hi guys! regarding the minolta BIG beer can 75-300 f4.5-f5.6


How many hoods were made? im looking at Ebay and i see 3 types of hoods.

1st type(Cat ears type with clip on)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-Minolta-Maxxum-AF-Zoom-75-300mm-f-4-5-6-Big-Beercan-Lens-Sony-Alpha-Hood-/181235786839



2nd type (no clip on and no cat ears)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231058995660?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


3rd type(just the clip on and no cat ears)
http://www.lowcost4dslr.com/tests/autofocus-lenses/28-minolta-af-75-300-f45-56-big-beercan-review

http://kurtmunger.com/75300bigbeercanid59.html



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the bottom link. you need to scroll through half the page to see both beer can and big beer can.
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http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/big-beercan-hood_topic62630.html
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So any idea guys? i see so many 75-300 f4.5-5.6 hoods. Dont know which is the original hood for the big beer can now.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 October 2013 at 18:50
Easy, the clip-on without the ears.
No.1 somebody made a modification
No.2 is for another 75-300, a non Beercan era.
No.3 is the right one, as you can see in the Kurt Munger page you linked to.

eBay is a lousy source of information......
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 October 2013 at 18:53
Oh, kurt munger links to the manual, it also says clip-on hood.
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Weird thing there though is that he claims plastic hood, mine's metal with felt covering on the inside.
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If you have a look at the best reference site for minolta/sony lens specs, mhohner, you will find that the hood is: Hood mount clip-on, Hood shape round, Hood part number 6561-810. A petal hood ("ears") would not be of much use as the front of the lens rotates when focussing.

Edit: As with early "beercans", early "big beercans" had a metal hood.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tezzating Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2013 at 05:02
#1 the right one (metal) with some petals hacked onto it.. "custom"
#2 from the 75-300 RS, plastic
#3 the right one

BBC hoods will be metal, with two pinch tabs, and say "A 75-300/4.5-5.6 JAPAN" and "MINOLTA" on them.

The plastic ones suit RS 75-300 onward, you can even fit it to a kit 18-55 :P
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Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Weird thing there though is that he claims plastic hood, mine's metal with felt covering on the inside.


The 70-210/4 originally came with a metal hood (the clip on bit is plastic), however, older versions came with an entirely plastic lens hood. The metal hood is much less common.

I assume the 75-300mm was the same, it looks like pretty much the same lens hood as the 70-210.
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I have also always heard that the hood design for the BC and BBC changed mid-course from metal to plastic, so as long as the markings are correct, either one should be fine.
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The original Beercan hood ( and BBC) were metal. Most of these came with lenses with serial no's that had 7 digits. later lenses with Serial no' with 8 digits all had the plastic version.

The later plastic one has a slightly different shape at the base close to where the clip is but both fit.

My guess is that they were changed due to some scratching of the lens barrels when reversed for transport. I had 2 beercans and 1 big beercan with those metal shades and they DID scratch the barrels when reversed.
See 70-210 here with metal shade and try noticing the scratches


Both the A 70-210/4 and A 75-300/4,5-5,6 shades are the same. Totally interchangeable between the 2 lenses ( same length, diameter etc). Only the markings are different.

By the way, the shade for the MD 70/210 F4 ( manual focus) was the same (metal) and also fits and since this MD lens is the ancestor to the beercan. EDIT: It does not fit Sorry

If you want an original i think i have spares of MD 70-210 in metal / A70-210 new in box ( plastic) and A 75-300 new in box ( metal ). See pics here

If interested,PM me and we can discuss. I am in Canada






Edited by michelb - 15 October 2013 at 02:59
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ahhhh thank you guys! so how do i know if its metal hood? hmmm. current ones i have feel like its plastic. oh well.



thx for the info guys! XD!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote michelb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2013 at 17:09
The shape of the plastic one is a little conical where as the metal one is pure tubular in shape. The above pics do show the difference i think
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Ahoy!

If you get stuck, go to evilBay and type in 'MATIN xx MM lens hood' (xx = filter thread size of your lens). It's arguably the best after-market reversible hood you can get that's triple threaded. You screw the metal adapter ring onto the lens filter thread and on the outside is the twist lock grooves for the lens hood which can also be reversed for storage just like a regular hood (unless it's a screw-in type as for the Sigma AF 105mm F/2.8 1:1 EX or EX DG Macro lenses. On the inside of the adapter ring is the screw threads to take filters, so it can both accept filters and you can reverse fit the hood PLUS you can still put the lens cap back on. Job done!

They come from South Korea, but worth checking out just in case you strike out finding a genuine hood.

Happy hunting.
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so the 75-300 shown above is the metal version?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote michelb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2013 at 02:57
Yes the 75-300 above is the metal version

Please also note the MD 70-210 F4 shade does not fit either of the beercans. Just tried and the lip on the lenses are not quite the same so it does not go in. Sorry if i mislead anyone on this.
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