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Post Options Post Options   Quote jerome Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 March 2010 at 21:28
The anti-aliasing is not it. The Leica is simply a better lens. It is 20 years younger and built without consideration for mirror flip space or price.

This being said, the Sony / Minolta 35mm f/1.4 will make very nice landscape pictures at f/5.6 on the A900. I don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference between this and what the M9 outputs in prints as large as one meter or more...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote common Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 March 2010 at 22:10
Just got this Lens and having a play in a bar at the weekend - some awesome bokeh! just need to work on the autofocus

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dennismullen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 March 2010 at 01:00
Originally posted by common common wrote:

Just got this Lens and having a play in a bar at the weekend - some awesome bokeh! just need to work on the autofocus


Very nice!

Edited by dennismullen - 23 March 2010 at 22:30
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Post Options Post Options   Quote common Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:05
@ 1.4 - still looks pretty sharp to me

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Post Options Post Options   Quote AlphaMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:44
I agree. My copy is sharp at 1.4.

That said, there is room for focusing errors at 1.4 and the slightly lower contrast can give the impression of softness to some.

The longer I have my 35/1.4G the more I love it. I have a very nice collection of glass, but I have to say that I like the 35/1.4 the most.

There is just "something" about it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dennismullen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2010 at 22:26
Originally posted by common common wrote:

@ 1.4 - still looks pretty sharp to me


Great shot! Nice 3D look.

Cheers,

Edited by dennismullen - 23 March 2010 at 22:29
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jcoffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2010 at 11:52
Quite a few people have mentioned the poor reviews on the 35/1.4G. I think it's worth mentioning that in most cases, the statements about how poor it is, simply aren't supported by the tests. For example, about a year ago, LensTip.com did reviews of both the Sony 35/1.4G and the Canon 35/1.4L. The conclusion on the Canon said:

Can the advantages of this lens compensate the disadvantages? To tell you the truth, the advantages are significant – a fantastic, sometimes even record-breaking picture quality and a lens barrel fit for the most demanding atmospheric conditions. Something no professional can ignore.

The conclusion on the Sony was rather a contrast:

Taking into account the results of this test, I am surprised that Sony continues to produce this lens. It would be perhaps better if the lens was buried and forgotten with the late Minolta company. A new lens should be designed - a simpler, smaller and cheaper instrument with 2/35 parameters, which would please the whole crowd of small and big sensors owners. Let’s hope it will happen soon and with this hope we can end for now. The further description of Sony 1.4/35 performance, taking into account its exuberant price, would be like kicking an underdog…

From those, you'd think the Sony must have done a lot worse across the board in their tests, right? Graphing their results shows just a bit different story though:



Based on this, I'd have a hard time saying the Canon was really any better than the Sony at all. Wide open (what you're really paying for) the Sony is minutely worse at the center, and minutely better at the edges. As you stop down, the Canon gets better at the edges, but the Sony gets a *lot* better at the center.

Having owned one of these for close to 20 years now, I how no trouble at all in saying that a typical objective test won't show its real strengths. Even if we look only at the objective tests, however, it's clearly a lot better lens than the comments about it would suggest.

To avoid just spouting nonsense, I'll throw in a shot from the lens in question. I guess, to be entirely honest, mine is *not* a 35/1.4G -- it's old enough that it predates the "G" designation.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote jerome Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2010 at 18:20
Originally posted by jcoffin jcoffin wrote:

Based on this, I'd have a hard time saying the Canon was really any better than the Sony at all.


It is not really possible to compare the two tests, because the 5D has a much lower resolution than the A900.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jcoffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2010 at 18:36
Originally posted by jerome jerome wrote:

It is not really possible to compare the two tests, because the 5D has a much lower resolution than the A900.


To justify the comments, the Sony lens should be so much worse that the difference in sensor resolution would be irrelevant. A higher resolution sensor can't produce a higher resolution image unless the lens resolves the detail to do so.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jerome Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2010 at 22:48
Indeed, the difference in comments does not appear to be justified by the difference in performance. But the difference in maximum center resolution around f/5.6 between the two lenses most probably essentially comes from the difference in sensor resolution.

This being said, I am a bit surprised that they found such a low edge resolution for the 35G. I will see how mine performs.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote lamsamson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2010 at 06:02
This lens is amazing... I am planning to sell all of my zooms and this is one of my KEEP's in my list
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jcoffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2010 at 16:43
Originally posted by andrew_broadfoot andrew_broadfoot wrote:

If the C***n lens slightly edges out ours then by all means sell off all of your gear and by it. I won't lose any sleep over it. I am happy with mine and that is why "I love the 35/f1.4G"!


You seem to have misunderstood my point. A number of people in the thread had said how much they liked the lens, but mentioned how poorly it had been rated in many reviews.

They seemed (at least to me) to be contrasting its objective/measurable performance with the aesthetics of the result (i.e., that it was subjectively great, but objectively fairly poor).

While I agree that it's great subjectively, I disagree with the notion that objectively it's poor -- quite the contrary, subjectively it's great and objectively it's pretty darned good too, but the comments in some reviews are misleading (at best).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote micktravis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2010 at 14:36
I purchased this lens about a year ago despite some negative reviews (the specifics of which are discussed earlier in this thread) and had a really rough time with it. Softer than was really useful up to about f/4.0, horrible CA, uncontrollable flares, and a tendency to overexpose. If anything I thought the negative reviews were too kind.

So I returned it. But after getting the A850 I decided I needed this focal length/aperture combo and started looking around for a Minolta version, all the while reading the reviews. And after a while I decided that maybe my lens had just been a really bad copy. I bought it a second time and it is the finest lens I've ever owned. Sharp almost all the way to wide open, amazing color and depth, buttery bokeh. A completely different animal.

My only complaints would be flare control is not as good as I would like (although much better than my defective copy) and wide open there is a tendency to vignette (but it's easily fixable.)

A magical lens.

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