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Originally posted by ricardovaste ricardovaste wrote:

Originally posted by Hobgoblin Hobgoblin wrote:

Originally posted by ricardovaste ricardovaste wrote:

As it stands this is just another mirrorless fail as far as I'm concered. Unless I'm missing something obvious, or fundamental... it's just a small k-mount body without a mirror or viewfinder. If so, this just doesn't do anything for me. And there are a LOT of choices in the mirrorless market today, so you have to do something that stands out, any simply removing the mirror on an old film mount isn't anything special, it's just strange. Boom.


But you can mount any K mount lens on it and it will autofocus and perform correctly without the use of an adaptor as is needed to use a-mount lenses on the nex


If that is the only point I'm missing, then it's still a waste to me. NEX can mount almost any lens. This is basically an SLT without a viewfinder... weird.


I think I agree and disagree at the same time!

I think the ability to mount legacy lenses is not to be dismissed (it has caused some angst amongst Sony users like us over what is going to happen with E and A mount etc etc). However, I also agree that the camera as it stands, although on a personal level cosmetically appealing, doesn't really do anything a low end K-mount DSLR couldn't. I honestly think if they wante dto use K mount, they should have had a socking great mount on a much smaller camera, maybe with an EVF.

But it's interesting and quirky, which I like, and I always hear good things about Pentax prime lenses. They also make a small number of very small "pancakey" lenses (e.g. 40, 70 etc) that will suit a smaller body. I guess they are trying to capitalise on the "fashion" for mirrorless, whilst producing a new lower end smaller body - maybe we should think of it as a shrunken K-r rather than an ENX-5 competitor?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Serdar A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 15:19
My sentiments are exactly the same as Richards. Take and A55, remove the mirror, and add CD AF and you end up with a lot more camera than this Pentax at a similar sized package.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dryce Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 15:44
It looks a bit desperate by Pentax IMO.

They messed up by investing the money in the Q family. Realised their mistake and went down the APS-C mirrorless route with no money or ideas left except to strip back a DSLR and provide a rather colourful clunky looking case.

This might work if it was significantly cheaper than a DSLR. But it's not.

So unless it has some hidden goodness we're left with a chunky over priced mirrorless that has good Pentax K compatibility and in-body anti-shake but not a lot else.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote revdocjim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 16:43
The Q is definitely odd, but at least in the domestic market I think it will do alright. (as I lovingly stare at my Pentax Auto 110 sitting on the shelf)

As for this new camera, I'm reminded of the Panasonic G-1. It had lots of faults but it was a first and it definitely led to much better stuff. If Pentax continues to refine this thing and add more pancakes it just might work. I like the idea of making the body thinner and having just the mount extend a bit more.

Then again, the mirrorless market has matured incredibly in a short period and the stakes are considerably higher than they were when the G-1 came out. Hang in there Pentax!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 17:01
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Like it in white, but it ain't a market changer.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tetraodon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 17:42
Originally posted by Bob J Bob J wrote:

They also seem to be trying to create a new niche - Compact system cameras that are not very compact..


Spot on Not very compact, but nevertheless missing a viewfinder and an articulated display.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 18:11
Originally posted by nigelbrooks nigelbrooks wrote:

It isn't pretty, but I do like the idea of using K-mount lenses without adaptors as it makes carrying a back-up much simpler.
How is that simpler than carrying a NEX 3/5 and E-A adapter?
Those you can actually carry more versatile as the camera is smaller and the adapter can go to different pocket when needed.
Same goes for Nikon 1 and adapter (although crop factor makes is less useful as backup).

I like the idea but a mirrorless+adapter is smaller and a entry level DSLR (or SLT) is cheaper.
So it is not good compared to offers by other brands.
On the other hand it fit's well in the pentax world.
The Q has to strong crop to use K lenses effectively and also Pentax has some extremely compact primes in K-Mount.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote subcat001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 18:32
I don't get it..................

Don't get me wrong I actually quite like the styling and can see value in using an existing mount on a mirror less camera, but who are they trying to sell this camera too?

It's not what you call compact, infact it's SLR sized so offers no advantage in form factor over a DSLR. It's hardly a entry level alternative either at current prices. A K5 isn't significantly more, and a KR is over a third less. For the prosumer, or as a back up camera, the exclusion of an EVF is almost inexcusable. Had Pentax launched this camera as a low cost entry into K mount I could see the value in the concept.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sublimity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 February 2012 at 22:44
I think Pentax has succeeded in making me appreciate how small their Q system is.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote revdocjim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 February 2012 at 14:38
Just visited the Pentax forum and looked through a thread about this camera and initial opinions. OUCH! 13 pages and mostly negative! Oh boy..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2manycamera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 February 2012 at 15:18
To use a baseball analogy, Pentax fans were expecting a home run, hoping for a grand slam. What they got was a base hit. It's going to be who follows in the line-up that will determine how well Pentax will score in this inning.

Tortured analogies aside, where this camera fall down is the lack of either a good EV, or a tilting screen. Either of which would make it usable with anything more than pancake sized lenses. As it is, it would be limited to tripod only for my uses, as I could not hold it in front of my face with a "normal" sized zoom.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote PhotoTraveler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2012 at 04:28
Worst of both worlds!

So they made a camera with the AF speed draw backs (primary drawback) of a mirrorless camera.
And of course they made a Mirrorless Camera with all the bulk of an SLR.

Plus to top it off they beat it with an ugly stick for good measure.

Something is wrong in Pentax for sure. I think the engineers there need a hug or something, I don't think they are feeling all right.

Am I the only one who keeps thinking Pentax would be the one to come out with some new mirrorless system that would be APS or bigger, in a beautiful rugged package and a line of beautifully constructed lenses. Like a poor mans Leica M system.    I've had that vision for them for years, and yet it keeps going all wrong. But in the mean time Fuji keeps rolling out stuff that looks almost exactly like what I have expected Pentax to create.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sublimity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2012 at 20:53
Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

... I've had that vision for them for years, and yet it keeps going all wrong. But in the mean time Fuji keeps rolling out stuff that looks almost exactly like what I have expected Pentax to create.


I agree. Both Pentax and Fuji seemed like perfect underdogs to bring forth new niche innovations, except former was just too intent on recycling working formulas without a vision. Fuji is making a digital comeback on the other hand, the only really successful manufacturer to milk the sales potential of retro rangefinder designs.

Pentax will continue to remain a foil for success. Hopefully Ricoh puts it on the right track.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Eclipse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2012 at 18:23
As someone who still uses the beautiful Pentax K1000 (and still uses it with it's excellent 50mm kit lens) I'm afraid I have to agree that this offering is unbelieveably ugly by comparison......................

My pet K1000 has a really good OVF too.
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