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    Posted: 12 September 2017 at 23:37
I liked how this dead branch near my home dried with one side of the leaf black and one side white so I asked my daughter if she'd model for me. She came up with the hair and makeup.

Turns out the green background popped a lot more than I wanted it to. :( The shade didn't do me any favors either. I'll probably do some cropping to get closer to what my vision was. Full body shot only included so you can see my daughter's art.

This is my first time sharing my work so I'm sorry if I messed it up. Also, be gentle. :)






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I was aiming for a little more B&W feel than I got...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MichelvA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2017 at 07:22
I only see B instead of B&W ..
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Thank you @MichelvA. I bookmarked that post.

The images ARE color. What I was trying to do was emulate the stark feel of B&W. To my eyes the leaves really popped but I couldn't capture it in the images the way I wanted.
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Aha, now i can see the images. I like the work, there is always room for improvement but it seems you see where those are (background, shades) - so you're on the right track. What i also saw is a changing white balance. #3 seems too blue, the last a tad too yellow. Maybe it was caused by the sunlight. Also, in #3 the model seems to look away with her left eye. I think #3 shows a very good pose and with a little more attention to light and direction of the eyes can make it a great shot. Another tip is to keep one line of space between the photo's. TFS ktrucke .
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I will add the blank line. I was playing with the white balance. Interestingly the too blue #3 was auto white balance.

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I appreciate the input.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote 4paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2017 at 01:34
ktrucke you said "I was aiming for a little more B&W feel than I got.." so I'm guessing you don't want it monochrome, you want not much color while shooting color ... if that's what you were going for, number 3 (the bluish one) definitely works, crop a 4x5 portrait orientation around her face and you're done!

I don't know what software you have, you can do a monochrome B&W conversion, or you can paint the green in the background with Desaturate. If I were doing it I would make a B&W conversion, then use layers with the color version on top with an Alpha channel, and erase the green parts.

With number 1, I would make the white balance more blue to make her skin less colorful, and a 4x5 portrait crop to remove her hands, which although they make an interesting pose, you are correct that the background is not as interesting as the leaves. If you want to spend time with software you could copy leaves from other pictures (make sure they are the same white balance / color !) and paste them into the holes in the leaves above her hands.

Number 2 isn't as good because of a lack of leaves around her head and the art on her neck is cut off. I looks like 1 is more wide angle and slightly above eye level, and 2 is more telephoto and at eye level, I don't have a preference but it is a slightly different look which a portrait photog may have an opinion on.

A little flash (popup flash with diffusion paper or translucent plastic is perfect for it) would put a little catchlight in her eyes, which is needed I think.

Edit/addendum: Sony camera AWB is usually too blue.

I'm a fan of the leg art

You know what you're doing so post more of it!


Edited by 4paul - 15 September 2017 at 01:45
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Thank you for your kind words. The third is closest to my vision. I am definitely going for an extreme crop or two for my personal use. I wasn't sure the etiquette of posting edited images.

I tried desaturating the green and the leaves blended in too much. Could be my lack of editing skill.

Great idea on the flash. I've been taking a lot of photos of her lately and thought the same thing of another batch. :( Perhaps I'll get brave and post one or two of those as well.
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