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    Posted: 13 September 2018 at 19:11
Wow! I just found out that even though it is not possible to shoot stills in "Movie" mode, it is possible to shoot both stills and video in "M" mode.

To do this on my A7RII I have just assigned movie recording start/stop to C1 button (easier to reach than red movie button) and as usual use the main shutter release for stills.

Reading about this here I believe the only change to my normal way of shooting stills I have to make is to get the right framing for 4K video frame size has to be set to 16:9 (reducing still image size from 42 to 36MP) BUT RAW files of the same image can still be processed as 3:2 in Adobe Camera Raw.

What is not to love about this splendid option   

My only doubt is that it seems to good to be true! So would really like to know if anyone else has tried shooting 4K video in "M" mode instead of "Movie" mode and found any loss of functionality or any other issues not mentioned in the blog that I link to in this post?
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Photosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2018 at 19:39
Set camera menu for MOVIE 'always on' option, and you can record video from any stills mode.
Not dependent upon M (manual?) mode.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2018 at 19:56
Thanks Photosopher, good to know!

Though a bit strange (and exasperating) that stills cannot be captured in "Movie" mode? What would be the reason for that?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2018 at 22:44
Yep that makes sense, but if that was the issue wouldn't it be possible to just block recording video and stills simultaneously in "Movie" mode, leaving the option to snap a still in between recording video clips, as can be done in other modes, instead of completely deactivating the shutter button in movie mode?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2018 at 23:37
Erk, maybe not so simple as I thought, since key video functions like audio recording level settings and other useful ones like clear zoom seem to be only accessible in movie mode and not in M mode, even focus magnifier is greyed out, right?
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2018 at 23:51
I had at least one camera that allowed taking stills while recording video. Using it basically ruined the video as the still was repeated for however many video frames required.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 02:11
I am thinking to shoot both stills and video with the same camera the best strategy may be to set up for stills in "M" or (A,S etc) mode, video in "Movie" mode, then flip the mode button from "Movie" to "M" mode or vice versa before pressing the shutter to grab a still or custom button to record video, which is probably what Sony expects me to do anyway?

To do this requires two operations (switch mode, press shutter/video button) before recording, but it is probably less time and effort than having to change from one body set up for stills to another body set up for video, which is the only other alternative I can think of to be able to do both more or less at the same time?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Photosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 02:56
Originally posted by windhorse windhorse wrote:



Though a bit strange (and exasperating) that stills cannot be captured in "Movie" mode? What would be the reason for that?


It can. And the motor drive is fast at 24 or 30 frames per second at 8.5 megapixel. Or you could get even faster motor drive at 60 or 120 frames per second at 2 megapixel.

Photoshop will play them back under 'Motion' workspace at any frame rate you want, giving enough time to screen capture or save as jpg.

Just depends on how you look at it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkp1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 09:12
I have been heavily shooting video outside the movie-mode setting, from A77 going forward. Gives some advantages, hereby especially when using remote display, fx. and iPad.

This is the really peculiar thing about Sony software in-camera. Many functions and tools are not the same or not available in different settings or conditions, which makes it very difficult to judge or chose.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote windhorse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2018 at 15:26
Sometimes technology advances so fast it is hard to keep up, and it may be too costly or not profitable enough to go back and fix up old stuff like this?

However one of the reasons I have stuck with Sony so far was the release some time ago of firmware update for my former camera an A7II that was most welcome.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2018 at 11:54
Here's a workaround for shooting stills while videoing, but it does require the addition of a Sony QX100.

http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/making-use-of-a-qx100_topic133025_post1556766.html#1556766
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 September 2018 at 16:52
Originally posted by jkp1 jkp1 wrote:

I have been heavily shooting video outside the movie-mode setting, from A77 going forward.

What does it mean to shoot video outside of the movie-mode setting with the A77?
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