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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2012 at 23:56
glassofwater, there is no problem with your English - the problem is understanding how the thing you described could happen.

Originally posted by glassesofwater glassesofwater wrote:

The metal part with the bright orange dot was kind of loose, but it wasn't loose enough to fit the aperture operating ring back into it. In fact, it was loose only at it's upper half. It made me wonder why it came out so easily and question this camera's past, since I got it used. That's why I am worried.

Are you saying that the aperture ring (we can call it that) protruded slightly around the edge of the mount after the accident? Or that it came out completely?

One guess is that the previous owner did something to the camera and left some of those internal parts in an abnormal state. How long have you had the camera? Are you sure it was working correctly before the accident occurred - I mean, was the aperture control really doing its job?

Another guess is that everything was originally fine. Then you dropped the camera and the screws holding the mount in place really did pull out from the body, allowing things inside to flop around. It's possible that the screw threads are now stripped. Are those screws really holding strong now, or can you pull the mount away from the camera slightly?
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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

glassofwater, there is no problem with your English - the problem is understanding how the thing you described could happen.

Originally posted by glassesofwater glassesofwater wrote:

The metal part with the bright orange dot was kind of loose, but it wasn't loose enough to fit the aperture operating ring back into it. In fact, it was loose only at it's upper half. It made me wonder why it came out so easily and question this camera's past, since I got it used. That's why I am worried.

Are you saying that the aperture ring (we can call it that) protruded slightly around the edge of the mount after the accident? Or that it came out completely?


It came out COMPLETELY. I had to unscrew the mount to put it back into place.

One guess is that the previous owner did something to the camera and left some of those internal parts in an abnormal state. How long have you had the camera? Are you sure it was working correctly before the accident occurred - I mean, was the aperture control really doing its job?


Yes, it was. I can assure that because I used DOF preview lots of times before.

Another guess is that everything was originally fine. Then you dropped the camera and the screws holding the mount in place really did pull out from the body, allowing things inside to flop around. It's possible that the screw threads are now stripped. Are those screws really holding strong now, or can you pull the mount away from the camera slightly?


The mount is really tight to the body now - I made that sure when screwing it back.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote frankieg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2012 at 00:09
Regarding proficiency in the English language... You are more proficient than 90% of the English speakers.
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I would check whether the SSS works. usually it is the first thing to break on A700.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote glassesofwater Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2012 at 00:31
Originally posted by rovhazman rovhazman wrote:

I would check whether the SSS works. usually it is the first thing to break on A700.

I remembered all the "my a700's SSS broke" threads here at dyxum. How do I check this? The SSS bar at the viewfinder is working and the camera does that "usual" shake when turning off.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rovhazman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2012 at 00:37
Originally posted by glassesofwater glassesofwater wrote:

I remembered all the "my a700's SSS broke" threads here at dyxum. How do I check this? The SSS bar at the viewfinder is working and the camera does that "usual" shake when turning off.


The signs of broken SSS are the SSS bar in the viewfinder, the long turning on with strange noise (trying to initiate the SSS), no shake on turn off and shifted frame (compare to viewfinder).

In that case your camera seems to be fine.
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This is weird. I can only imagine that the mount must have flexed quite a distance from the rest of the body during the impact to allow the aperture ring to come out completely. Perhaps the screws were actually loose in the first place?

In answer to your original question, no this is not normal!! In fact, if I had been asked before your story appeared here, I would have said it was impossible. The miracle is that no permanent damage appears to have resulted and that you managed to put it back together again -- with a 'dagger' ! I guess you mean knife, but that is no less remarkable. Well done.

Let's hope the camera continues to work as it should.
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Hi glassesofwater,

I had a similar thing happen to me - I had a beercan on my 7D and dropped it on the street, and the mounting flange on the camera was pulled off with the lens. The screws were stripped.

I was able to screw the mount back on the camera and the screws "felt" tight, but I did not feel confident that the mount would be strong. I have no idea how the aperture ring came out in your case, but I think that the threads in your camera (at least the ones on the upper half) were damaged in order to create a gap that is large enough for the aperture ring to fly out.

Be careful if you have a long or heavy lens attached to your camera, or if you "bump" any lens that is on your camera.

I'm glad you are still able to use your a700! My 7D didn't work anymore but it was a great excuse to upgrade to the a700 ;-)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote brettania Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2012 at 09:37
I had a vaguely similar thing happen with a Sigma zoom became stuck in my 7D. The camera had to be sent for repair as the aperture lever had jumped its contact part in the lens itself. They had to take the entire mounting flange off.

Good to hear that you have succeeded with your own repair. Enjoy your A700. I am getting a 2nd hand one soon and hope to not have any such problems.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hrstrat57 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2012 at 00:55
Originally posted by glassesofwater glassesofwater wrote:

Originally posted by rovhazman rovhazman wrote:

I would check whether the SSS works. usually it is the first thing to break on A700.

I remembered all the "my a700's SSS broke" threads here at dyxum. How do I check this? The SSS bar at the viewfinder is working and the camera does that "usual" shake when turning off.


I am astounded that it appears your SSS is not broken.

Very lucky indeed!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote teodesson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2012 at 05:14
Originally posted by hrstrat57 hrstrat57 wrote:


I am astounded that it appears your SSS is not broken.

Very lucky indeed!


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Post Options Post Options   Quote gmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2012 at 07:08
+1 on the good fortune. My A700 lost it's SSS on it's last drop to the floor and the sensor still seems to slide out of place occasionally now. Not worth the $350 price of repair unfortunately. I am, to give you a new word, 'flabbergasted' that the mounting ring actually tore away and you managed to reattach it.

Hmmm. Maybe you should be worried though. I think the estiletes may be what we call 'box cutters'. This is what some airliners have been hijacked with.
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