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    Posted: 29 September 2018 at 11:27
So i have been shooting with the A99 and also have the A6300. Ive waited patiently to see what the new FF cameras look like from Canon and Nikon but have decided to stick with Sony. I plan to sell the A99 and a couple of lenses. Budget would allow me to get the A7ii with the 24-70 F4 (boxed deal) and a fast prime. If the right deals are on at the time I may squeeze the 70-200 F4. I am keeping two macro lenses from my A mount Tamron 90mm Macro and Sony 50mm Macro. Would I be best with the LA-EA3 or LA-EA4. In the main i shoot still life and landscapes so think this set up will work well. Advice on the adaptors would be welcomed and thoughts on this setup in general for my shooting. Any big differences between the A99 & A7ii. They seem pretty similar just slight difference with benefits either way. I dont shoot fast moving objects so auto focus speed isnt an issue
 



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The 24-70/4 is not a great lens according to most reviews. I would look at the 24-105/4 or the Tamron 28-75/2.8.
What prime are you looking at and what do you consider "fast"? If you're looking at an f/1.4 lens, I would move some of that money to your normal zoom. Get the 28/2 if you want a prime, it is considered to be the second best bang for your money in FE-mount (the best bang is the 85/1.8). If you shoot landscapes and still live, you do not need a fast prime.

You're struggling on this for a while and you mentioned in a previous thread on this subject that the A-mount 50/1.4 is your go to lens - if you want to replace that one, I would go 55/1.8 - the 50/1.4 is very expensive and 50/1.8 is considered to have too many compromises (if you need 50mm and you cannot afford the 55/1.8, it still is an option).

Regarding the macro's, if you use them in manual focus, get the LA-EA3. If you use them with AF, consider buying the 90/2.8.

So, looking at this and the previous thread, this is my opinion:
Get the A7ii with the Tamron 28-75 and the 28/2.
If you have money left, consider the 90/2.8 or the 55/1.8 based on the things I read about how you use your cameras.
If you still have money, get the A7r II in stead of the A7 II.

Edit: oh, you asked after the difference between the A7 II and A99 sensor, yeah, they are older sensors, comparable, but still very capable. The 42mp A7r II is better, as is the A7 III sensor.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote morph1970 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2018 at 14:37
Thanks Addy good advice. Your right I have wrestled with the decisions but two things have now happened. One I need to replace a lens on the A99, I tried one and didnt get on with it so have decided the time is right to invest in a more supported system than stay with A mount. Secondly with the other FF systems coming out I have seen the competition. From waht your saying does that mean that neither of the kits lenses (28-70 the other being offered) are that great?

I want to get the lenses right, I cannot run to the top end ones so want to get as good as possible. Your choices seem good I like Tamron lenses and always found them pretty solid.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2018 at 20:06
I've used neither - the word on the net is that the 28-70 is fine for its price but nothing more and the 24-70/4 is not worth the money. Having said that, some people are quite happy with these. Take a look at the reviews in the lens database. The Tamron is touted as a good compromise.
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Fwiw, I shoot mostly landscapes with my a7R and the occasional portrait or macro. Im almost always composing these shots in manual focus. I regret getting the LA-EA4 when the LA-EA3 would have suited my needs much better. And Id have had a bit of cash left over.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote morph1970 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2018 at 21:57
Its odd the 24-70 certainly seems to be a lens that splits opinion. I have the 16-70 F4 on the A6300 and its a cracking lens. The LA-EA3 should work fine for my purposes.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paul07 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2018 at 20:48
Originally posted by morph1970 morph1970 wrote:

Its odd the 24-70 certainly seems to be a lens that splits opinion. I have the 16-70 F4 on the A6300 and its a cracking lens.


Whatever some reviews say, I have been pretty happy with my 24-70/4, both in combination with the A7II and now still with the A7RII. Of course, I am not asking for edges to be as sharp as the center all the time, and I also did not pay a premium price to add this lens to my bag :-) The GM-alternative is not an option for me: too big, too heavy, way too expensive, and I don't need that ultimate and superb image quality all the time anyway. If I need more than what the 24-70/4 is offering, I simply switch to prime (which I rarely do).

Another really nice lens i.m.o. is the Samsung 35/2.8. Small, light, really good IQ, and almost for free compared to the CZ35... I replaced the FE28 and FE35 with this little one and did not regret it for a minute.

And I can also recommend the FE85/1.8. Excellent IQ, good build quality, still fairly compact, and a lot cheaper than the FE55.

One lens I cannot imagine selling, is the 70-200/4.

I had the FE16-35 on the A7II as well: performed about equally good as the FE24-70, so very satisfied with it, but it did not get a lot of use... A bit on the wide side to my taste, so it got sold earlier this year.

Edited by Paul07 - 01 October 2018 at 21:13
α7Rii-VG 24-70G 70-200G 85/1.8 Samyang 35/2.8 ~~~ α6300 10-18/4 16-70/4 ~~~ Nex-5N 16-50 18-200 ~~~ α100 50/1.7 24-105 ~~~ HX60V
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Post Options Post Options   Quote morph1970 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 October 2018 at 07:20
Thanks Paul that a good reply and some fine advice. You have actually come up with the setup I was looking at. The 16-70 and 70 - 200 F4 with the Samyang being a pancake lens as a nice walkabout lens. I would probably then add one or tow other primes as money allowed. But I would have an LA-EA3 or 4 to use my tow macro lenses with.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote morph1970 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 October 2018 at 10:51
Well my A99 is now listed on a well known auction site !. Hopefully it sells and then I can move forward. Looking forward to it as I feel this could really make a big difference.
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Wish you a quick, smooth deal so you can take this next step
α7Rii-VG 24-70G 70-200G 85/1.8 Samyang 35/2.8 ~~~ α6300 10-18/4 16-70/4 ~~~ Nex-5N 16-50 18-200 ~~~ α100 50/1.7 24-105 ~~~ HX60V
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tpetpe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2018 at 15:15
With respect to the LA-EA3 or 4 i find both of them annoying with respect to slower focus, that said, the 3 is better with the 70-200 G (a mount) image quality wise, possibly because of the lack of mirror but of course wont work on any screw drive lenses...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2018 at 15:28
Originally posted by tpetpe tpetpe wrote:

With respect to the LA-EA3 or 4 i find both of them annoying with respect to slower focus, that said, the 3 is better with the 70-200 G (a mount) image quality wise, possibly because of the lack of mirror but of course wont work on any screw drive lenses...
Maybe the mirror on your LA-EA4 is dirty?
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by tpetpe tpetpe wrote:

With respect to the LA-EA3 or 4 i find both of them annoying with respect to slower focus, that said, the 3 is better with the 70-200 G (a mount) image quality wise, possibly because of the lack of mirror but of course wont work on any screw drive lenses...
Maybe the mirror on your LA-EA4 is dirty?


I must admit it gets dirty pretty quickly, and my appraisal is not at all properly tested :). It might have been better to have actually checked if it is more so before a clean than after :). It is mostly with pixel peeping or strong cropping i have noticed it and also when used it on the sal100 2.8 macro at 1:1 that i notice it. It could be subjective if I look for it more when taking the kind of shot that needs to be sharp?!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bob J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 October 2018 at 11:42
On the plus side the mirror is some distance from the image plane, so most dust spots get thrown a long way out of focus, however the LA-EA4 is a bit more prone to dust than the normal SLTs as the rear of the mirror gets more exposure than the one in a camera... plus adapters tend to spend more time skulling around in the bottom of a bag.

I use the La-EA3 - mostly with the 70-300G (which works very well), but also with some screw-drive lenses - generally the manual focus Zenitar 16, plus the 50 and 100 macro that don't miss AF so much.

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