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    Posted: 29 November 2012 at 12:14
As I have documented in a previous thread, I have quite a bit of trouble supporting my beercan on my a55 and avoiding shake. Regarding hand held, I will just have to practice, practice, practice. My question relates to tripod mounting (after reading a tripod/beercan thread elsewhere on the forum). Does anyone know of any mounting ring or other device available (or easily makeable) to better distribute the weight of the beercan when mounting on a tripod? In other words moving the tripod mount screw from the camera body bottom out onto the lens. I know pricey, really big tele glass used for sports, etc. often comes with this auxiliary feature, just wondering if anyone has adapted something like this for a beercan.

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this is the one someone recomended ; ebay link
i keep meaning to get one for mine.
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Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

this is the one someone recomended ; ebay link
i keep meaning to get one for mine.


I would be interested too, but do you think that one would work given the 66mm size of it and the basically 55mm size of the beercan? Also, where on the beercan can that be placed? I would also like to consider one for my Tamron 70-300, which does seem to have a place that a ring could be attached to.
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here

Not a ring but I use this Manfrotto with my Tamron 70-300 USD.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rusty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 14:26
Originally posted by ND Sol ND Sol wrote:

Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

this is the one someone recomended ; ebay link
i keep meaning to get one for mine.


I would be interested too, but do you think that one would work given the 66mm size of it and the basically 55mm size of the beercan? Also, where on the beercan can that be placed? I would also like to consider one for my Tamron 70-300, which does seem to have a place that a ring could be attached to.


The beercan has a 55mm filter thread, but the actuall barrel is a bit wider than that.

These sources say it's actually 72mm at the widest spot: here and here.

But the question still remains, does the suggested collar (allegedly made for a 70-200/4) fit the beercan ? Anyone have experience with those ?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ND Sol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 14:55
Originally posted by Rusty Rusty wrote:

The beercan has a 55mm filter thread, but the actuall barrel is a bit wider than that.

These sources say it's actually 72mm at the widest spot: here and here.

But the question still remains, does the suggested collar (allegedly made for a 70-200/4) fit the beercan ? Anyone have experience with those ?
Yes, I did understand that 55mm was the filter size and do realize it is somewhat bigger on the barrel. The Canon lenses seem to have rather large filter sizes, but the area where the tripod connects seems to be smaller. Still not sure where on the beercan this would fit.
 



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Originally posted by dca1213 dca1213 wrote:

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Not a ring but I use this Manfrotto with my Tamron 70-300 USD.
Thanks. Although it looks big, it appears to be a very solid setup with various fulcrum points.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dca1213 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 19:41
It is big but not too big, makes a nice handle to carry the camera. It comes with a quick release plate for attaching the camera. I have a long arca swiss plate attached to mine. In these pictures you can see it with a beercan attached to my a100 to give you a feel for the size. I would worry about trying to mount a non-compatible tripod ring.







This is a very solid rig, with the beercan the unit is set to it's shortest length.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TheEmrys Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2012 at 23:20
I like that setup. I may have to look at picking one up. Particularly when using a beercan with a TC, that could come in handy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2012 at 00:47
Originally posted by ND Sol ND Sol wrote:

Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

this is the one someone recomended ; ebay link
i keep meaning to get one for mine.


I would be interested too, but do you think that one would work given the 66mm size of it and the basically 55mm size of the beercan? Also, where on the beercan can that be placed? I would also like to consider one for my Tamron 70-300, which does seem to have a place that a ring could be attached to.


well , i ordered one so i'll find out in a few weeks.

this item was originally recomended on dyxum by someone about a year ago , though i can't remember when or by who

the diameter of the beercan is 65.35mm (approx) so a little extra packing on the mount may be needed.the posistion that was shown in the original post was at the end nearest the lens mount , this is the bit where the serial number is.by the looks of it the red dot will need to be removed.this will just pull out as it's just a peg fit.

the part of the barrel it fit's on is metal and the lens mount screws in to this , BUT i have not removed the mount to see if it is one piece of metal. so beware !

the item that Dennis shows is by far a superior product and has been made for the job , and is a universal fit for many lenses.
for regular use this would be the best option.also you'll notice that the tripod mount can be put in differant places for better balance.

but at 10 times the price i'm not shure it's worth it ( to me ) for occasional use.my beercan lens is almost always used hand held , and my "big" lenses have built in tripod mounts allready.

i will report back on how it "feels" attached when it arives.
see my photostream on flickr;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilt3/
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rpenmanparker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2012 at 11:31
The Manfrotto rig looks very solid, but I notice the front support is not adjustable for lens diameter. It appears that is taken care of by resting the front of the lens on the fixed support and adjusting the angle to the camera with the rear tilt mechanism. That should work!

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and reviews. This is the information I needed. Any more ideas? Keep them coming.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2012 at 14:19
Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

Originally posted by ND Sol ND Sol wrote:

Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

this is the one someone recomended ; ebay link
i keep meaning to get one for mine.


I would be interested too, but do you think that one would work given the 66mm size of it and the basically 55mm size of the beercan? Also, where on the beercan can that be placed? I would also like to consider one for my Tamron 70-300, which does seem to have a place that a ring could be attached to.


well , i ordered one so i'll find out in a few weeks.

this item was originally recomended on dyxum by someone about a year ago , though i can't remember when or by who

the diameter of the beercan is 65.35mm (approx) so a little extra packing on the mount may be needed.the posistion that was shown in the original post was at the end nearest the lens mount , this is the bit where the serial number is.by the looks of it the red dot will need to be removed.this will just pull out as it's just a peg fit.

the part of the barrel it fit's on is metal and the lens mount screws in to this , BUT i have not removed the mount to see if it is one piece of metal. so beware !

the item that Dennis shows is by far a superior product and has been made for the job , and is a universal fit for many lenses.
for regular use this would be the best option.also you'll notice that the tripod mount can be put in differant places for better balance.

but at 10 times the price i'm not shure it's worth it ( to me ) for occasional use.my beercan lens is almost always used hand held , and my "big" lenses have built in tripod mounts allready.

i will report back on how it "feels" attached when it arives.




well the tripod support arrived today , so here's the update;


   DON'T BUY IT ! IT'S USELESS FOR A BEERCAN...

(sorry to shout ! )allthough the diameter is about right , it is too broad.the place it would fasten onto the lens is where red dot and marker to indicate the focal length is . as it is too wide you can not fit the lens to the camera.
if your intending to use the len's on a NEX and your useing an after market adapter (rather than a sony one) then it should fit O.K.
allthough a lens adapter with a built in tripod mount would be better.

see my photostream on flickr;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neilt3/
C & C welcome.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hal3146 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2012 at 20:06
Can more people way in on this I love my beer can and am thinking about an a65 but am worried about the same thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tuanle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 December 2012 at 20:15
Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:


well the tripod support arrived today , so here's the update;


   DON'T BUY IT ! IT'S USELESS FOR A BEERCAN...

(sorry to shout ! )allthough the diameter is about right , it is too broad.the place it would fasten onto the lens is where red dot and marker to indicate the focal length is . as it is too wide you can not fit the lens to the camera.
if your intending to use the len's on a NEX and your useing an after market adapter (rather than a sony one) then it should fit O.K.
allthough a lens adapter with a built in tripod mount would be better.


Actually this tripod ring may be helpful if you use it with any teleconverter. I have checked it with a couple teleconverters, it fits perfectly.
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