FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedThe A99 thread!

Page  <1 89101112 14>
Author
robertsmx View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 03 January 2012
Country: United States
Location: Dallas, TX
Status: Offline
Posts: 281
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 January 2012 at 15:27
Originally posted by Dennis_photo Dennis_photo wrote:

Mirror-flip for MF?
I hope that the a99 will feature mirror-flip for manual focus.

I know that Sony do not like expensive moving parts like the mirror in a traditional SLR. But flipping the mirror when changing from AF to MF is a much more simple thing...

Sony offers mirror flip in DSLRs. And if it stays the course, consumers should have the SLT choice, labeled A9x, and the DSLR choice A9xx. The former has to come with fixed mirror (albeit translucent mirror). The latter, is likely to offer multiple options, as is the case in A580 (compared to A55). So, Sony is going with a two-pronged attack (three, if we count NEX but it is a different mount/purpose)... SLT being the more compact and being "SLT". Whereas, a few ideas from SLT offered as available choices in traditional DSLR design.

Now it is possible that eventually there may be just one model... it would depend on which one is more popular... SLT or DSLR. For example, I could have picked A580 but went for A55. If A580 gets ignored and market prefers the SLT, that would be it. And vice versa.

Edited by robertsmx - 19 January 2012 at 15:30
A55|NEX-3|35mm SAM|50mm M42|85mm M42|135mm STF|200mm G HS|16-50mm SSM|18-250mm HSM|18-55mm OSS|70-150mm MD|LA-EA1
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
a850 View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie

Joined: 23 January 2012
Status: Offline
Posts: 42
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2012 at 21:26
Sony seriously need to hurry up and announce this a99

At least tell us some specs.

According to Sonyalpharumors, there are a99s being tested in the wild right now!
Back to Top
rticknor View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 28 July 2011
Country: United States
Location: San Diego
Status: Offline
Posts: 176
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 February 2012 at 23:18
Originally posted by Dennis_photo Dennis_photo wrote:

Mirror-flip for MF?
I hope that the a99 will feature mirror-flip for manual focus.


Sony is pioneering a the next generation of camera beyond SLR. I am hoping the a99 will get ride of the mirror AND separate phase detection sensor all together.

If the Nikon v1 can have on-sensor phase-detection, then I'm hoping so can the a99.

That one change would solve the translucent mirror issues of the a77.

Any idea if on-sensor phase-detection for a full size sensor is possible?

I am hoping the translucent mirror is just a stepping stone to something better. I just hope that 'something better' will arrive sooner rather then later :-)

Edited by rticknor - 09 February 2012 at 23:23
-Robby
Sony a77
Sony a550 - backup
Carl Zeiss 24-70 2.8 | Tamron 70-200 2.8 | Tokina 11-16 2.8 | Sony 50 1.4 | Sony 100mm f/2.8 Macro | Sony 18-250 | HVL-F58AM & HVL-F42AM
Back to Top
D-Schap View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 20 July 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Posts: 536
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 04:51
Here's the a99 I've seen...



I get this big, empty feeling when I see Nikon pop out with something like the D800 and we're still standing in the mud, scratching our head... wondering what SONY will pop up with.

Is it just me?
Don Schap - Des Plaines, IL
"Shooting for the love of the craft ..."
- Sdi -
Back to Top
Photosopher View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Knowledgebase Contributor

Joined: 13 June 2010
Country: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Posts: 1439
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 05:32
Originally posted by rticknor rticknor wrote:

...the translucent mirror issues of the a77...


What issue? What job does the a77 prevent me from shooting because of its mirror?
Back to Top
Peekayoh View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 19 January 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Posts: 1280
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 09:48
I absolutely agree, it seems to be an issue for those who don't own one and rather less for those who do.

The reflex mirror was a big issue when it was introduced; it still is but no one thinks of it as such anymore. Sensors now have better sensitivity and the light loss associated with the mirror is less of an issue than it might previously have been.

Not that I think SLT will be around as long as the relex mirror; SLT is a transitional technology doomed to be relatively short lived.
Back to Top
Peekayoh View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 19 January 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Posts: 1280
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 09:56
Nice one Don but the young lady needs to improve her technique, even that new ultra light A99 needs a firm grip.
Back to Top
pegelli View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group
Dyxum Administrator

Joined: 02 June 2007
Country: Belgium
Location: Schilde
Status: Offline
Posts: 13180
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 10:00
Originally posted by D-Schap D-Schap wrote:

Here's the a99 I've seen...
, great fun shot, thanks for the chuckle on that one!

Originally posted by D-Schap D-Schap wrote:

I get this big, empty feeling when I see Nikon pop out with something like the D800 and we're still standing in the mud, scratching our head... wondering what SONY will pop up with.

Is it just me?

Patience is a virtue, and in the meantime my A850 and A700 perform just as good as the day before the D800 was announced
My Gallery
C, C & M always welcome on my pictures
Max pict size 1024 x 900 px
Back to Top
puddleduck View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 27 November 2009
Country: United Kingdom
Location: Cumbria, UK
Status: Offline
Posts: 954
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 10:11
I think SLT will go as soon as the only reason it was introduced is solved - fast AF for video

(its a shame video has led to reduced still images ability in the meantime)

I won't buy the A99 as it WILL be SLT - we all know this, despite vague hints thay Sony are listening. You can be sure DPReview already have an A99, and when they 'hint' that Sony will continue with SLT, we can take that as a definite in their recent headline artlcle.

So while I've gone and ordered a D800-e, and started re-stocking with Nikon lenses too, at the same time, i do plan to keep my A900 and at least a couple of lenses.
--Andy
Back to Top
Peekayoh View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 19 January 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Posts: 1280
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 11:39
Andy, I'm sure you'll be happy with the D800e, it sounds like a great camera. I'll be surprised if you keep the A900 though, I doubt it will get much use once you have the Nikon.

Personally, I'll stick with Sony; I love my A77 and the thought of the same advantages in the FF A99 is enticing. I've been a bit surprised that the A77 has become my goto camera although my A900 still has the advantage in some areas.

I agree that the new Sony FF will be SLT, I'm absolutely convinced about that; too many pointers from Sony to countenance anything else and unlike many others, I think that's a good thing although I respect the opinion of SLT doubters. Even so, as I said earlier, SLT is already a transitional, doomed technology and the unfortunately named transluscent mirror will give way to full EVIL iterations. The interesting question is where Sony goes from there. My own view is that the A-mount will continue; even though the larger body will be unnecessary to contain the electronics, the larger size is still needed for a good grip with longer lenses and maybe Sony can find novel uses for the space.
Back to Top
5thElefant View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 19 September 2008
Country: United Kingdom
Location: UK
Status: Online
Posts: 1989
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 12:09
Originally posted by Peekayoh Peekayoh wrote:


Not that I think SLT will be around as long as the relex mirror; SLT is a transitional technology doomed to be relatively short lived.

Same is true of the conventional SLR mirror. It's just the rate of change of technology that's changed.
Simon Nex5|Nex7|α900|DXO
Minolta 28-135 35-70f4 35-200xi 135f2.8|Sony E18-55 50f1.4|Tamron 70-200f2.8|Tokina AT-X235Pro AT-X840AFII|Σ 14f3.5
Back to Top
puddleduck View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 27 November 2009
Country: United Kingdom
Location: Cumbria, UK
Status: Offline
Posts: 954
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 12:17
Originally posted by Peekayoh Peekayoh wrote:

Andy, I'm sure you'll be happy with the D800e, it sounds like a great camera. I'll be surprised if you keep the A900 though, I doubt it will get much use once you have the Nikon.


I ran a Nikon D700 / A900 dual set-up before finally transitioning to Sony. I spent 4 month essentially taking the both cameras with me on all shoots, and shot essentially the same images with both cameras. A900 was the clear winner so the D700 was eventually moved on.

So I plan to do something similar when the D800-e comes on - I simply do not trust reviews or reviewers - they take shots of test charts or silly still life shots at ISO6400 then declare 'winners' - most reviewers are writers not photographers, so I need to see these things for myself, so the A900 will be around for 2012 at least.
--Andy
Back to Top
Peekayoh View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 19 January 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Posts: 1280
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 13:28
Sounds like a good plan. Hope we see some comparison images.
Back to Top
rticknor View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 28 July 2011
Country: United States
Location: San Diego
Status: Offline
Posts: 176
Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2012 at 15:20
Originally posted by Photosopher Photosopher wrote:

Originally posted by rticknor rticknor wrote:

...the translucent mirror issues of the a77...


What issue? What job does the a77 prevent me from shooting because of its mirror?


There is no issue on the a77 that prevents me from shooting. I own the a77 and love it for the most part -- and hope after the next firmware update, I will love it even more!

The translucent mirror does introduce a few issues though. More Chromatic aberration or color fringing. But the issue that bothers me is that the translucent mirror is slightly degrading the image by using my valuable light -- not by much -- but I'm not getting the maximum potential out of the sensor.

Just look at the DxOMark for a77 vs Nex-7 with exact same sensor
DxOMark - a77 vs Nex-7


But my point about the a99 was, that since they (Nikon v1) already have on-sensor phase detection auto-focus... and if that technology could be applied to the full frame a99, the translucent mirror, along with the minor issues that go along with it, would no longer needed.
-Robby
Sony a77
Sony a550 - backup
Carl Zeiss 24-70 2.8 | Tamron 70-200 2.8 | Tokina 11-16 2.8 | Sony 50 1.4 | Sony 100mm f/2.8 Macro | Sony 18-250 | HVL-F58AM & HVL-F42AM
Back to Top
Dyxum main page >  Forum Home > Equipment forums > Camera Talk Page  <1 89101112 14>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.141 seconds.

Monitor calibration strip

Dyxum.com - Home of the Minolta / Alpha-mount dSLR photographer.

Feel free to contact us if needed. You can support future development by making a donation.

Links monetized by VigLink