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    Posted: 10 November 2010 at 22:19
which one do you guys prefers

tokina 11-16 advantage
-obviously 2.8!

Tamron 10-24 advantage
-lighter (560g vs 370g)
-bigger range
-with the $100 MIR, its cheap at 399 in US

Although i like the 2.8 coz ill do lots of action stopping for indoor events, i keep wondering whether i should get the tamron instead because of the SSS advantage.
What you guys think ?
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote wesleysa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 November 2010 at 22:34
Not sure what you mean by SSS advantage, but I think you mean f-stop wise, because of SSS, you might get away with a smaller aperture/slower shutter speed because of Sony's in-body stabalisation.

(Stop reading if I'm interpreting you incorrectly)
If you want/need f2.8 it's a no-brainer, but if you just want to go wide maybe the tamron is the better option.

If I were making the decision (and as a matter of fact I am) I'd choose the tokina, for me it can do everything I'd want better than the tamron. But range isn't an issue for me.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tiffanyyuri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 November 2010 at 22:50
yeah thats what i keep thinking when trying to get a 2.8 lens
especially uwa tend to get more light than other fl

actually im wondering will the weight difference matter since ill be putting this to a55 (tokina will be heavier than the body itself)

it is always nice to get a bigger range especially tamron is 200 cheaper here in US (400 vs 600)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Andy B Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2010 at 02:25
I chose the Tokina for my A700. The f/2.8 is great indoors. I mostly use the 11-14 focal range. Most superwide zooms are not stellar performers at their longer focal lengths anyway.

Heavier, yes, but that is true of most faster, higher-quality lenses. Not sure how well heavier lenses will perform on the lighter SLTs, however, as I found some of my heavier Minolta and Tamron lenses hard to balance on my lightweight Maxxum 5.
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I went with the Tamron for the speed. 2.8 makes it a very usable indoor lens. I already had the Tamron 17-50 2.8, so it made a nice pairing for me. However, if you need range and not speed, then the Tamron might be your best choice. It will really come down to what you intend to use it for.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ricardovaste Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2010 at 10:47
Available light was important to me so I went for Tokina. I've only used it once 'properly' in such situations, but here are some samples. The left and bottom right are definately with this lens (@2.8 too I think), but not sure/don't think the top right one is.

 



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I've used both very briefly (the 10-24 belongs to a friend, and I'll use my new 11-16 for the first time properly tonight at an event).

For my use, f2.8 is needed rather than being a bonus, so for me the Tokina was a no-brainer.

But.

The Tamron definitely felt a bit wider to me. Don't underestimate that 1mm difference! I can see me using the Tokina at 11mm most of the time, but I am new to ultrawides.

The Tokina is very much the sharper of the two in my brief experience (most reviews seem to confirm this).

I am a little jealous of the nice walkabout range the Tamron has, as I love 24mm on the a700, but I think I'd use 24mm less if 10mm was instantly available to me. Possibly it's one of those focal lengths which is often underused on zooms, but brilliant for a prime?

I've paired the 11-16 with a Tamron 17-50, which I'll try out together for the first time tonight. I think it's a nice little combo, and for what they are (high quality f2.8 zooms), they're reasonably cheap too
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nygus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2010 at 11:28
I've tested all:

10-24 wide open - very soft, f8 - soft
11-16 wide open - soft, f8 - very sharp
11-18 wide open - soft, f8 - sharp

I recommend Tokina
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Post Options Post Options   Quote penfold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2011 at 05:52
Originally posted by tiffanyyuri tiffanyyuri wrote:

Although i like the 2.8 coz ill do lots of action stopping for indoor events, i keep wondering whether i should get the tamron instead because of the SSS advantage.

For action shots SSS won't give you an advantage. SSS (or any other physical stabilization method eg Nikon's VR) assists against you shaking which allows for slower exposure times but won't help with 'freezing' the action.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dave_Anderson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2011 at 06:13
Originally posted by penfold penfold wrote:

For action shots SSS won't give you an advantage.


OK, raise your hand if you don't think this is the case!



1/80 at 180mm, SSS engaged... which does help when panning.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote penfold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2011 at 08:25
Originally posted by Dave_Anderson Dave_Anderson wrote:

Originally posted by penfold penfold wrote:

For action shots SSS won't give you an advantage.


OK, raise your hand if you don't think this is the case!

1/80 at 180mm, SSS engaged... which does help when panning.


That is a great shot, but I'm not convinced that SSS helped (it certainly doesn't appear to have hindered!) and that it was your panning technique that was the reason for the successful shot.

Also the OP was talking about stopping indoor sports (which I concede could including karting) usually involves people running and in that case SSS won't assist in stopping them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thistle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2011 at 09:25
Originally posted by nygus nygus wrote:

I've tested all:



10-24 wide open - very soft, f8 - soft

11-16 wide open - soft, f8 - very sharp

11-18 wide open - soft, f8 - sharp



I recommend Tokina


You may have had a poor copy, I cannot comment on the Tokina as I have never used it but my Tamron 10-24 was excellent when stopped down, especially at 10mm which is exactly where this lens will mostly be used.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dave_Anderson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2011 at 09:33
Well, I don't want to drag this any further off topic. I just popped in to say that not all action shots are about freezing the action. Here is another example(not mine). I found the panning mode of SSS so effective that I shot very few such shots without it. The difference was obvious even on the camera LCD in daylight. YMMV.

If you're shooting indoor sports shutter speed is something you're almost always going to be fighting... use every trick in your bag and experiment to see what works for you.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote A100 Matt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2011 at 15:21
Originally posted by Dave_Anderson Dave_Anderson wrote:

I found the panning mode of SSS so effective that I shot very few such shots without it.


It has a panning mode? Is this something which needs to be selected?
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