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    Posted: 07 April 2018 at 11:31
So I have been in Ireland for about a week and a half now on vacation. Currently visiting relatives in the West.

Took my camera out yesterday, too windy to take photos so I just enjoyed the view along the coast. Heading back to my car while holding my tripod mounted A77ii in one hand, I took the most innocuous stumble, but the camera -of course - took the brunt of the fall and dipped into a small little water run off stream that was flowing down the hill. A split second or two in the water, but that appears to have been more than enough to do it in. Two inches to either side and it would have fallen on dry ground....😡. Anyway, it now appears to be in complete failure - took the batteries out as quick as I could (camera was still powered on when it took a dip) wiped everything down, and have left it drying out for the last 16 hours or so.

But a battery in this morning and it powered up and I thought I was in the clear, but after about 10 seconds, it showed me some type of internal temperature warning and shut down.

Is all lost? Opinions/advice?

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Be patiŽnt. Complete drying might take a bit longer. Battery out, remove the lens, open the memorycatd door and all other connections I would use my wife's hairdryer, but be carefull not to overheat
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Put it in a sealed container for a few days with silica gel and see what happens.

If it was salt water, it would be worse than fresh water.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2018 at 14:59
I had a near identical experience with the a700, one tripod leg twist lock wasn't tight enough and mine took a nose dive into a sandy river bed. I ended up buying like a 5 lb. can of flower drying desiccant and after wrapping the camera in a few layers of paper towels I dumped it all into a big zip lock bag and let it sit for like 3 or 4 days and it worked. The flower drying powder though was all I could find locally and I almost didn't use it because it is a fine powder and I wasn't sure if it would cause other problems but I had no choice so look for something else if possible but you will need a few pounds of it I'd say, a couple dozen silica packets won't cut it unless you recharge them a couple times a day.
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If you get salt water on it, or even brackish water, it's vital to take all batteries out ASAP. Fine tracks can corrode within hours. Then wash any electronics bits thoroughly, either in clean fresh water or with proprietry pcb cleaners.

As the other guys have said, if there wasn't much water inside and if it was fairly clean, then the desiccants may work okay.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kennyf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 April 2018 at 12:17
Morning all, thanks for the advice- nothing has changed as far as the camera working again.

Constant camera error message after about a week and a half of drying.

Took it to Photo Tech Repair in NYC a few blocks away from where Iím working, they are the authorized Sony repair facility according to Sonyís website.

Got the estimate back yesterday, itíll cost me about $365 to get fixed, not sure now if it was the water, the impact from the fall or a little of both, but these are the parts to be replaced-

- Replace P.O.I
- Replace IS unit
- Replace AP unit
- Replace Main Circuit
-General cleaning and   lube

Feels like I dodged a bullet. Their work is warranted for 90 days so Iíll put the camera through itís paces to see how it is.....

Thanks again!
 



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Ouch thats still a lot of money, but hopefully all will be OK once repaired.
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A new body is more expensive.... but still. And what about the lens? Did it fall in the stream also? Hope you won't have to make more costs!
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Originally posted by der dickgg der dickgg wrote:

A new body is more expensive.... but still. And what about the lens? Did it fall in the stream also? Hope you won't have to make more costs!


Yes, it most certainly does cost more. I had a Sony 16-50 attached at time as well as the vertical grip. Both work fine when I placed them on my older A77 body. I used that combo for the rest of my trip, as well as another event the other day, and as far as I can tell the lens is still as sharp and functional as before.
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P.O.I.? Looking at exploded diagrams I think that's the mirror assembly (Mirror Box Pg.2), IS will be the stabilization and AP probably is the aperture assembly.

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Originally posted by kennyf kennyf wrote:


Got the estimate back yesterday, itíll cost me about $365 to get fixed, not sure now if it was the water, the impact from the fall or a little of both, but these are the parts to be replaced-

- Replace P.O.I
- Replace IS unit
- Replace AP unit
- Replace Main Circuit
-General cleaning and   lube

Feels like I dodged a bullet. Their work is warranted for 90 days so Iíll put the camera through itís paces to see how it is.....

Thanks again!


Wow, it seems their prices have come down! I took my original A77 in to Photo Tech for an estimate 18 months ago. I was told the main circuit would need to be replaced and they quoted around $500 to do just that. I passed.
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