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    Posted: 03 August 2007 at 19:46
I bought this lens a long time ago, and just now I tested it with my 5D

BTW...itīs the first version, made by KIRON



210mm f/5.6



around 70mm, Macro, f/5.6



around 70mm, macro, f/5.6

Something I noticed about this lens... very cold colors and a "blue glow" around white edges, you can notice on the catīs eye in the first pic

What do you think? I think itīs a pretty decent lens, considering it was one of the early zoom lenses...

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I forgot to mention, itīs a MD lens and I used the generic 7000/9000 AF/MD adapter

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2007 at 19:55
it looks sharp with good bokeh and a nice accent.. it must be really good without the adapter!
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I've got one in M42 mount, so works with a lensless adapter. Mine is also Series 1, mark 1, made by Kiron. The separate macro mode in this lens is really great, goes down to 1:2.2.

Here are a couple of pics I've taken with this lens on the A100 (full resolution available for most, click the magnifying glass above the image).

Here's also the "pepper scene" shot with this lens at about 135mm:

f/3.5


f/5.6


f/11


I posted the same scene shot with the CZJ Sonnar 135mm and the Soligor 135mm lenses earlier.

All in all, I think this is an outstanding lens if you can find the right version (made by Kiron, 67mm filter threads, f/3.5 constant aperture and serial number begins with 22). I still can't believe my luck in getting this lens practically for free, as it came with a camera body (which I was going to buy anyway) and a couple of other lenses for 35 EUR. The seller considered the Vivitar broken because it had oil on inner surfaces, but disassembly and cleaning was straightforward and easy. =)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ivan Lee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2007 at 23:31
Very nice!!

and I heard some coments that the third version, with variable aperture (made by Komine) is even better than this one.

well, I thought that the loss of quality because of the adapter would be bigger, but Iīm really happy with the results...I didnīt know that it would come so sharp... but you are lucky to have a M42 version!




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I have one too. It's a gem.

I also have the original sales receipt dated July 24, 1973 for $275.05 including case and $11.85 Ohio sales tax from Avon Studio and Supplies in Maple Heights, Ohio.   I have the original owner's manual, original screw-in front cap and rear caps, the leather hard case and the Vivitar 67mm UV-Haze filter. My lens appears to have been used very lightly and is well cared for. The glass is like new. There are no serial numbers on the lens. It says: "lens made in Japan __ patent pending __ M/SR" The zoom is very stiff. The resistance feels like a new hydraulic cylinder. The focus and aperture rings are very smooth. The case carrying strap must have annoyed the owner because the ends were snipped off at the case fittings.

Edit: I found the serial number at the front end of the lens, not near the mount as expected. It is 223023xx. So it was made by Kiron in the 2nd week of January, 1973 as lens number3xx of the series. One of the first batch of Series 1 lenses. The website refers to a start date of 1975 as the first Series 1. That is an error. I have the proof that they started in January, 1973 in my hands.

I am not sure about the meaning of "SR" in M/SR--? Minolta/Single Reflex maybe?

I searched for a few years before I finally found this one. Very high quality stuff, these old Series 1 lenses!

Edited by Shercando - 04 August 2007 at 00:55
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some good info on this site!

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One thing I particularly like about this lens is that while the bokeh is not as smooth or passive as on some lenses, I still find it very pleasing in the background (e.g. see the flower shots I linked to above)... at least as nice as the beercan. A lot of zooms have weird, distracting bokeh, which is an important reason why I generally use only primes.
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Mine is 22746919, made at the end of 77 for M42. I like a lot the build quality of it and 35-85mm 1:2.8 too. These are the only zooms I use. I believe that part of the answer why they don't have very destructive bokeh is in their variofocal construction.

Thanks for the info, Shercando. Mine Series1 are made after 75'.

A few examples wide open. JPEG from the camera, scaled and sharped 0.5/0.5/0.











IMHO the contrast of this lens is a bit low as most of the lenses from that time. 135/2.3 is a bit better, although it is from 75' and does not have VMC in its name.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote igenchev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2007 at 16:43
Shercando, you say that yours has "original screw-in front cap". Mine cap is the same like the one in Ivan's link and does not screw as for 35-85/2.8.
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Originally posted by igenchev igenchev wrote:

Shercando, you say that yours has "original screw-in front cap". Mine cap is the same like the one in Ivan's link and does not screw as for 35-85/2.8.


Mine is identical to the one shown on the left of the group in that website. Here are some photos:






These photos were all taken with a Topaz 28mm f/2.8 macro in Minolta MC mount using the Haoda chipped MD to AF adapter. It works just fine on all my MD and MC lenses.

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Mine looks the same as above, but I have a push-on lens cap which reads "Vivitar Series 1".
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Post Options Post Options   Quote igenchev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2007 at 21:37
Thanks Arkku. I've miss the word "push-on". Mine cap is push-on and believe the Shercando's is not the same. Mine has the same hard case.

Some info for the Series1 lenses: They were introduced at 72's Photokina and available on next year. The first three are 70-210/3.5, 135/2.3 and 200/3.

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Source of the info above: "Het Vivitar objeckieven boek", Wim Broekman, 1979.

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Originally posted by Arkku Arkku wrote:

Mine looks the same as above, but I have a push-on lens cap which reads "Vivitar Series 1".


I think the push-on may have been the original and the screw-on an optional cap or even possibly dealer supplied cap since the screw-on cap I have has no writing on the exterior. I believe the cap I have was always on the lens from day one too. It is such an odd size I rather doubt that many shops would have stocked them. My Vivitar Series 1, 28-300 has the same writing as well but is a outside pinch type as are the others in the photo. When I wrote that I meant that my lens was the same as the first on in the photo, not meaning the cap.

I should also note that mine is an MC mount, not M-42.



Edited by Shercando - 04 August 2007 at 22:34
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