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    Posted: 11 May 2006 at 00:37
Disclaimer: don't try this at home, folks. I'm an electronics engineer, I know perfectly well what I'm doing.
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Today I connected my 5D to a laboratory power supply, in order to measure its supply current. In order to compare directly to the camera's battery, I adjusted the supply voltage to 7.4 volts, instead of 6 volts as marked on the camera body. Several Dyxum forum members have been running their 5Ds and 7Ds at 7.4 volts without trouble, so I felt safe to do so as well. These are not highly accurate measurements, because my current meter isn't the fastest. Here are my findings:

- Standby power = 180 mA (as long as the camera is on)
- Off = .05 mA (probably data retention)
- Auto power off = .25 mA

- LCD on = 145 mA (*1)
- LCD on but blanked = 100 mA (*2)
- LCD brightness adjustment = no difference
- Viewfinder backlight on = 5 mA
- Shutter halfpressed = 25 mA
- Flash charging (2 s) = 1200 mA apx (*3)
- Shutter open = 200 mA
- Focus motor running = 300 mA (apx)
- Anti-shake on (during shutter open) = 550mA (*4)

To calculate battery runtime, divide you battery's capacity (mAh) by the different currents (mA) from the list added up, the result will be the runtime in hours (h).

For instance: runtime when viewing images will be 1500 mAh / (180 mA + 145 mA) = 4.6 h.

Conclusions:

*1: Letting the camera switch off the LCD automatically is going to make a big difference, you'll gain 45% run time
*2: Switching off the LCD manually (using the display button or the eyepiece sensor) will only blank it, and not turn it off completely, wasting 36% power until the "LCD backlight" timer expires
*3: Flash consumes lots of juice, but only in short bursts
*4: Anti-shake for long exposures seriously drains the battery

I hope these tests will enable you to use your battery's capacity more efficiently.

If anyone has a special request for a specific test, please let me know.


Edited by Fuzzbass - 11 May 2006 at 20:42
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Thanks for those!

That is some fantastically usefull information!
(And probably explains why i drain out so fast!)
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That really is useful, Fuzzbass - thank you!

Can I check one point with you. Does the "auto power off = 0 mA" mean that there's no advantage to turning off the camera manually (other than the risk that it will be inadvertently turned on by touching the shutter release button)? I have wondered, because it is very convenient to use the standby feature..
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Mink, it appears that way, but I'll run a more precise test - in the .001 mA range - later today, to make sure.

Edit: after a more precise measurement, you are partially right. Total power off measures .05 mA, and auto power off measures .25 mA, so there is a difference. But I doubt if it has any influence on battery runtime in real life.

1500 mAh / .05 mA = 30,000 h = more than battery shelf life
1500 mAh / .25 mA = 6,000 h = over 6 months


Edited by Fuzzbass - 11 May 2006 at 20:40
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Diddlbiker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2006 at 06:12
Great measurements!

I guess we all know that AS consumes a lot of energy and that you shouldn't use it in long exposures anyway...

Would you be able to measure power drain during power on/off? Gary Friedman advises to use the auto power-off during longer sessions since it bypasses turning the camera on/off all the time, and it does make sense to me. I'm just wondering how much of a difference it would be.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2006 at 08:03
Thank you, Fuzzbass! Bart, I think this is what he's done above - unless I misunderstand your question?

Originally posted by Diddlbiker

Would you be able to measure power drain during power on/off? Gary Friedman advises to use the auto power-off during longer sessions since it bypasses turning the camera on/off all the time, and it does make sense to me. I'm just wondering how much of a difference it would be.

    
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Post Options Post Options   Quote icss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2006 at 09:09
Thank you FuzzBass for sharing these results, they are great!
I checked Gary Friedman's book and I notice differences, but he measured 7D, not 5D (and he make a mistake: he wrote the values in Amperes but he wrote the symbol "mA"). Anyway, he didn't do so accurate measurements.
And I have a question: when I keep the shutter halfpressed and AS is on(sometimes I do this for seconds...), does it consume those extra 350mA for AS? Or the AS activate only when shutter open?

PS: I think Diddlbiker refer to those peaks necessary to initialise/"save-the-current-state of " the camera when you turn on/off from the power button.

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AS is active only with the shutter open.

I guess with the shutter release halfpressed, only the motion detection system (gyros) activates to get the shake indicator running and to prepare for stabiliziation.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zbozic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2006 at 14:40
@didlbiker
Less power you spend if you use a auto-power-off, because when you do hard-power off, focus goes to infinity and on power on checks a state. So, there is this 300mA mentioned above for AF motor. When a camera is in "sleep", focus position is manintined an it not moves on half-pressed button. Turn it off only when you pack it in bag.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2006 at 16:46
Originally posted by zbozic

...Turn it off only when you pack it in bag...

I think this is the way to go. But what about the suggestion elsewhere in the forum that we should turn off the camera when changing lenses, because the electrical charge sucks dust onto the sensor? Fuzzbass, does the sensor actually carry a charge between exposures? And is there any change in power consumption when you take the lens off?

I've been chuckling at a mental image of your 5D on a hospital bed, with lots of wires connecting it to machines which make pinging noises and show green lines on little monitors... Do you shout "clear!" when you take your readings? It would be really interesting to compare these consumption figures with the 7D, and with the forthcoming Sony kit..

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I confess I hardly ever turn off when changing lenses and I've not had a lot of problems with dust on the sensor; after all, there is a focal plane shutter between the sensor and the open skies...

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thanks for the very helpful information.
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thats great piece of information, wonderful!
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