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    Posted: 09 March 2010 at 21:14
Originally posted by gillbod

it's not the weight of the 70-300g, but the lens gets very long at 300mm with attached hood. i don't mind weight, i mind size. the minolta seems to hit a nice compromise in size for me.

Why is the size so important to you? I thought for a moment that you were looking for a good travel solution, which the 200 2.8 and 2 TC's is for me (they can fit easily into my carry-on). But since it's the length at 300mm with attached hood that you've mentioned I'm wondering why the size is an issue for you.
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with regards to portraiture and candids, having the 70-300g popping out feels a bit odd, and makes people uncomfortable. i'd be happier using the 200mm, which doesn't scare my subjects. i even find that my tamron 90/2.8 makes people uncomfortable, just from the extension while focusing.

but it's not entirely about size, it just seems more suitable for me on other areas:

i rarely need the long end of my 70-300g, unless i am doing very occasional birding and wildlife, so that 200-300 range just doesn't get used for me in normal circumstances. even when i do need it, i think strapping a 2x teleconverter to the 200 and stopping down one stop gets me better results than my 70-300g.

but then there's the focusing speed. my 70-300g is not very slow, but i don't have an action lens, and there are times where i wish i did. birds in flight keeper rate could be higher. i'd like to shoot more action, and the 70-300g doesn't cut it, either focusing speed, or aperture wise.

and the background isolation. this this is about 2 stops faster than the 70-300g at 200mm, and at no penalty with regards to size.

and it's solid metal, as opposed to sony's plastics. i often don't use a camera bag, so it's nice to know the lens has a metal shell.

i understand why the 70-300g has its advantages. to me, the advantages are purely in the versatility in zoom. i'm willing to sacrifice this, because the 200mm seems better at everything else...
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Well, my 200 is better than any other of my lenses. Except for zooming.
I sold my lovely 100-300APO and a beercan to buy it, and never regretted. But it was a subjective decision.

Maybe ExposurePlot might help you analyse your current needs.

Here's what I found from recent files:

A700 | A100 | 28-135 | 24-105 | 100-300 APO | 20 2.8 | 50 1.4 | 85 1.4 | 100 2.8M | 200 2.8 APO | TC 2x APO | Sigma 50 2.8M | Sigma 105 2.8M | TC 2x MC7
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Originally posted by gillbod

with regards to portraiture and candids, having the 70-300g popping out feels a bit odd, and makes people uncomfortable. i'd be happier using the 200mm, which doesn't scare my subjects. i even find that my tamron 90/2.8 makes people uncomfortable, just from the extension while focusing.

but it's not entirely about size, it just seems more suitable for me on other areas:

i rarely need the long end of my 70-300g, unless i am doing very occasional birding and wildlife, so that 200-300 range just doesn't get used for me in normal circumstances. even when i do need it, i think strapping a 2x teleconverter to the 200 and stopping down one stop gets me better results than my 70-300g.

but then there's the focusing speed. my 70-300g is not very slow, but i don't have an action lens, and there are times where i wish i did. birds in flight keeper rate could be higher. i'd like to shoot more action, and the 70-300g doesn't cut it, either focusing speed, or aperture wise.

and the background isolation. this this is about 2 stops faster than the 70-300g at 200mm, and at no penalty with regards to size.

and it's solid metal, as opposed to sony's plastics. i often don't use a camera bag, so it's nice to know the lens has a metal shell.

i understand why the 70-300g has its advantages. to me, the advantages are purely in the versatility in zoom. i'm willing to sacrifice this, because the 200mm seems better at everything else...

OK, thanks for the reply. That makes sense, and as mentioned it's good for traveling too! I'm sure you'll enjoy using it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote brororn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 March 2010 at 23:41
Just a side note: if you buy the non-HS version of 200/2.8 and combine it with the original 1.4x APO TC, you get faster focusing than with 200/2.8 HS + 1.4x APO II TC. 200/2.8 APO HS + original 1.4x APO TC combination is probably too heavy gearing. Might be difficult to find the original 1.4x APO TC though...
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