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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:


I stated several times that personally, i have learned more about strength and weakens of Sony system only after investing in Nikon one.


Agree 100%. I have found that the more I shoot with my Contax film camera the less I need more and the more I need less.
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:


I stated several times that personally, i have learned more about strength and weakens of Sony system only after investing in Nikon one.

Indeed. I did not knew that Minolta's automatic white balance was good until I had a k20d
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Originally posted by PMacinSeattle PMacinSeattle wrote:

I often think that being a single mount site creates something of an echo chamber effect so that negatively and/or fanboyism feeds itself and the site becomes unbalanced.

Yes, this is an unfortunate, but normal (human if may i) side effect of brand oriented forum (site).
Originally posted by PMacinSeattle PMacinSeattle wrote:


I suspect that having the triumphs, trials and tribulations of similar systems all intermingling we would all have a far more realistic view of the strengths and weaknesses of whatever we are shooting with.

For something like that it isn't enough to have users with single but different brands since this is often leading to even worst atmosphere.
What significantly increases the quality in this respect are users that are familiar with more than one system (optimally by owing more than one system).
Ideally, most discussions would be about particular camera model for example and not about particular brand (as it is too often the case).

I stated several times that personally, i have learned more about strength and weakens of Sony system only after investing in Nikon one.

Edited by Kiklop - 12 March 2010 at 15:03
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Sorry for not replying earlier folks, I had a busy day yesterday at work (no, I wasn't out taking pics with the K7, it's not here yet).


The cat thread won't be the same, just for a start...

Awww... the cat thread! Yes, I have used $4000 worth of equipment to take pictures of my cat, and I'm not ashamed to admit I enjoy it!
I'm not sure about the wisdom of a "highly objective" A700-K7 comparison as your first "Emeritus' post, though.

Well... I never said the comparison would be posted here, did I? Well... unless Kiklop decides to go ahead with that plan of including the 'underdog' mounts in a small Dyxum forum, somehow

We stay a-mount cameras and still imaging (no video subforum either) ONLY site; that's not negotiable :)

A highly commendable decision, if I may say so!

I suspect that having the triumphs, trials and tribulations of similar systems all intermingling we would all have a far more realistic view of the strengths and weaknesses of whatever we are shooting with.

You're absolutely right, PMac!

Something to think about. Maybe I'll just wear out that 7D and a700 then see what's next.

I wouldn't recommend rushing into a mount-switching decision. Sony and I (and others) may not see eye-to-eye in regards to camera ergonomics/handling/features, but that doesn't mean they don't have high quality products; I am quite sure the next cameras will be excellent and will surprise (in a good way) a lot of folks; and Sony's market share is bound to increase as time goes by (even if it's achieved by selling 'easy-to-use' DSLRs and EVILs to p'n's users), they might not become #2 as easy as they believed when they joined the DSLR game, but they will surely establish themselves as an important player... which can only be a good thing for the future of the A-mount in the long run.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote PMac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 March 2010 at 08:09
Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:


What i considered instead is to add Pentax (and possibly olympus) gear as well making dyxum less brand devoted and kind of "counterweight place" compared to mostly CaNikon oriented sites.

At that time, there wasn't a place like pentaxforums.com has become, so there was a chance to fill the hole and have enough users to be an useful resource.


I think that with the active (and excellent) moderation this site has that would be a truly brilliant idea still and would recommend it highly. I often think that being a single mount site creates something of an echo chamber effect so that negatively and/or fanboyism feeds itself and the site becomes unbalanced.

I suspect that having the triumphs, trials and tribulations of similar systems all intermingling we would all have a far more realistic view of the strengths and weaknesses of whatever we are shooting with.
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Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

Does anybody look back fondly at the Konica heritage of our cameras? It doesn't seem like they added much value at all, and I thought it was a horrible branding mistake to call the cams "Konica Minolta". I've always hated the micro-sized font used on the logo of my Maxxum 5D and my Dimage A2 too. I guess the K-M merger was a last ditch effort to save both companies. I'm curious if any Dyxumers used Konica SLRs back in the day ...

Ok, off topic so i'll keep it short: my guess is we wouldn't have had any A-mount if Minolta hadn't merged with Konica in the 7D years (2005 -on?).
I started with a KM A200 and i liked the name, but Minolta does sound stronger yes..
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Good luck. Cezar!

I don't really blame you. My brother just bought into Pentax
and I must say, he creates some spectacular images with that rugged little camera.
He picked it for some of the same reasons you mention, small, rugged, quality images.
Hmmm. Something to think about. Maybe I'll just wear out that 7D and a700
then see what's next.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pyl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2010 at 20:39
Sorry to see you go, I must admit I also find the K7 and the pancake primes very appealing.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2010 at 18:56
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:


... with the EVILs coming, you may need to remove "dSLR" soon ... ;-)

Not really, these will not be something dyxum will serve for but since i'm quite confident that most other a-mount sites will add them under their "umbrella" users will not miss much.
We stay a-mount cameras and still imaging (no video subforum either) ONLY site; that's not negotiable :)
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

So it is because of brettania and other admins at that time that dyxum is an a-mount site .. not because of me (this is why we still have "home of the Minolta / Alpha-mount dSLR photographer" description for dyxum altough it would make more sense to have Sony in this title as well)
I've been a Minolta user since our family purchased an SRT-101 and an XE-7 long, long ago; then a huge gap until I got a Dynax 505si Super (a "gray market" purchase here in the U.S.). Does anybody look back fondly at the Konica heritage of our cameras? It doesn't seem like they added much value at all, and I thought it was a horrible branding mistake to call the cams "Konica Minolta". I've always hated the micro-sized font used on the logo of my Maxxum 5D and my Dimage A2 too. I guess the K-M merger was a last ditch effort to save both companies. I'm curious if any Dyxumers used Konica SLRs back in the day ...

So, nominally, the Dyxum tag line should read:

"home of the Minolta / Konica Minolta / Sony Alpha-mount dSLR photographer"

... with the EVILs coming, you may need to remove "dSLR" soon ... ;-)

Cesar, back on topic, enjoy your new gear! Photography (like so many things in life) is like the Goldilocks story, you just have to find what is "just right". I hope you've found your "just right", at least for now!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Serdar A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2010 at 16:04
Thanks to Brettania and other mods . If they didn't persuade you, I wouldn't be on this forum. I don't own a single piece of Minolta equipment or ever owned one.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2010 at 15:24
Originally posted by foot foot wrote:

and pentax that i sometimes hope dyxum would start pentax forum/lens database/lens reviews/sample pictures.....

LOL, funny you mentions this ...
Since i guess enough time is behind us now, i think i can make a confession here.
When Sony took over KM i didn't wanted Sony gear here (as an exclusive brand). We had a lot of discussions "behind the scenes", we had some polls as well and then i finally agreed with what most thought at that time, so we become an a-mount site
So it is because of brettania and other admins at that time that dyxum is an a-mount site .. not because of me (this is why we still have "home of the Minolta / Alpha-mount dSLR photographer" description for dyxum altough it would make more sense to have Sony in this title as well)

And, as always, brettania and other admins were right; i don't have any regret about the way we went.

What i considered instead is to add Pentax (and possibly olympus) gear as well making dyxum less brand devoted and kind of "counterweight place" compared to mostly CaNikon oriented sites.

At that time, there wasn't a place like pentaxforums.com has become, so there was a chance to fill the hole and have enough users to be an useful resource.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote maewpa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2010 at 04:27
The cat thread won't be the same, just for a start... It's sad when people leave after such a long time and I'm sure most of us remember at least a few of your 2500+ posts along the way, and that you always seemed to be a positive part of the Dyxum community. So, I won't be surprised if the thread gets a little longer yet. I hope the change inspires and enthuses you.

Glad you are going to be an Emeritus. Although all knowledge is good knowledge to me, I'm not sure about the wisdom of a "highly objective" A700-K7 comparison as your first "Emeritus' post, though.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2010 at 03:47
Originally posted by cezarL cezarL wrote:

As for continuing to post my photos here (a lot of people have brought it up, which gives me that warm, fuzzy feelin' ... ): I would really like to do that, but I'm afraid it's not up to me, but for the Admins to decide


there seems to be such a connection between "the mind of minolta" and pentax that i sometimes hope dyxum would start pentax forum/lens database/lens reviews/sample pictures.....

i don't think you will be disappointed in pentax. i have the k20d and
you're right, there's something about pentax that seems enjoyable and fun
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