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Originally posted by Atom Ant Oz Atom Ant Oz wrote:

think we can blame vloggers who think that the most interesting subject in any scene is their own talking head.


Actually, what I find fascinating is the way that vlogging has adopted the classic 'talking head' as a natural ingredient for efficient information transfer, long after TV documentary makers discouraged it as old-fashioned and elitist, preferring instead to give us the modern version of cinema verite: short punchy soundbites over endless textually-irrelevant shots of poeple walking down corridors and eating in restaurents, 'to keep the images moving' ...
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Good vloggers are not old fashioned talking heads, they move and interact with their audience.

Also, why should we blame vloggers? They also want swivel screens..... In fact, I think Canon is doing very well with their articulating screens.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Also, why should we blame vloggers? They also want swivel screens..... In fact, I think Canon is doing very well with their articulating screens.


I wouldn't blame another group of enthusiast hobbyists (which is how I see myself) but I do wish there were a clearer distinction between stills and video cameras, especially in APS-C. But this is veering off-topic.

The unique feature of the Sony SLT articulation is that the screen flips so that it faces the user (vlogger, selfie taker, etc.) above the camera body. However, this precludes use of an external mic mounted on the flash shoe. Ext. mic + selfie screen = vlogger. Since cameras are now expected to perform both still and video duties in almost equal balance, maybe that's why the Sony SLT articulation mechanism is no longer seen by any camera maker, AFAIK.

The alternative articulation strategy, where the screen flips out on the side of the camera, is compatible with mounting external mics and is indeed seen in some cameras. Why won't Sony (nor Fuji) do that? I can speculate that it's because it looks somewhat "cheap": it messes up a bit too much with the design/dimensions of the camera, and makes it look "toy"-ish. But this is just my deeply subjective opinion.

One more thought on the SLT articulation: my Fuji X-H1 VF/eye-cup sticks out quite a bit from the body, presumably to prevent my face from engaging the touchscreen or simply greasing it up. It's a nice feature, but it also makes the type of hinging used in Sony SLT articulation harder to implement. So maybe touch-screens, and thus prominent VFs, have also contributed to this design's demise.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eldonito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 December 2018 at 15:18
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by Atom Ant Oz Atom Ant Oz wrote:

think we can blame vloggers who think that the most interesting subject in any scene is their own talking head.


Actually, what I find fascinating is the way that vlogging has adopted the classic 'talking head' as a natural ingredient for efficient information transfer, long after TV documentary makers discouraged it as old-fashioned and elitist, preferring instead to give us the modern version of cinema verite: short punchy soundbites over endless textually-irrelevant shots of poeple walking down corridors and eating in restaurents, 'to keep the images moving' ...


Also the efficiency of the medium does not fully work for me... it can be very useful if they are actually demonstrating something, but otherwise I would much prefer reading or skimming through an article / opinion piece / forum post, than watching someone talk for 10 min before they get to the point.

But that's just me: if left unattended, my 8 yo nephew can spend all day watching talking heads on youtube!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 December 2018 at 15:34
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Good vloggers are not old fashioned talking heads, they move and interact with their audience.

Also, why should we blame vloggers? They also want swivel screens..... In fact, I think Canon is doing very well with their articulating screens.


I wasn't blaming them - I like to see someone's head while they're talking, if they're speaking their own words at least and not reading from soemthing. IT helps me interpret their words.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 December 2018 at 15:57
The thing that makes our fully articulating screen unique is that you can position it at odd angles but it is still lined up with the center of the lens, it makes point and shooting much more intuitive.
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