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Topic: What's your system Mac + a77/a900/a850 owners?Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:22 |
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For the Mac owners and a77/a900/a850 shooters among us: could you please outline the main specs of your Mac + PP software + OSX version and briefly comment on how fast it handles 24 Mpx raw files?
My old mac mini has moved on to the electronic hereafter so I'm forced to shop for a replacement a bit earlier than I planned. At the moment my largest raw files are 14 mpx (from an a450 and a290) so the lowly first generation 1.83 GHz intel duo mini with 2 Gb RAM and 320 Gb 5400 rpm drive that I was using till now was good enough (if not blazing fast by a long shot). But as I'm probably going to move up to one of the 24 Mpx alpha bodies a year from now, I'd like to get post processing hardware capable of handling a77/a900 size raw files with reasonably speed. The catch of course is that the more I spend now at the computing end, the less I will have left for the camera side of my budget, and there may well be financially lean times ahead work wise. So I'm hoping not to go over $900 for a faster mac - especially keeping in mind the potential price/specs of the rumored SLT full frame model(s) that might appear by the end of 2012. I'm fairly pleased with my current monitor and not in need of a portable system, so I've been looking mostly at ratings for older mac pros (would have to be 2006/7 models to stay under $1000) and 2009-2011 mac minis at benchmark websites etc. But those are not necessarily super informative as my workflow centers mostly around DxO 7 and gimp in OSX 10.6, while the speed tests in websites typically are more game-centered and if they include any photo software at all then it's usually one of photoshop's versions or lowly iphoto. Any tips and personal experience on relevant hardware performance are appreciated! Edited by pdeley - 02 February 2012 at 16:28 |
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a450, a500, a700, 600si, 700si & other 35 mm bodies, 11-18, Sig 20 f1.8, 30 f2.8 macro, 24-85, Quanty 50 f2.8 macro, mf Viv 90 f2.8 macro, 70-300G, 300 f4, 500 f8, 600 f4
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:28 |
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You don't need a processing powerhouse really. I have a Core 2 Duo 2.26ghz macbook pro. What you need is a fast hard drive (7200 rpm minimum, SSD is better) and lots of RAM. 8gb minimum, more is better.
My setup works fine for an a900... |
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:34 |
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Yes, the speed gains with SSD drives in web benchmarks are pretty dramatic! Do you use one of those in your macbook pro? They're still really expensive in $ per Gb though so not really an option within sub $1000 budget as far as I can tell...
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a450, a500, a700, 600si, 700si & other 35 mm bodies, 11-18, Sig 20 f1.8, 30 f2.8 macro, 24-85, Quanty 50 f2.8 macro, mf Viv 90 f2.8 macro, 70-300G, 300 f4, 500 f8, 600 f4
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:44 |
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Macbook Air 2.13GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2GB. OS X 10.6.8
I have DXO on it that I've only used a couple of times. Slow and the screen is too small. |
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:51 |
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Apple charges ridiculous prices for their hardware... A 512gb SSD drive is 1400$ at the apple store. Comparable drives from different manufacturers in a local shop start at about 750$.
The Apple store site dosen't specify the techinical details of transfer rates and such, so it's difficult to compare part for part. Do the Apple-branded drives use special connectors ? Or standard SATA ? |
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 16:52 |
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I am still using my dusty 3 year old Mac Book Pro with A77, Paul. You should remember it. It is that "old", I could not add any more memory to it (4Gb RAM). Capture One works fast enough for me.
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 17:49 |
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I use 2010 Macbook Pro (2.4ghz, 8gb RAM) which is reasonable with the 24mb A900 RAW files, although I would like it a little faster.
2008 iMac (2.83ghz, 4gb RAM) is quite a bit slower. Use Aperture 3 on both. Upgrading from 4gb RAM in the MacBook pro made a noticeable improvement but iMac will only take 6gb so will upgrade the whole machine rather than just 2gb RAM. Sounds like I need SSD to boost things a little, although liking to have all my pics in one library limits that! |
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 17:57 |
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Hmm.. I'm in the Mac + A77 camp.
Desktop: Mac Pro - 2 socket dual core system(2.66Ghz) / 16GB ram / 4 x 1TB drives (os drive,timemachine drive,scratch/import drive, work drive) - normal 17" monitor MacBookPro - dual core 2.66Ghz / 8GB ram / 750GB drive Applications: Adobe Lightroom 3.5 - 90% of import/catalog/post processing Photoshop CS5 Extended - 10% of post processing / special noise reduction Upgrades: - MacBookPro upgraded from 4GB to 8GB with an 8GB upgrade kit. ~$75 from OWC. - Mac Pro, acquired used. Upgraded memory to 16GB for about $200-$300. 1TB drives from old system. Suggestions: - Upgrade your memory. More memory = less swapping while processing large files/etc. - Faster drives are great, like SSD(s)/etc. This should really help with apps like Lightroom, which hits catalog files alot. A hybrid drive might work. SSD too expensive for me right now, so holding off. - Keep your OS/etc. drives < 80% full. Once you go near/over, your system will slow down ALOT. This is due to how OSX handles its filesystem... Import of photos: - SDHC FW reader - SDXC USB reader (need a usb 3.0 card for the Mac Pro!!) |
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 18:22 |
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I have a a65 and shoot RAW almost exclusively.
I use a 16 month old iMac with i5 processor and 12 gigs of memory (the extra memory is essential) and do most of my post-processing with Aperture. I also recently purchased an inexpensive blu-ray burner for backup (24 megapixel RAW files quickly fill up DVD-R's). I find my system works with 24 megapixel RAW files easily. It is not quite as snappy as the 10 megapixel images from my a230. To me the key things you want are: 1) lots of memory (3d party memory is very cheap) - the more the better. 2) Lots of hard disk space (multiple USB drives should be adequate). It doesn't take a lot of processor power to manipulate the images if you have both of the above. |
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 18:46 |
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I do not have an SSD but I've found no matter how fast the HD rotation speed or how much ram, exporting large batches seems to take forever and I'm assuming that is the last link in the speed chain for my lightroom workflow. Importing speed went up more than 10x when I changed the ram to 8gb, alas the ram was faulty and the computer locked up when it dipped into the second 4gb stick... editing photos live is affected by processor speed and ram because it renders a RAW file everytime you view a new one... and finally exporting which I have noticed no speed gains even buy using my dads core i7 imac... Get an OWC mercury extreme 6G (so it works with the next generations)... those are incredible and consistent... other brands are catching up to OWC though... |
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Posted: 02 February 2012 at 19:15 |
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I use a 2 year old iMac with Aperture 3 and Photoshop CS5 installed. I've got OSX 10.6.8, 3.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, and 8GB of RAM.
I'm happy to say that it works fine for my new a77. The files are noticeably slower to process than a700 ones, but it's not so much that it's very annoying. My only problem is hard drive space! EDIT: Forgot to say, I only ever shoot RAW. |
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Posted: 03 February 2012 at 02:06 |
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Thanks for all the responses so far! Please keep them coming
if you use DxO only occasionally, what would be your more frequent raw conversion approach 5th? And is the slow DxO v6 or v7?
Does the BD-R work directly with your iMac Wallendo, or is there some trickery involved? (like burning BD from windows in parallels or such) AFAIK Apple chose not to implement any support for bluray drives... |
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I bought an LG "Super Multi Blue Rewriter" It works on Lion out of the box. Toast is needed to make video BD's, but data BD's can be created just by inserting a blank BD and dragging the files to this disk (no added software or drivers needed). |
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There is only one thing important to me when it comes to processor speed for a900 RAW files. I load them in Adobe Bridge, and view all with 100% magnifier to compare sharpness at critical points of focus. This process must be fast for a pleasurable editing experience. I need to go through thousands of files.
Two Macs. iMac 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo takes 9 seconds to load 100% magnify preview. MacBook Pro i7 Quad Core takes 2.2 seconds to load 100% magnify preview. I compared this to the fastest Tower Mac they had at the Mac Store and it was a tie at around 2 seconds. So I bought the laptop and an LED monitor. I keep all apps on home computer SSD HD. I do all processing of a particular edit on that drive and then send the final edit to a 4TB NAS raid backup for two copies. Working from the raid is very slow, as it is network drive for backup and storage only. I'll pull a project off that drive, work from the internal SSD, then send edits back to the NAS Raid for storage. I don't keep any projects on the internal SSD unless they are being worked on. |
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