Tokina 80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AT-X 840 AF-II A-mount lens reviews

reviews found: 5   
reviewer#11341 date: Sep-14-2013
sharpness: 4.5
color: 5
build: 5
distortion: 4
flare control: 5
overall: 4.7
tested on:
  • film camera:Film camera
  • APS-C: 6MP6 MP; 10MP10 MP; 12MP12 MP; 14MP14 MP; 16MP16 MP; 20MP20 MP; 24MP24 MP
  • full frame: 24MP24 MP36MP36 MP
ownership:I own this lens
compared to:Sony 18-70 4.5-5.6
Sony 50mm 1.8
Sony 18-135 SAM 3.5-5.6
price paid:£165
positive:Brilliant Range
Well built
Very Sharp @ 80mm
Tri/monopod bracket
Price
negative:Aperture
Heavy (but doesn't bother me that much)
comment:O.K as a beginner to DSLR it has taken me a few years to commit to buying another lenses. As an avid windsurfer and outdoor enthusiast I wanted to get some better shots of my mates windsurfing. Looking at the reviews on Dyxum it seemed fair enough to part with my money for a lenses of this size at under £200.
I agree with the majority of the reviews and can only elaborate that it is not too good on full 400mm zoom (600 equivalent to FF), but still good to have the extra 100 as an option. It's built to last and has a nice solid ring instead of a plastic one, has a tripod mount (but you can't take it off)and a decent hood to reduce flare.
Looking into other zooms at this price I think I defiantly got a steal, if you see one grab one because they are very rare for the Sony Alpha's.

It is very sharp @ 80-150 range and above this a bit of sharpening in Lightroom goes a long way. I agree that just taking maximum zoom down a notch results in better quality and less CA. I have managed to get some fantastic pics using this lenses (I'll add them) and realise what a difference a bit a glass can make especially compared to the kit lenses.

This Lens has made me buy a better camera A65 and I am now looking at buying prime lenses to really get the most out photography. If your a novice like me, don't hesitate to get better glass than the horrible kit lenses supplied.

I've have to re-comment on the 400mm, I'm still learning and realise at this distance not only using a tripod but timer or remote release can have brilliant results and is vital! Please see the photo of the moon shot @ 400mm in this way and therefore it is still pretty sharp at 400mm if used correctly (by the photographer).
reviewer#8785 date: Mar-14-2011
sharpness: 4
color: 5
build: 5
distortion: 4
flare control: 4
overall: 4.4
tested on:
  • film camera:Film camera
  • APS-C: 6MP6 MP; 10MP10 MP; 12MP12 MP; 14MP14 MP; 16MP16 MP; 20MP20 MP; 24MP24 MP
  • full frame: 24MP24 MP36MP36 MP
ownership:I own this lens
compared to:
missing
price paid:399 used
positive:Built like a tank.
negative:Heavy.
comment:I picked this up used on eBay and love it! I have an A55 and use it in our local arena under HPS lighting with no problem however it does get heavy lugging it around for 2 hours.
reviewer#7798 date: Aug-9-2010
sharpness: 3.5
color: 5
build: 5
distortion: 4
flare control: 2
overall: 3.9
tested on:
  • film camera:Film camera
  • APS-C: 6MP6 MP; 10MP10 MP; 12MP12 MP; 14MP14 MP; 16MP16 MP; 20MP20 MP; 24MP24 MP
  • full frame: 24MP24 MP36MP36 MP
ownership:I own this lens
compared to:Beercan
Tamron 70-200 f2.8
Minolta 100-300xi
price paid:220GBP
positive:Compact
Range
Colours
negative:Soft at the long end
comment:Starts off fairly sharp wide open at shorter focal lengths. As you get over 200mm it starts to soften up until you get to 400 where it's soft. Stopping down helps. F8 is really pretty good up to 300 and more. 400 needs at least F11 to be vaguely sharp. As a sharpness rating something like 4 under 200, 3.5 for 200-300+ and 2.5 for 400.

But... some sharpening in PP works wonders.

Colours are really nice. A huge lens hood helps with flare (but get the sub in the frame and flare appears).

Despite the softness at the long end its lack of size and weight makes it as portable as a 75-300 and as a 75-300 (OK an 80-300) it's not bad at all, and of course you get a very usable 300-400 as a bonus.

Note: just like my other 2 Tokina lenses it has the same lens ID so uses the same -11 micro adjustment that the other two share. But, doesn't need it, so some manual fiddling is needed.
reviewer#3056 date: Dec-9-2007
sharpness: 4
color: 4
build: 5
distortion: 5
flare control: 5
overall: 4.6
tested on:
  • film camera:Film camera
  • APS-C: 6MP6 MP; 10MP10 MP; 12MP12 MP; 14MP14 MP; 16MP16 MP; 20MP20 MP; 24MP24 MP
  • full frame: 24MP24 MP36MP36 MP
ownership:I own this lens
compared to:100-300 APO
price paid:350 US$
positive:Reasonable Sharpness
Build
Range
negative:Heavy
CA
comment:Edited my review after some more experience.

My shooting style doesn't rely on telephoto lenses much, but I have been trying to do more with them recently.

This lens came to me in like new condition, but used. The build is excellent and this makes it reasonably heavy. When shooting at 400mm I have a hard time keeping it stable. It has a very nice soft case and a big hood.

The zoom lock is ok for me, It is a funny tiny switch on this reasonably big lens though. Mine has very little zoom creep, but the zoom lock is still a nice convenience when carrying it around.

As far as sharpness goes, I think mine is reasonable even wide open.

VS the Minolta 100-300APO: I'd say the sharpness wide open at 300mm is about the same. The APO is maybe slightly sharper and with less CA.

400mm doesn't lose so much sharpness then at 300mm but does adds even more CA which leads to a noticeably worse image quality. Looking very critically in high contrast areas it looks almost like a color separated double image.

Auto focus is not fast, but it also isn't bad. I have not directly compared, but it seems faster than the beercan.

Overall I am pleased with this lens and will probably keep it. Its build, range are its best points. Image quality is acceptable imho. I look forward to shooting more with it.
reviewer#2609 date: Aug-6-2007
sharpness: 4
color: 4
build: 5
distortion: 5
flare control: 4
overall: 4.4
tested on:
  • film camera:Film camera
  • APS-C: 6MP6 MP; 10MP10 MP; 12MP12 MP; 14MP14 MP; 16MP16 MP; 20MP20 MP; 24MP24 MP
  • full frame: 24MP24 MP36MP36 MP
ownership:I own this lens
compared to:Minolta 75-300/4.5-5.6 (D)
Minolta 70-210/4 Beercan
Sigma 18-200/3.5-6.3
Rubinar 500/5.6 MF reflex
price paid:€250,- (second hand)
positive:-range
-sharpness (up to 350mm)
-did I say range ?
-low weight (relative to range)
-relatively compact; good travel lens
-tripod collar
-nice wide apertures available (though not always usable), 5.6 @ 400mm
-PRICE!!
negative:-needs small (f8 - f11 and further) aperture @300-400mm to get usable DOF & sharpness
-CA at 400 mm
-trombone zoom, so prone to catch some dust over time
comment:I stumbled onto this lens because I was scouring the local equivalent of eBay for a telezoom with a longer focal length than your typical 300mm and someone just across town from me was selling it, for a very OK price.
I was actually thinking of the Bigma but was put off by it's typical price, even when buying second hand.

In the range 80-250 mm this Tokina lens performs well. If you can work with the longer focal length on APS-C this makes it usable as an outdoor walk-around lens, depending on circumstances.
At f8 it delivers good results even above 300mm but the lens needs good light conditions, therefore.
I've made the occasional nice portrait with this at a bit of distance.
Colours are bright but even, warm yet not excessive so I'd call that nicely neutral. Not Minolta bright, but warm nonetheless, certainly not flat or bland.

In the typical focal range for which someone buys this lens, 250-400mm, it's so-so in absolute terms,
but unbeatable for the price and physical dimensions of the package.
I bought a matching close-up add-on lens for the Tokina from a Nikon user who replaced his AT-X 840 with a Bigma and he said Bigma was much bigger & heavier in exchange for almost no extra range.
The Bigma is optically a better performer though, he said, which I can't compare for myself.

At apertures wider open than f8 and above about 250mm focal length, CA is notcieable on the AT-X 840 II and the lens sharpness becomes soft (wide-open) above about 300mm.

The zoom ring has no indicators between 200 and 400mm making it hard to judge whether you're at 300mm, 350 or 250.
It gave me the impression that Tokina was working on a 80-200 and founde it would still work at 400mm so they added some length and an extra line on the ring. When composing TTL in the viewfinder this lack of focal length indication is not a problem though.
I usually turn it back just a little from the maximum extension since I feel that results are slightly sharper that way.

Using the Sig 18-200 and this lens on my 7D, I can actually cover the range of effective 27mm - 600mm with just two lenses, making that combination of 2 an ideal holiday package, with nice overlap between the two making you not have to change lens too often.

AF can hunt in low light but in general it's accurate and quick on the 7D, except above 350mm focal where it becomes so-so. I read somehwere that next to the added tripod collar, the AT-X 840 II has an improved AF chip compared to the original so my guess is that it shows.

Since the lens is front-heavy, the inclusion of a zoom lock switch at 80mm is great, though it's so fidgety that I've actually had this slip loose a couple of times at the slightest touch. The lens drops down like a brick when pointed downwards if you don't grab it quickly.
When the AF clutch isn't engaged, the front can still rotate out more than a cm when pointed downwards. Yes, it rotates when focusing.

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My ratings are relative to the price I paid, since I have no personal experience with 'G' glass so I can't compare to that. It is affordable portable range in a tight, relatively light & small package so there are limitations to live with.
When I call it light, one should bear in mind I am 6'2" and not exactly skinny, so that's relative to what I'm capable of lifting.

I gave it a 4 for sharpness not because it isn't good for what this lens is, but because it's uneven; sharp wide-open in the range where you have other options (up until 250mm) and less sharp even stopped down in the range that this lens is typically purchased for (300mm or more).

I gave it a 4 for flare control since I do have one or two shots with direct light where some flare/ghosting is noticeable, if I find some time I'll post one in the sample image section. I have many more where this doesn't happen so I'll blame unusual circumstances but the lens still exhibited it, so no 5 there.

Build is a hefty 5, apart from the included lens-hood, this thing is all-metal (including the zoom extension tubing) and feels like the barrel of a tank, except for the rubberised zoom and focus rings that feel delicate, which is as it should be I think.
It's heavy but not so heavy that I don't dare to stick it out in front of me unsupported for fear of damaging the mount. Obviously it needs support both hand-held or on a tripod though, hence the addition of the collar in rev. II
Tripod collar is sturdy, non-removable but can be turned around the lens 360 degrees so you can always get the mount & screw out of the way. No click stops on the collar so a bit of attention needed to make sure the camera is vertical or horizontal. There is some play on the A-mount in my copy, but rotational only, so no wobble.

I gave distortion a 5 since I've simply never seen any with this lens, but I didn't look or measure for that so it might be there.
reviews found: 5   

rating summary

lens image
  • total reviews: 5
  • sharpness: 4.00
  • color: 4.60
  • build: 5.00
  • distortion: 4.40
  • flare control: 4.00
  • overall: 4.40

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