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    Posted: 04 March 2020 at 11:03
hello, fellow dyxumers!

It's been quite a while since my last post here. I very rarely go out with my A77II anymore. Simply a question of lack of time.

Today I come with a completely different topic. It's a linguistic question actually.

I read off cnn.com

Joe Biden's South Carolina rout sends a warning to Bernie Sanders

I looked up 'rout' on websters.com and I find it a bit contradictory to the cnn headline. As I understand it, rout means something like a defeat ,yet Biden came out victorious in SC. For him and his campaign, it is a victory, not a defeat.

Can anybody enlighten me here please?

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It is being used in the verb sense of to rout. It is not a word I have ever heard used in real life. It is not used accurately here.

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"Rout" - typically, in the U.S., means a one-sided victory. As in: "It was a rout; my team won the basketball game 86-38."
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Hi,

In English it is actually grammatically correct: you can be subject to a Rout (ie you can be driven from a battlefield by being overrun/overwhelmed by the opposition), or it can be used as it is here, where one person or group has an overwhelming advantage such that they inflict a rout on the opposition (ie 'the 49'ers rout of the other team sent a warning out to the rest of the Division')

I agree it's a little odd phraseology to use in this context - I think they are just trying to emphasis that JB's perfomance was, in this case, an overwhelming message to the other contenders.

Does that help any? And I'm not going into the political debate in any shape of form!

Thanks and best regards, Neil.
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Also - exactly what Roger said above!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jpena Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2020 at 12:19
Thanks all.

Certainly it seems webster.com needs updating its definition of 'rout'. I cannot see anything on the page that jibes with the meaning in the sentence.

anyhow, I now know something I did not earlier.

Again, thanks,
 



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It's a "weasel" word. It allows spin and click bait.
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Headline writers have an annoying propensity to chose words according to their length rather than their aptness. Still, if you're a fan of brevity, the Sun newspaper manages some quite amusing ones
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