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Originally posted by CTYankee CTYankee wrote:

Syber ... Michael Hohner got hold of the A200 manual (posted a link somewhere ... on the Sony site, I believe) and verified that it does not have DOF preview.

Found the post and the manual, thanks. Jeez - add some nice features and remove a few other important ones. That was a favorite tactic of our old friends at Minolta, too. :(
 



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Mmm... I don't really know how LV works on Canikons but... my H1 had a nice feature: it allowed zooming in on a selected area for more precise "manual" focusing. Darn! I sold it a year ago and I can't remember exactly how that worked...
I wonder if that's possible with the current LV systems (or this "upcoming" one)
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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:


add some nice features and remove a few other important ones. That was a favorite tactic of our old friends at Minolta, too. :(

Yes, but the problem is that Sony is doing things faster (especially second ones) :)
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Originally posted by cezarL cezarL wrote:

Mmm... I don't really know how LV works on Canikons but... my H1 had a nice feature: it allowed zooming in on a selected area for more precise "manual" focusing. Darn! I sold it a year ago and I can't remember exactly how that worked...
I wonder if that's possible with the current LV systems (or this "upcoming" one)


Thats already possible with the Canikon ones. There is a video of it in action on the DPR D300 preview.
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

Originally posted by cezarL cezarL wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, but that area is photoshopped just to hide the camera name (A300?)

Yes and no .. now go figure

My bet is the semi-spotted A200 Ultra.
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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

That was a favorite tactic of our old friends at Minolta, too. :(

Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

Yes, but the problem is that Sony is doing things faster (especially second ones) :)

I was mostly thinking back to the prehistoric days of manual focus film SLRs. Every time Minolta made a generational update to newer technology (XK/M > XD > X700), other important things that the older cameras had were taken away. Oh well...
 



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OK... I've taken a closer look at the images of this new model (I'll call it A-LV to make it easier in comparisons). I want to highlight a couple of things, think it's better with pictures:

- the viewfinder is different between the two models (A200 to the left, A-LV to the right)

      

Notice the A-LV has a small... protuberance right under the flashfoot, while A200 doesn't. Does this mean it's a different VF system, or just a cosmetic gimmick? (I doubt the latter, it would be pointless)

- the grip is different as well (same as before, A200 in the left corner, A-LV in the right one)

      

Not sure whether this is good or bad, I like the A100 grip (A200 has a similar one).

- a third button on the top plate on A-LV (no pic needed, it can be clearly seen on the original). I wonder what that's for?

- and...is it just me, or do the materials look different on the two cameras?


PS-sorry for the size discrepancies, I was in a hurry and I uploaded them at the original sizes, didn't bother to check resolutions, but I think they should all do fine

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Originally posted by Elgsdyr Elgsdyr wrote:

My bet is the semi-spotted A200 Ultra.
Good call. That makes a lot of sense and ties up well with the other snippets of rumour floating about.

I will have to adapt my naming scheme... A700, A700 Ultra, A200, A200 Ultra, A900, A900 Ultra, A500, A500 Ultra etc

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Mmmm yup, version with live view as a200 Ultra rather than a300, that's interesting. OTOH on dpreview the flip screen pic was mentioned as showing the a500 if I'm right... that'd be impressive if they doubled up the lineup this way though!
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I'm not saying you're wrong about A200Ultra but.... aaargh that's an ugly name :)

Now... who's willing to bet that whenever this camera comes out, most "reviewers" will have the LV pinned down on the "con-s" list, because it's just tilt, not tilt & swivel? :))
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Originally posted by harveyzone harveyzone wrote:

Originally posted by Elgsdyr Elgsdyr wrote:

My bet is the semi-spotted A200 Ultra.
Good call. That makes a lot of sense and ties up well with the other snippets of rumour floating about.

I will have to adapt my naming scheme... A700, A700 Ultra, A200, A200 Ultra, A900, A900 Ultra, A500, A500 Ultra etc


Assuming Kiklop knows the real name, and from the fact that the forum is now renamed to "Alpha 200/***/***", I doubt the camera name is Alpha 200 Ultra. Just a thought
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arhhh thanks for spotting the grip difference... kept thinking something didnt look 'right' in the original pic and thats it!

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Well... Kiklop once mentioned A200/A300/A350 in another thread. A200 is out, and he dismissed my A300 hint. That leaves us with... A350?


(this is hit or miss, as Mladen himself said at the time that he wasn't 100% sure about the names, if I remember correctly)
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cezarL, interesting bit about the grip. I wonder why they would modify the grip for this camera. Could it have something to do with easier handling with live view? iirc all other minolta/sony dslr's hava had the A200 style grip.
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