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DaveK
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:17 | ||||
Is this thread growing fast!!!!
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TallPaul
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:20 | ||||
A700 Mk2 will have more pixels, released in 2 days? Seriously though, pixels do not the image make. If its a 14MP CCD then perhaps the performance of the A700 is above the new model, regardless of the number of pixels on the packet. For those sweeping that website, don't forget you need to use different letters as well as numbers, my money is still on A900 at PMA.... |
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TallPaul
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:24 | ||||
Its no good saying "must do" now, in the hope Sony are listening, with two days to go... either there's something in the cabinet or there's not! |
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colmo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:25 | ||||
The K20d doesn't have a street price yet, because it isn't available (at least not in the UK - Edit: Just found it on Jessops and other sites - L899 is bonkers pricing by Pentax). Actually, the camera I'll be watching for is the Samsung clone, the GX20. I recommended the GX10 to a number of people because it was such a bargain for a long time. The body-only a700 has a UK street price of L700+, and I expect the Samsung twin-lens kit to be L600, just as the GX10 was. The Sony and Pentax/Samsung aren't in the same class, nor do I expect them to live in the same price bracket. Edited by colmo - 28 January 2008 at 21:29 |
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Winwalloe
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:26 | ||||
I only realize now that the A-300K is not a kit with A-300 + kit lens.
Weird but well... |
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macrophoto
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:35 | ||||
What I can't understand is the large number of different sensors made.
We know that the development costs ( incl. tooling) for a new sensors is very expensive and everybody aims at economy of scale. Sony seems to produce 5 sensors for brand new products: ccd 10 mp, ccd 14 mp, cmos 12 mp, cmos 12 mp (FF in the D3) and cmos 20+ mp FF for A900 |
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Two_truths
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:35 | ||||
GX-20's RRP is L700.
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Two_truths
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:45 | ||||
Sony and Canon are remaining pretty level, they have just made more advanced sensors with more megapixels. Sony 2006ish: 6MP APS-C CMOS, 10MP "R1" CMOS, 10MP APS-C CCD, 12MP "D2X" CMOS Sony 2008ish: 10MP APS-C CCD, 12MP APS-C CMOS, 14MP APS-C CCD, ??MP FF CMOS Canon 2006ish: 8MP APS-C CMOS, 10MP APS-C CMOS, 8MP APS-H CMOS, 12MP FF CMOS, 17MP FF CMOS Canon 2008ish: 10MP APS-C CMOS, 12MP APS-C CMOS, 10MP APS-H CMOS, ??MP FF CMOS, 21MP FF CMOS The real differences is the additions of Nikon and Pentax/Samsung... Nikon 2006ish: 4MP APS-C JFET Nikon 2008ish: 12MP FF CMOS Pentax/Samsung 2008ish: 14MP APS-C CMOS Edited by Two_truths - 28 January 2008 at 21:46 |
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m.b.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:45 | ||||
simple fact, that the thread has been moved here, shows, that the new cameras don't even deserve a new sub forum :))
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douglasf13
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:46 | ||||
In the US, I believe the price difference between the K10 and GX10 was about $100 US.
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CTYankee
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:47 | ||||
Yes, but economies of scale work the other way, too ... put two different sensors in what's basically the same camera and you have two different models for the cost of sensor development.
That's an update of an old sensor and presumably Sony has made money selling it to Nikon and Pentax.
New, if true, probably same technology as 10.2 so not a lot of research.
Do we know that Sony produces the sensor for the D3 ? In any event, Nikon designed the sensor and if not manufacturing it themselves, is paying Sony to manufacture it. I'm sure their chip division is happy to take on any new work !
Guess if you want enough models to compete with everyone else, you need the sensors to differentiate them; at least, unlike Canon, Sony is able to sell sensors to competitors (of course, without those sales, they wouldn't have the kind of production that Canon does). |
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macrophoto
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 21:59 | ||||
I think you are right .... I was talking about one single Sony ...
In reality we see a sensor company and a camera company under the Sony brand |
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Pekka L
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 22:09 | ||||
Hmmm... the way I would read Kiklops hint,
would be: he knows a900 will have a huge load of mp's stacked on it's sensor! |
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kiklop
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 January 2008 at 22:11 | ||||
LOL .. and you replied to me earlier that it was not funny :) |
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