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jeditim ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 16 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 376 |
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There was also an update to Chapter 7 several months ago...if anyone purchased the book they should also request this...I received it directly from Gary via PDF.
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Maxxum 7D and 7 (can't remember last time used); Minolta Lenses 24-105mm f:3.5-4.5 (D), 50mm f:1.4, 85MM f:1.4, 100 f:2.8 Macro(D), 100-400 f:4.5-6.7 APO Minolta Flash: 5600 HS (D)
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Mink ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08 December 2005 Country: South Africa Location: Cape Town Status: Offline Posts: 1228 |
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I agree with Cameron. I had already worked through the manuals of both the 5D and 7D before I got Gary Friedman's book. It took me a whole evening to read it and, although I enjoyed it, I didn't feel I learned very much new. Even his good exposition on the use of wireless flash was not entirely new - I mastered this system some years ago with my 7xi/5400xi setup.
On the other hand, this book is perfect for my wife, who has no patience for cryptic manuals but wants to be able to use the 5D when we go travelling (does that sound sexist - it isn't meant to - she's a great photographer, but very impatient with new stuff..) I think there's a gap (or, perhaps, that there would have been a gap if KM was still in business!) for a more advanced technical book on the 'science' of the KM system - not necessarily fun to read, but which answers all the questions likely to come up as you progress with the system. Still, I suppose that's why we have this forum! Maybe you guys should think of compiling something which we can download to our PDAs - there's heaps of material in your archives, and lots of techies among your members to peer-review it! Maybe you could even make some money :-) Edited by Mink - 21 March 2006 at 20:14 |
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ajm80031 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 22 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 105 |
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Okay, I haven't gotten an email about the update (purchased a physical book through Lulu) so I sent an email to the address on Gary's main page. Hopefully that was the right place to send it.
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Saratoga ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 18 September 2005 Country: United Kingdom Location: Midlands UK Status: Offline Posts: 1034 |
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If you ask GF nicely I am sure he will put the contents of the email either here or on his website but without the relevant link ;)
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ex-KM5D, Sony A700, A55, A77ii Coventry UK. CovLtwt Flickr
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Kevint ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 30 October 2005 Country: United Kingdom Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 36 |
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I didn't post the link as I wasn't sure whether the update was only for paying customers - I think Gary e-mailed all those that have purchased.
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lustron ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 01 March 2006 Country: United States Location: New York Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
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here's the link (he sent an email)
(deleted by Brettania -- if you have purchased the book and not received the appendix, then email Gary) Edited by brettania - 20 March 2006 at 16:40 |
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ajm80031 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 22 November 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 105 |
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How did you guys receive the update? I don't see anything about it listed on Gary's page about the book. As a buyer of the hard copy book should I have gotten some sort of notification?
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lustron ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 01 March 2006 Country: United States Location: New York Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
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The appendix B "update" is another reason to own the Friedman book. While his cover email didn't bring us any startling news, he is obviously keeping close tabs on the KM - Sony situation. Considering his contacts, he's probably one of the more reliable sources of info.
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Kevint ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 30 October 2005 Country: United Kingdom Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 36 |
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Just got the new Appendix B - thanks Gary. It's a quick reference of guidelines for special shooting situations covering fireworks, waterfalls, concerts, nightime, snow, outdoor portraits, street, sunsets, moon, nightime sports, christmas lights, candlelight and how to get the best results without computer manipulation. Simple reference with lots of good information. Kevin Edited by Kevint - 20 March 2006 at 14:21 |
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lustron ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 01 March 2006 Country: United States Location: New York Status: Offline Posts: 44 |
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the Friedman book is truly a bargain, $20 USD for a full color download that you can read on your computer or print out as you see fit. In view of the considerable investment everyone here has made in cameras and equipment, this is a trivial expense regardless of how much or how little you get out of it. And as for an earlier concern someone had about Mr. Friedman's boosterism for KM, I would suggest that it is his enthusiasm that separates his book from the host of impersonal guides and tutorials that abound.
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jeditim ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 16 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 376 |
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Cameron, I think the above summarizes it the best. I previously had a Magic Lantern Guide for my 7xi and it was a waste of money. It was almost exactly what was written in the camera manual. If you read the manual you do not need the guide. The Friedman book does not look to replace the manual and it tells you that in the first couple of pages. What it does is explain some of the functions and their use to the photographer in an easy to understand format. I liked the book and have read it twice...however, as you said, experimenting would in itself give you a lot of information. Tim |
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Maxxum 7D and 7 (can't remember last time used); Minolta Lenses 24-105mm f:3.5-4.5 (D), 50mm f:1.4, 85MM f:1.4, 100 f:2.8 Macro(D), 100-400 f:4.5-6.7 APO Minolta Flash: 5600 HS (D)
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brettania ![]() Admin Group ![]() Dyxum factotum Joined: 17 July 2005 Country: New Zealand Location: Auckland Status: Offline Posts: 20650 |
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John
Forget the Magic Lantern Guide -- it was written, most believe, without any hands on at all and appears to be a rough and at times inaccurate rehash of the manual. Not to belittle Friendman's book, in the broader scheme it remains a guide most useful to people who have either little SLR or digtital experience. And that is what it was intended to be and does very, very well. If you want to get into things in more detail, you will have to buy lots of books and they won't be brand specific. It is my belief that Friedman explains as much as you really need to know about the principles of AS and ZM -- the rest can be figured by referencing against your own use of those facilities and, as you say, from websites such as this. Remember there's not much cost involved in experimenting. Friedman writes in a pleasant, conversational style and illustrates what he talks about in a very good way. Edited by brettania - 15 March 2006 at 07:21 |
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wheatridger ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 17 February 2006 Location: Colorado Status: Offline Posts: 374 |
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There's much I need to learn about the 7D, and I might buy a book to lead the way. There seem to be at least two choices. How does Gary's book compare to the Magic Lantern Guide? Class, compare and contrast.
What I wouldn't want to spend money on is page after page of basic information that explains how Aperture Priority works, or how to set the self-timer (as I saw in other Magic Lantern Guides). For me, there are several magic/mystery features on the KM Ds that are completely unique, and poorly documented. AntiShake and Zone Matching are my biggest realms of uncertainty. I'm appreciate as many details and results on these camera-specific features as possible, but from Gary's contents table, they seem to get no more ink than most features and settings that are shared with other cameras. So far, my alternative to buying these books has been to scan the archives here and at dpreview on topics of interest. That gives a democratic, grassroots perspective that I enjoy, with a few bad answers thrown in with the good. Given the cost of printer supplies, I'll probably spend as much as buying the book. |
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Yes, I've gone digital. But I'm still not sure about this autofocus gimmick...
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jeditim ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 16 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 376 |
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I guess I didn't notice the Minolta cherrleading as I am a believer in Minolta gear as well :) |
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Maxxum 7D and 7 (can't remember last time used); Minolta Lenses 24-105mm f:3.5-4.5 (D), 50mm f:1.4, 85MM f:1.4, 100 f:2.8 Macro(D), 100-400 f:4.5-6.7 APO Minolta Flash: 5600 HS (D)
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