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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I recently bought an A99ii for £1500 and am very pleased with it and my old Minolta glass. For me too it is about cost - E mount is ruled out because of the cost of lenses. I expect A mount to last me for some years yet.

Lens costs argue against A-mount bodies for me. Sony FE lenses don't cost more than Sony A-mount lenses. Many Minolta lenses are overvalued. So many other lenses work well on A7 bodies. I will continue buying A-mount lenses if I think they are good deals. I am trying to buy one of the last A-mount lenses right now.

I like using the A7II more than my A77II. It probably make sense to invest in more native lenses.



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Originally posted by arj arj wrote:

Is the A-mount dead? Which means - will Sony release any new cameras, lenses for the A mount or no?

Those who are willing to answer do not actually know at this time.

Those who actually know are not willing to answer at this time.

Try again later.
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Obviously the lens cost depends on what folks are after.

But still big bargains can be had. I think a fellow forum member recently moved to e-mount and had his lenses in external sales section. Some the prices were jaw dropping bargains!

Also for people already owning a bunch of a-mount lenses it'll be very expensive to move.
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Good deal Fred, I'm sure I would also be tempted by such an offer. Now the search for lenses from a much bigger pool can continue
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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Good deal Fred, I'm sure I would also be tempted by such an offer. Now the search for lenses from a much bigger pool can continue

That's the inherent risk of today's decision indeed
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Post Options Post Options   Quote whiteheat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2019 at 22:03
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by arj arj wrote:

Is the A-mount dead? Which means - will Sony release any new cameras, lenses for the A mount or no?

Those who are willing to answer do not actually know at this time.

Those who actually know are not willing to answer at this time.

Try again later.
Haha! Great statement. However, only partially true.

Correct, those willing to answer do not precisely or categorically know with 100% incontrovertible certainty. Part of the problem is that we have nowhere defined what we mean by "dead" other than no new A mount products being launched or to be launched. Additionally, there may never be a way to categorically know with 100% certainty. The only way everyone could know for sure would be if Sony actually made a statement to that affect. Therein lies the problem. What if Sony never actually makes any such statement. Would we be still conjecturing in 20XX (pick a your future year) as to whether A mount was "dead" if Sony makes no statement to that affect. This would not be the first time a company has let a product line die without making an affirmation statement.

As to the second part of the statement - "those who actually know are not willing to answer at this time", that is also conjecture. There may not be anybody who knows with 100% certainty whether A mount is "dead". Not even Sony - but I doubt that even myself. Further, those that "know", are not likely to be reading this thread, so wouldn't answer in any case.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2019 at 22:12
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by arj arj wrote:

Is the A-mount dead? Which means - will Sony release any new cameras, lenses for the A mount or no?

Those who are willing to answer do not actually know at this time.

Those who actually know are not willing to answer at this time.

Try again later.


I would add:

Those that are supposed to know say it isn't dead, but are unwilling to define what that means or say when new products can be expected.

Other question, does anybody know or have data (I'm not interested in speculations) if the current A-mount cameras and lenses are still being produced or that they are just selling from stock?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2019 at 22:25
Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by arj arj wrote:

Is the A-mount dead? Which means - will Sony release any new cameras, lenses for the A mount or no?

Those who are willing to answer do not actually know at this time.

Those who actually know are not willing to answer at this time.

Try again later.


I would add:

Those that are supposed to know say it isn't dead, but are unwilling to define what that means or say when new products can be expected.

Other question, does anybody know or have data (I'm not interested in speculations) if the current A-mount cameras and lenses are still being produced or that they are just selling from stock?


The Sony rep I spoke to at the Goodwood event in UK told me a-mount bodies and lenses are meeting current customer demands and it doesn't matter if they were from stock or new production as long as supply met the demands (paraphrased by me from our exchange of multiple questions and answers).

Now I know that's not what you are after but certainly the kind of answer you can expect from official sources. You could see it as dodging the question but that's up to you, how you read it

Funnily enough the conversation actually started off with me asking why A7 were still "current" and if they were actually being actively produced or just stocks being cleared. This led onto a-mount.
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Moribund: adjetive-
of a thing in terminal decline: lacking vitality or vigor.

The Sony A mount is more correctly defined as moribund, rather than dead.Or, as the old guy in Monty Pyton"s Holy Grail saidl "I am not yet dead!". Until his son hits him over the head with a shovel. Sony's picking out a shovel, just hasn't swung it yet.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I recently bought an A99ii for £1500 and am very pleased with it and my old Minolta glass. For me too it is about cost - E mount is ruled out because of the cost of lenses. I expect A mount to last me for some years yet.

That's a great deal. I also suspect that it wasn't retail.
There in lays the problem of A-Mount for Sony, all that ok glass on the secondary market that they're not getting a piece of. I think Sony honored their obligation to Minolta lens owners through the release of digital platforms up to the very current A99II.
I personally, don't expect to be moving to E-Mount to help with their revenue stream.
A-Mount is dead, long live A-mount!

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Originally posted by whiteheat whiteheat wrote:

Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by arj arj wrote:

Is the A-mount dead? Which means - will Sony release any new cameras, lenses for the A mount or no?

Those who are willing to answer do not actually know at this time.

Those who actually know are not willing to answer at this time.

Try again later.
Haha! Great statement. However, only partially true.

Correct, those willing to answer do not precisely or categorically know with 100% incontrovertible certainty. Part of the problem is that we have nowhere defined what we mean by "dead" other than no new A mount products being launched or to be launched. Additionally, there may never be a way to categorically know with 100% certainty. The only way everyone could know for sure would be if Sony actually made a statement to that affect. Therein lies the problem. What if Sony never actually makes any such statement. Would we be still conjecturing in 20XX (pick a your future year) as to whether A mount was "dead" if Sony makes no statement to that affect. This would not be the first time a company has let a product line die without making an affirmation statement.

As to the second part of the statement - "those who actually know are not willing to answer at this time", that is also conjecture. There may not be anybody who knows with 100% certainty whether A mount is "dead". Not even Sony - but I doubt that even myself. Further, those that "know", are not likely to be reading this thread, so wouldn't answer in any case.

I guess you'll take the time to disagree with almost anything. Whatever.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:

It has officially gone from the NZ market. I know this probably counts for little on the global scheme of things, but if I want anything A-mount now I have to prepay (no refunds) and order it shipped here.
Sony NZ/Australia does not seem the most customer oriented Sony importer.....



Almost. Australia was always poorly served. NZ had pretty good support, and has an excellent major repair place (Phototronic in Palmerston North) continuing from their Minolta days.

So I was somewhat more perturbed to learn it'd been dropped from the NZ market rather than the Australian. I do intend keeping using alpha gear I do have for a long time, and if the longevity of my a900 was any guide, that could be quite a long time indeed.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I recently bought an A99ii for £1500 and am very pleased with it and my old Minolta glass. For me too it is about cost - E mount is ruled out because of the cost of lenses. I expect A mount to last me for some years yet.

That's a great deal. I also suspect that it wasn't retail.
There in lays the problem of A-Mount for Sony, all that ok glass on the secondary market that they're not getting a piece of. I think Sony honored their obligation to Minolta lens owners through the release of digital platforms up to the very current A99II.
I personally, don't expect to be moving to E-Mount to help with their revenue stream.
A-Mount is dead, long live A-mount!


You're quite right, it was second-hand with about 20K shots - and money back guarantee if not satisfied. I am keeping it! It replaces my A900, which I bought second hand about a year ago but was never really happy with - past experience with EVF had soured me to OVFs. I always felt the A900 was an alternative to my A77 when I really needed FF - now the A77 is the alternative to the A99ii if I really need APS-C, I am even using APS-C lenses on the A99ii. All of which is irrelevant to the survival, or not, of the A mount.

Perhaps Sony are driven by sales of lenses as you suggest, but I suspect they would still sell top class A mount glass if they continued to make it. And a new body or two incorporating the new sensor/processing technologies every couple of years might boost sales (if they don't make new stuff they shouldn't be surprised that sales are dropping). In essence Sony are killing the A mount through their inactivity - while pretending it is still alive in order to clear their back stock.


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If A-mount goes the way other things I've watched, the s/h camera and lens market will be dominated by collectors. All the rare & desirable lenses will go up in price steadily* while the common ones lose almost all value. There will be a brief period when exotics are available at more-or-less affordable prices and then they will rise again with lots of articles in the photo press about collecting and using old A-mount.
So, if you want that white Minolta lens, don't leave it too long ...

* because collectors want one of everything the manufacturer made. Prices of the rarest items then go on rising until those who used them the first time round die off. That's happening to Hornby Dublo and Wrenn model trains now, so guess another 30 years should do it for A-mount.
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