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But collectors are very keen on "like new" condition or better.
Personally I'll be happy to get that white coated Minolta lens with a scratch or two on the barrel as long as the price is right.
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Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

But collectors are very keen on "like new" condition or better.
Personally I'll be happy to get that white coated Minolta lens with a scratch or two on the barrel as long as the price is right.


Well exactly... my kit has always rather been for practical use rather than looks (just as well as I've shot with a Dynax 800si and an Alpha a99 - neither of which are renowned for their beauty..)

Given the amount of old manual focus lenses I have knocking around, I'm a good candidate for some well-loved Minolta screw-drive optics - regardless of what camera they are used on.
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I don't see the A-mount as dead neither.
But as someone said Sony is killing it by not promoting nor giving news about it.

OTOH it is active because WE are using it.
Personally the A99ii is more of a camera than I need. I have recently added a tamron 15-30/2.8 to my kit and I'm more than pleased.
Since a bit more than half of a year I'm following jose Ramos a landscape photographer and the craft is delivering out of its A77m2 is inspirational.

I will go full mirrorless once Panasonic L-mount will have the proper and expensive lenses. Until then my A-mount will continue to deliver all I need/want.

Keep in mind: Craft (80%) > Gear(20%)

EDIT: Sony is doing a very good job at hype marketing the E-mount.
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Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:

I don't see the A-mount as dead neither.
But as someone said Sony is killing it by not promoting nor giving news about it.

OTOH it is active because WE are using it.
Personally the A99ii is more of a camera than I need. I have recently added a tamron 15-30/2.8 to my kit and I'm more than pleased.
Since a bit more than half of a year I'm following jose Ramos a landscape photographer and the craft is delivering out of its A77m2 is inspirational.

I will go full mirrorless once Panasonic L-mount will have the proper and expensive lenses. Until then my A-mount will continue to deliver all I need/want.

Keep in mind: Craft (80%) > Gear(20%)

EDIT: Sony is doing a very good job at hype marketing the E-mount.


I know Jose quite well, last time I spoke with him he was using an A7R. He used to be a frequent poster on dpreview.
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:

I don't see the A-mount as dead neither.
But as someone said Sony is killing it by not promoting nor giving news about it.

OTOH it is active because WE are using it.
Personally the A99ii is more of a camera than I need. I have recently added a tamron 15-30/2.8 to my kit and I'm more than pleased.
Since a bit more than half of a year I'm following jose Ramos a landscape photographer and the craft is delivering out of its A77m2 is inspirational.

I will go full mirrorless once Panasonic L-mount will have the proper and expensive lenses. Until then my A-mount will continue to deliver all I need/want.

Keep in mind: Craft (80%) > Gear(20%)

EDIT: Sony is doing a very good job at hype marketing the E-mount.


I know Jose quite well, last time I spoke with him he was using an A7R. He used to be a frequent poster on dpreview.


Probably he's using currently emount or smartphone hehe. Still he's continuing to post his craft done by A77ii and it's just awesome. Looking at it is always a pleasure :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2019 at 09:59
Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:


Probably he's using currently emount or smartphone hehe. Still he's continuing to post his craft done by A77ii and it's just awesome. Looking at it is always a pleasure :)


haha! phones have gotten far these days. Make a filter holder for them and he might well use them

I mostly dislike filters and especially square filters and ND grads. he loves them. But can't argue with this results though
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:


Probably he's using currently emount or smartphone hehe. Still he's continuing to post his craft done by A77ii and it's just awesome. Looking at it is always a pleasure :)


haha! phones have gotten far these days. Make a filter holder for them and he might well use them

I mostly dislike filters and especially square filters and ND grads. he loves them. But can't argue with this results though

Very recently he has used a huawei phone during his trips because huawei ordered him some shots for the press presentation of their new smartphone line.
Ended up pretty well without filters hehe.
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

If Techart can produce an adapter with AF (no pellicle mirror) for manual focus Leica-M lenses on E-mount bodies why should a mirrorless adapter for screw-drive A-mount lenses be impossible? And since my images taken with the A99M2 are really sharp why would the same screw-driven lens not equally sharpen up mounted to a smart adapter? It obviously works with Leica-M (and a host of other manual lenses adapted to Leica-M).

I wonder whether the day will come when a third party brand (Techart, Fringer, Metabones) will take up the task to create the LA-EA5 adapter that Sony will never provide us with. There are now such exotic adapters like Contax 645 lenses to E-mount with AF.

BTW: Will Nikon and Canon frustrate their DSLR customers in the same way Sony did? Any signs for that?

I definetely would be interested in buying an LA-EA5 adapter, if it is capable enough to equal the A68 focussing capabilities on E-mount, if it comes from Tachart or Metabones or even Zonghui
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



Perhaps Sony are driven by sales of lenses as you suggest, but I suspect they would still sell top class A mount glass if they continued to make it. And a new body or two incorporating the new sensor/processing technologies every couple of years might boost sales (if they don't make new stuff they shouldn't be surprised that sales are dropping). In essence Sony are killing the A mount through their inactivity - while pretending it is still alive in order to clear their back stock.


Unfortunately, I doubt they would sell more top class lenses. One of the most cited negatives in the Dyxum lens database for the good Sony A-Mount lenses (eg. Sony 70-200mm f2.8 G SSM II) is price.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



Perhaps Sony are driven by sales of lenses as you suggest, but I suspect they would still sell top class A mount glass if they continued to make it. And a new body or two incorporating the new sensor/processing technologies every couple of years might boost sales (if they don't make new stuff they shouldn't be surprised that sales are dropping). In essence Sony are killing the A mount through their inactivity - while pretending it is still alive in order to clear their back stock.


Unfortunately, I doubt they would sell more top class lenses. One of the most cited negatives in the Dyxum lens database for the good Sony A-Mount lenses (eg. Sony 70-200mm f2.8 G SSM II) is price.


And the most cited negative for Sony E mount is the cost of good glass. They do seem keen on pricing themselves out of the market.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



Perhaps Sony are driven by sales of lenses as you suggest, but I suspect they would still sell top class A mount glass if they continued to make it. And a new body or two incorporating the new sensor/processing technologies every couple of years might boost sales (if they don't make new stuff they shouldn't be surprised that sales are dropping). In essence Sony are killing the A mount through their inactivity - while pretending it is still alive in order to clear their back stock.


Unfortunately, I doubt they would sell more top class lenses. One of the most cited negatives in the Dyxum lens database for the good Sony A-Mount lenses (eg. Sony 70-200mm f2.8 G SSM II) is price.


And the most cited negative for Sony E mount is the cost of good glass. They do seem keen on pricing themselves out of the market.


That has been proven a fallacy many times.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



And the most cited negative for Sony E mount is the cost of good glass. They do seem keen on pricing themselves out of the market.


Sony has always been at the high end of the price scale when it comes to consumer electronics, especially when it is cutting edge at the time of development (see Betamax and Walkman for examples). That is simply the price of admission when you buy into their systems. Does the high price always reflect top of the line quality? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. What it does reflect is an ability to charge the market what they think it will pay. Over time, consumers either find and alternative (see Betamax vs. VHS), pay the price (Walkman) or wait for a viable, less expensive alternative. I'll step down from my soap box now.
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Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



Perhaps Sony are driven by sales of lenses as you suggest, but I suspect they would still sell top class A mount glass if they continued to make it. And a new body or two incorporating the new sensor/processing technologies every couple of years might boost sales (if they don't make new stuff they shouldn't be surprised that sales are dropping). In essence Sony are killing the A mount through their inactivity - while pretending it is still alive in order to clear their back stock.


Unfortunately, I doubt they would sell more top class lenses. One of the most cited negatives in the Dyxum lens database for the good Sony A-Mount lenses (eg. Sony 70-200mm f2.8 G SSM II) is price.


And the most cited negative for Sony E mount is the cost of good glass. They do seem keen on pricing themselves out of the market.


That has been proven a fallacy many times.


For example Canon RFs

Canon 70-200/2.8: $2,699
Canon 24-70/2.8 $2,299
Canon 15-35/2.8: $2,299

Sony FE (GMs)

Sony 70-200/2.8: $2,598
Sony 24-70/2.8: $2,198
Sony 16-35/2.8: $2,198

prices from B&H

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I wonder if my EF lenses would work better on an EOS R than an A7III. It would be nice if Sony could improve adapted AF performance.

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