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    Posted: 31 May 2022 at 16:47
I've changed my mind about PO. No, not the ferry company and their outrageous treatment of staff, but the YouTube channel Photography Online. A couple of years ago I praised their first few videos here as a very polished production that promised to be a regular watch.

Now, after a couple of years of, initially weekly and later fortnightly programmes, the same small group have pretty well exhaused most photography topics and as they use their own equipment and favour Canikon, they have always been quite dismissive of Sony products. In the latest episode however the lead presenter, Marcus Mcadam, carried out a "scientific" comparison of what they considered the king of detail; the Canon 5Dsr (his personal camera) against the Sony a7riv, due apparently to overwhelming requests.

It was immediately obvious that Marcus had little but contempt for the Sony and he made a real pantomime of trying to magnify the image in the viewfinder, declaring it impossible by pressing the AF-ON button because it had a "little magnifying glass next to it", and nothing happened! He refused to press the trashcan button (which, as the menu clearly shows, would have provided an explanation for each control and setting), because he doesn't like pressing delete buttons and he ended up using the Sony in auto focus with his Canon in manual. They both were fitted with same spec Sigma lenses.

After the broadcast I read some of the comments and numerous people made reference to his lack of knowledge about the Sony and explained the focus magnifier feature but when one suggested he could have spent a few moments familiarising himself with the camera before attempting a comparison test his responses was, "You shouldn’t have to. Cameras should be intuitive. No other camera we’ve ever had has been that difficult to figure out."

Amazingly, at the end of the section he grudgingly acknowledged the Sony was the better camera for image resolution!

Rant over, but I have grown increasingly less impressed with the presentation that I think PO and I will go our separate ways.

Anyone else watch it?


Edit: In the interest of presenting both sides of the argument, here is the link to the episode.



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Yes, I saw that. It was cringy.

Never used magnification on my Canon EOS R. Tried to set magnification without looking up how to do it wasn't able to do it. Looked up a video, looked up a description and I finally I was able to set it.

This is how you have to do it:
In the menu you need to go to "AF" and select "Lens Electronic MF" then select "One-Shot>enabled (magnify)" and select it.
Then, if you want to use is, you have to first use the Magnifying button and then use the "OK" button.

I do not understand why I have to push two buttons to activate it.....

I said it here before, I find Sony's (old) menu easier to navigate then Canon's.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2022 at 16:23
I've been watching the Photography Online series since its first episode. It's well polished material, and the presenters provide mostly accurate info.

Yes, the 'meaty' educational stuff is in shorter supply these days, and that's probably inevitable. It's starting to feel more and more like other typical review channels.

Yes, Marcus is highly opinionated, and I think that's often intentionally played for laughs.

Yes, there have been factual mistakes made in some episodes, which is also probably inevitable. This is one to add to the list.

I personally don't reject a source or an individual for those things, but overall I'm noticeably less enthusiastic about the channel these days.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bonneville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2022 at 16:46
Agreed sybersitizen. Marcus is certainly highly opinionated and he is not my cup of tea but he did produce a laugh out loud section with his young daughter parodying youtube photographers the other week. And the laughable thing is their own sections of tramping up hills and camping in the wilderness to catch that one special shot contain the self same elements he was ridiculing, including the ridiculous B-roll footage of walking towards and then away from the camera when everyone knows that every time they have to stop and go back for it!

The program is, after all, simply an advertisement for the photography training centre and workshops Marcus co-owns in Skye called Mc2 Photography. I even considered exploring one of their guided workshops until I saw their prices . If they don't come up with some radical change of direction they are in great danger of running out of steam and going the same way as many other youtubers.

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As usually it's difficult to get someone to "understand" something, when their lively hood or self worth is tied up in "not understanding" something.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2022 at 20:30
Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

The program is, after all, simply an advertisement for the photography training centre and workshops Marcus co-owns in Skye called Mc2 Photography.
That is why the way he treats the Sony is so baffling. If you go to their centre with an Sony they are unable to work out how your camera works? I would go to another workshop.
I also find it at odds with the relatively high production quality.

If he had showed simply being confused, getting his phone out and looked it up- that would've been fine. Would have been more professional imho.
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