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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blue-Eyed Monkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2017 at 21:05
@Miranda F: Not that I remember, but it has unfortunately gone in for a week or so since!

There has finally been a bit of sunshine here, so I've managed to try another attempt. Tried to use the flash to balance the overexposed area at the front and eliminate some of the shadows.

Without flash: A65 with Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 @ 1/1000s f/2.8 ISO100 50mm


With external flash: A65 with Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 @ 1/160s f/8 ISO100 50mm
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2017 at 11:27
On the A58 I find I have to use -2EV flash to get fill-in looking natural much of the time, though the auto setting doesn't do a bad job.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blue-Eyed Monkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2017 at 13:17
Thanks for the tip Miranda. I'll give it a go!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blue-Eyed Monkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 August 2017 at 22:11
I'm not sure if the last effort was a pass but I've been out practising again anyway!


A65 with Minolta 50mm prime f1.7 @ 1/800s f/2.8 ISO100 50mm No flash


Same @ 1/160s f/9 ISO100 50mm with flash

I did meter at -2 as suggested by Miranda F, a lot happier with the results
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bms44974 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2017 at 01:23
@Blue-Eyed Monkey: Sorry for not commenting on your prior shot, Glen. I'm not sure how it slipped by me. It is the best of the three, but there are some obvious shadows from the flash that were not in the original. The assignment requirements are best met by using the same exposure settings as the non-flash version, but adding some manual flash to lighten the subject which may be backlit or in a shadow. You will probably do better with the subject further from the camera. There is a good example here.

Cheers... Brian

P.S. Looking forward to your next entry.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blue-Eyed Monkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2017 at 07:32
I've returned to the Grumpy Fairy!


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1/640s f/4 ISO100 28mm, No flash


1/160s f/10 ISO100 26mm, with internal flash


1/100s f/13 ISO100 28mm, with external flash


1/1600s f/2.8 ISO100 50mm, No flash


1/160s f/14 ISO100 50mm, with internal flash
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote bms44974 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 August 2017 at 11:15
@Blue-Eyed Monkey: Glen, The Grumpy Fairy is a great subject for this assignment, but it appears as though the camera is making adjustments to the shutter speed and aperture when the flash is engaged. You may need to take the non-flash shot, then switch to manual mode and apply the same shooting parameters and take the shot again setting flash mode to "Fill" and flash compensation to -2. You may also be able to use AE lock in this instance to keep the same exposure settings on both shots. I hope this works. If not, I'll just have to pass you based on your persistence and positive attitude.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blue-Eyed Monkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 August 2017 at 22:14
Oh, flash compensation not exposure compensation!
Thanks for all your time and advice, I am a complete novice at shooting with the flash so really appreciate the input. If the sun ever comes out again here I'll head out again...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blue-Eyed Monkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2017 at 15:59
Unfortunately, the sun seems to have given up on the South East of England, only making the odd guest appearance, so chances for this assignment have been rather limited. I did head out again yesterday in between clouds however and have got another attempt!


35mm 1/160s @ f/7.1 ISO100 with Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 - No flash


35mm 1/160s @ f/8 ISO100 with Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 - With external flash, compensation -2.0 to eliminate the shadows on the rocks.

PS. Please don't go easy on me - I've realised quite how little I know when it comes to flash photography and enjoy the learning! I actually managed to get some decent shots of my son's birthday with the morning light blazing through the window and the flash bouncing off the ceiling to balance it out, so I really do appreciate your advice.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bms44974 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2017 at 01:37
@Blue-Eyed Monkey: I think I would have rather seen the photos from the party , but you seem to have accomplished what is required. Now... on to your next assignment!

Cheers... Brian
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blue-Eyed Monkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 September 2017 at 07:12

You are right; not the most exciting subject but glad to get a pass at last!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2018 at 13:50
Okay, the last of the basic assignments - and I was determined not to use a portait - but had only the camera's flash. This proved to be a bit of a probem as it lacked power in some cases and resulted in glaring reflections in others.

However, it was VE Day here in France and the local war memorial was the centrepiece of a short remembrance ceremony this morning. So I decided to make my first submission using this memorial.

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Flash:


Both shots Sony A58, Tamron 16-300 @ 16mm, ISO 100, 1/125s, f13. No processing apart from resizing.

Edited by Phil Wood - 14 May 2018 at 10:04
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@Phil Wood: Another pass! Cheers... Brian
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2018 at 18:21

Thanks again Brian - though I feel I could have got a similar shot by switching DRO back on (without the lens shadow at the bottom).

I shall now look at the intermdiate assignments - one or two seem a bit tricky while I'm away from home and almost all of my gear, especially the first one.

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