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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Also from the same article:

This is an overexposed high key image. What makes it a high key image is the white background and pink and white clothing, NOT the overexposure.


So high key images can be overexposed, but fully agree that just overexposure will not yield a high key image.


Pieter, please note that this sentence states that what makes the photo high-key is not overexposure. In other words - it's just overexposed high-key photo.
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Originally posted by MiPr MiPr wrote:

Another problem is that your photo is overexposed - the high key photo must be exposed properly, i.e. skin tones should be normal. The key to high-key photography is to take a shot in light surroundings in bright light but the photo should be properly exposed.


MiPr, I think we are in agreement, but mainly reacted to your statement above, which I find a bit too limiting.

If we assume it are good pictures I would say the pass/try again criteria for this assignment are:

- normal exposed image ==> fail
- overexposed image ==> fail
- normal exposed high key image ==> pass
- overexposed high key image ==> pass

I know some people don't like the fourth category but I would like for judging this assignment to keep an open mind and allow these pictures to pass, of course only it's if it's a good picture with the right impact.
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Pieter, I agree with your criteria.

Maybe one more general comment - a thought that banged in my head after our discussion: high-key is not about the exposure at all and the concept of exposure should not be mixed in at all when talking about high-key. Let's take painters as an example: they create high-key paintings - just painting what they see using appropriate palette of paints - and they do not have any "exposure" in there. High-key is all about how the scene looks like (i.e. lighting, colors, tonality) and not how our cameras register the picture (i.e. exposure).

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second try... on my first one i had to crank the exposure because the background wasn't uniform (kitchen cabinet doors). For this one i tried to use snow as a background and direct sun for lighting. i'm not well equipped in lighting gear (onboard flash only...)

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Originally posted by MiPr MiPr wrote:

Alphatini, I think that your photo has nice composition. "Direct" eye contact really adds to the photo. That's pity her eyes are not tack sharp. Another problem is that your photo is overexposed - the high key photo must be exposed properly, i.e. skin tones should be normal. The key to high-key photography is to take a shot in light surroundings in bright light but the photo should be properly exposed.

For example imagine a bride in white wedding dress on some light background. On such photo you would like to get properly exposed face, hands, etc. And that would be classic high-key photo.



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i think i should have drink my coke before...
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Originally posted by alphatini alphatini wrote:

i think i should have drink my coke before...


Well said! Perhaps a lighter subject would work better for you. I do like your attitude about it. Cheers... Brian
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Originally posted by alphatini alphatini wrote:

i think i should have drink my coke before...

You know, when I saw you photo I thought "why didn't he use Sprite instead of Coke?"
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A trial at high key with some noodles.
I find high key to be quite hard to achieve, as either shadows detract from the high key, or the overall picture appears washed out. Remove all the shadows, and the subject ends up totally flat.

Lit by a window on the rear left, and a bounced flash is used to reduce shadows a bit on the front left. Looking at it, I think that it would probably have been better if I had used a reflector on the front.
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Alrighty... with all the snow out there I thought I would give this a try :)

What do you say?

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@ Gabriel

Sorry, but the noodles don't do it for me. I think you finger the problem in your own comment about shadows -- there's just too many of them. The shot actually looks "normally" exposed.

I will ask you to try again.


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little.lili, you are on the right track as far as high-key is regarded, but unfortunately your photo has a few deficiencies which cause that we would like you to redo that assignment.

Please note that your photo would be much better if the composition was not central and if the focus was right on dog's eyes. Additionally I think that you can improve overall look and feel by lowering the camera position - the principle is similar to that of shooting children and in particular toddlers - just get to their level, i.e. lay flat on your belly Well, in case of your dog it should be enough to duck.

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Alrighty (can you guys tell I have nothing better to do right now?)

I tried again, and I know the image doesn't need to be overexposed to be high key, but I thought this one came out fairly interesting. Pass? Fail? Other comments?
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Lili, I suggest you look for a lighter, low-contrast subject. Your dog's colors range from a very black nose to very white fur. Selecting a subject with a narrow range of light shades works best for high-key. Please try again. Cheers... Brian
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