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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 December 2009 at 22:09
Fair enough brettania. How does this one fly then? Taken yesterday in front of a group of people in a relatively small space, blocking their view of the group photographed. This was as close as I could get without interfering with the dancing the group of boys were doing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 December 2009 at 22:14
Well pegelli, I have to admit that outside of getting up earlier then I am usually accustomed to doing, it was only the uncomfortable position I needed to hold that was challenging, so I've posted another taken yesterday that I hope better adheres to the rules of the assignment. Please excuse my loose interpretation of the rules.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 December 2009 at 01:03
The Exif shows you were zoomed at 80mm which means you could have got in closer, unless you were using an 80-200.

I don't think I can give you a pass for this shot myself, so will defer to the Assignments-master (pegelli) for his judgement.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 December 2009 at 07:27
@JS, I went back to the rules, which say:

you will get closer to one of your frequent subjects. But the reason you didn't get closer before must be that either you are scared or embarrased in some way, or you haven't thought of going closer to that subject before. You will challenge yourself to get closer to it! I suggest you use wider lenses than usual to get fine compositions. Note that its forbidden to do cropping in PP. You have to compose only in the viewfinder!


So I think your description of not being able to get closer and therefore using a 80 mm lens is kind of the contrary of what the assignment is trying to achieve.

I do like the picture however, as somehow for me the mood comes through quite well. The motion blur adds to the joyous behaviour of the dancing boys, the backlight was handled well and the relatively sharp eyes of the front boy give the viewer an anchor.

As for the assignment, pls. come back and show us something so close that we can feel your challenge and discomfort while shooting it, but resulting is a nice picture
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 December 2009 at 18:40
pegelli, thanks for taking the time to comment on the photo. I will try again, though it may be awhile before I have the free time to get out with my camera again. I will also try to think about approaching my frequent subjects - even though landscapes are my most frequent - so I guess it'll be a challenge in all ways!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 December 2009 at 11:39
After reading what is the subject of this assignment I have exactly known what to shoot... For me the photos of people, not arranged, "real live" are the highest level... because it needs courage (aside of photography skills)... so for last maybe 14 days I struggled with myself "to shoot or not to shoot"
And yesterday I finaly asked this older man in the bus: "May I take o photo, please?"
And he didnīt beat me, he wasnīt angry... he was pleased and even tried to arrange his dog for me!
I found this exciting, but it really wasnīt easy... so, this is my attempt (and I know, it should be a lot better) of a real world photo.
(18/70 - 18 mm; f 3,5; ISO 3200)
My English... sorry, but... couldnīt we speak Czech? :)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 December 2009 at 07:04
I see where you're going with this kubuthor, but I don't think it's a pass yet. From your description it's closer than you normally shoot and are comfortable with so that's a good start. However I find the picture a bit soft and quite an off-balance composition (dark/light distribution) with several aspects of the dog cut by the border. I'm also missing the connection between the man and his dog. All these aspects make this more of a grap/snapshot and don't evoke any feeling of closeness (closer than normal) to me.

What could you have done differently to maybe improve the shot? First take more versions to see if you have a sharper one. Or go a lot lower so the dog is the main close subject while his master is higher up in the background. Lots of other possibilities as well. So keep trying, show us what you can do and I'm sure you'll get there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2009 at 19:06
Thank you for your words! I must agree - when looking at the photo at home, I was quite sad, but as an attempt, it really has its price for me.
Now, after some more days of trying, this is my second one. It is from Christmas markets in Brno - I talked with this boy for a while, then he invited me inside his stall to look it up and after it I asked him if I should make a photo - so just one and then I said him goodbye...
When walking in the city, I usually got only 50/1,7 with myself, so as with this one - maybe not so wide as before, but in terms of human relations it was really a lot of closeness for me...
So, do you like it?

And thanks for these assignments! It is a fantastic idea that can make people think more about their photography and help them to move further in it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 10:24
kubuthor, I like the picture a lot better, good eye contact and nice colors for the low-light situation.

It's still not really "close", but from your story I gather much closer than you would normally take pictures, so you met the spirit of the assignment and I will let you pass.

You've probably seen we're going to overhaul the assignments and I suggest as you build experience you come back to getting closer after completing some other assignments to get more comfortable to get into people's face a bit more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 20:22
Well, I finally got out with my camera and tried to satisfy the rules for this assignment. I went to the Monterey Aquarium and attempted to take closeup photos again. It was incredibly crowded (and dark). I managed to take many photos, unfortunately most were too blurry or whatever, but I managed these two results, I hope at least one will meet the requirements:





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 20:56
I have shown this one before, but it fits the paramters. This was MUCH closer than I wanted to come to the subject...but he walked right up to me after first checking out my wife and her lunch.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2009 at 00:23
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I hate to remind you, but the overall rules say you must shoot specifically with each assignment in mind and not use a previously posted shot. (See.)

It certainly rates as too close to be comfortable, but rulez is rulez.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2009 at 09:11
@ JS: your first one is a pass and I really like it allthough a bit more dof would have helped (but you can't have everything in such circumstances). I like the connection and concentration of the two ladies (mother and daughter?) and you captured that well. I don't like the second one, too unsharp overall and no connection with the person or what he's doing.

@Basil: what brettania said, unless this assignment was the first thing that came to your mind when this beast started heading for your lunch. Nice shot btw, allthough cropped a bit too tight at the bottom
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 December 2009 at 15:03
ooops. I meant to post this in the "Fill the Frame" contest. LOL

Pegelli: I wish I could have taken the time to set the shot up porpperly. However, he really wasn't cooperating. Imagine that! It was taken with a 400 prime, so zooming out wasn't an option. I was able to snap off two quick shots before he turned and walked away.
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