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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2009 at 17:08
I know the whole flower thing has been done a couple times, but it's what I had available while on a business trip to Atlanta.

In my attempt to attain softness, I upped the ISO to 6400, put the vase on the bathroom counter, turned on the shower to full hot and took the picture of the mirror fully fogged up.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2009 at 18:27
I took this photo at a local football game. I know it's a little grainy but I was trying for blurry and soft. I hope this qualifies...if not I'll keep trying!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 November 2009 at 03:54
Kevin - fantastic... see you are thinking outside the square... very good (although being a rose lover I would have preferred more of the stem) A business trip you say... with flowers???

Desiree - would love to see you try this again... the photo should be enhanced by the softness...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2009 at 02:30
Ok, so I thought I'd try this again...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2009 at 13:30
Tropicalwonderlust and others

Sorry it took so long but you might have seen that Rosie has been promoted to moderator emeritus today and handed over the baton on judging assignments to me. Rosie, thanks for your relentless effort to keep the assignments going and check in once in a while to tell us what you think of the pics posted here.

Now back to your shots, for me a definite improvement in composition and picture quality of your previous submission. In the first the white/green/blue batons still give a strange feeling to the picture since we don't know what we're looking at but the second has a very nice "flow" to it and there's just enough shapes visible in the background to give it some context. So with that one it's a definite pass for me !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2009 at 22:34
Pegelli,

Thanks for the input! I'm happy that you have approved the second shot. These were taken at a sporting event with glow in the dark necklaces and a white/green/blue baton.

I do have a question for you. Was it the flow of the colors or the people in the background (in as much as you can see them) that got me the pass for the second photo? I'm just trying to understand better why number two is the pass when I thought it would be number one.

Awaiting your response!

Rosie....congratulations!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 06:47
@ Tropicalwonderlust, good question because it's hard to answer. I just "like" the second picture a whole lot better. It's more consistent in color, the lines/eddies of the flames/glow zones all work together and in general the softness enhances the picture so much that I'm not missing one sharp point or zone to rest the eye on.

The first has more discontinuities, color contrast and no real relationship between the straight batons and the flames/glow zones and somehow I miss not seeing what we're looking at.

I know it's vague and judgemental and maybe other mods/AE's can chime in and add their opinion on these shots.

Last but not least, if you only posted 1 would it have been a pass. Speculation but it might be a yes, I just find 2 much more pleasing to look at.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 07:35
For me the centered light sticks (?) detract from the overall softness of #1, whereas #2 is diffuse throughout and therefore meets the objective. I too would not have passed you if #1 was your only entry.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 09:29
This assignment was not as simple as it seemed in the start. I decided to create a picture in the style of old pictorialism. I shot in raw+jpg in sepia, but they were not soft enough. To soften the picture more I had to put an old nylon stocking in front of the lens - then it came out like this:



I also made some shots through a bag of clear plastic with a whole in the middle.
At first I didn't like the outcome, but after giving the picture a tough round with levels I found it more satisfying:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 09:53
j-ew... I think you get closest with #1, but I wonder if it delivers on this aspect of the guidelines: "....you will aim to deliver an emotional impact higher than a sharp copy of the same shot would deliver."

I am not prepared to give you a pass on what I see, however will defer to one of my esteemed colleagues should they decide one is warranted.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 10:07
Cam - I think that the first one evokes a feeling of softness to my eye. The soft lighting complements the soft subject matter. The second is a big no (quick hide it j-ew before Pegelli comes along ).

Speaking of Pegelli, I think we need a tie-breaker here. One for and one against passing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 10:24
Thanks so far. I see the point in #2 not being the best for the assignment.
In #1 I tried to produce a feeling of "soft sadness" some air of melancholy in accordance with a lot of portraits from the pictorialism. However - I'll wait for Pegelli's final verdict - though I fear the worst........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 11:44
I thought #1 was a pass when I first saw it, for the reasons Frank mentions, and I think it accomplishes the "soft sadness" and "melancholy" you describe. So by a score of 2-to-1, you officially pass. On to your next assignment.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2009 at 11:56
I'm an engineer, so very bad at judging "emotional impact" of photographs

I agree with the melancholy of the first shot, but somehow the composition and large negative space doesn't appeal to me. However contrary to Frank no need to hide #2, it maybe not a prizewinning photo but somehow I like it better than #1 compositionally and the mirror reflection is mystereous and complements the (very) softness quite well. However the posterization is pulling the image down.

In conclusion, let me congratulate you on a pass by a combined vote on two pictures by 4 moderator/admins (I think this might be a first) so on to your next assignment
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