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sybersitizen
Senior Member Joined: 04 August 2006 Country: United States Location: California Status: Online Posts: 14453 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 January 2018 at 16:47 | ||||
I have already demonstrated that his complaint about aspect ratio distortion is meaningless. I have never seen any such distortion in anyone's images here. And since he refuses to respond to my earlier question about what he intends to do if the limits are changed, I hypothesize that he wants to create links to files that far exceed any possible dyxum restrictions, and does not want to manually downsample them first. I don't know what else to think about all this. |
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MiPr
Admin Group Mikre Dyxum Administrator Joined: 25 August 2006 Country: Poland Location: Wroclaw Status: Offline Posts: 22277 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 January 2018 at 16:51 | ||||
My wild guess is that all may be caused by misinterpretation of the following Wiki info:
It's a long shot thought |
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sybersitizen
Senior Member Joined: 04 August 2006 Country: United States Location: California Status: Online Posts: 14453 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 January 2018 at 16:55 | ||||
Done! |
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Cliff
Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2006 Country: United States Location: Richmond Va Status: Offline Posts: 709 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 January 2018 at 17:10 | ||||
Interesting, does that get back to the Dyxum request that we submit smaller files and that Dyxum's scripts do not themselves resize images? However, the Dyxum guidance does indicate that Dyxum expends time and effort resizing images before judging. May be two different issues.
If Dyxum simply requests the end users browser to resize that does nothing to help users with limited bandwidth. The entire file is transmitted, and it is only the display that is downsized. Internal display bandwidth is not the problem. If that is the case, why bother? Go directly to file sizes to respect bandwidth limitations. I'd suggest adding an option for basic HD images at 1280x720. Here's how the whole thing would look as you described in the language I use to avoid me making syntax errors. current logic and add basic HD: If HD-width and HD-height = image-width and image-height then exit Elseif image-width or image-height > Dyxummax-width or Dyxummax-height .msgBody img, .PMmsgBody img { max-width: 1024px; height: auto; max-height: 900px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; } Endif or perhaps when Dyxum image linking to remote source files remove the browser resizing request and replace it with a line to enforce image file sizes (currently a little less than 1mb). If imagesize > max-size exit and show error message link remote image Endif edit: MiPr this was in response to your post at 3:33 on page 2. Sorry it's so far removed from that. Edited by Cliff - 10 January 2018 at 17:16 |
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MiPr
Admin Group Mikre Dyxum Administrator Joined: 25 August 2006 Country: Poland Location: Wroclaw Status: Offline Posts: 22277 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 January 2018 at 17:39 | ||||
That's exactly the case, and I'm glad you've finally found a few spare minutes to read our answers And yes, this does not help people with limited bandwidth and yes - this is quite frustrating at times (and for me personally).
No "internal bandwidth". The hot-linked photo is passed directly from the hosting site to the end-user's browser - it does not go through Dyxum at all. Why bother? This has been answered numerous times.
Dyxum runs on a third-party software, not our homebrew. Not easy to hack it and there is always some penalty at the end of this (like problems with updates, broken compatibility, etc.)
That's a nice one: create one-off "pass" that fits your particular needs The problem is most probably we would need as many such passes as there are Dyxumers Proper solution would be to scale the image to the size of the viewport.
Hmm, that's interesting: how to check file size from JavaScript before actually downloading the file from a third-party site. Probably can be done - need to look for the solution. Personally I would love to implement such feature - just to cut off those who do not care about other's bandwidth |
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neilt3
Senior Member Joined: 13 September 2010 Country: United Kingdom Location: Manchester.U.K Status: Offline Posts: 3520 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 January 2018 at 19:19 | ||||
Eeee , fancy that eh ! Now they all fit on the screen with the last one being a bit smaller . Often what that symbol in the corner was for . |
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mpb
Senior Member Joined: 28 September 2009 Country: Australia Location: Northern NSW Status: Offline Posts: 1376 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 January 2018 at 08:43 | ||||
Ditto. |
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stiuskr
Moderator Group Joined: 01 September 2006 Country: United States Location: West Virginia Status: Offline Posts: 11493 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 January 2018 at 12:27 | ||||
If you hover the cursor over it, it will tell you. |
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Miranda F
Senior Member Joined: 11 January 2014 Country: United Kingdom Location: Bristol Status: Offline Posts: 4074 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 January 2018 at 15:55 | ||||
So, to summarise (correct me if I'm wrong):
1. Dyxum contains code to force the browser to set the normal (100% view) of images to be a maximum of something like 1024 wide and 900 high (I got lost in the discussion about exceptions). Posting smaller images or thumbnails is good practice when appropriate. If you post larger images, they get shown the same size but cost the user more bandwidth downloading (a decreasing issue for most of us, I expect, though may be of particular relevance to mobile users); OTOH it does allow people to zoom in more without pixellation. This may be useful on some occasions (eg to see camera/lens problems), and to some users with wide screens. 2. There is nothing to stop you posting images of any aspect ratio, and if they are widescreen you can post them wider than 1024 without excess bandwidth; Dyxum will tell the browser to resize the pics but you can override that if you wish, answering Cliffe's problem. 3. There is no kind of distortion introduced by Dyxum or your browser in this, except what is involved in resizing itself. 4. You can adjust or maximise the image size to suit viewing, including the little button in the top right. So it looks to me like the problem Cliffe raised is already dealt with. Right? |
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Cliff
Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2006 Country: United States Location: Richmond Va Status: Offline Posts: 709 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 December 2018 at 21:47 | ||||
Thank you Miranda F.
It is disappointing that Dyxum has yet to accommodate, encourage or even acknowledge basic, industry standard, HD screen resolutions that produce images that are about the same size as or smaller than the Dyxum approved image size limits. On the off chance that anyone is interested in Dyxum encouraging photographs that map directly to native HD 16:9 display standards and monitor construction, the link to my prior post in Miranda F's post details HD screen resolutions and image size specifics. I had hopes that in the year since the prior discussion the light bulb would have come on for some in the Dyxum administrative hierarchy and that we would have some "resolution". But, alas, it has not happened. Merry Christmas to all. |
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pegelli
Admin Group Dyxum Administrator Joined: 02 June 2007 Country: Belgium Location: Schilde Status: Offline Posts: 38252 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 December 2018 at 22:01 | ||||
Hi Cliff,
Merry Christmas to you too. Just to let you know, our lights are on (yes, all bulbs) and if you want to show images in the HD aspect ratio of 16:9 just make them 1024 x 576 and the job is done. And if you don't and make them 16:9 but larger the forum app will shrink them to that size when shown on the forum, but if someone wants to see them larger then right-clicking on them and choosing "show image" will show them in the size you are hosting them or shrunk limited by the screen real-estate of the viewer. Only people with limited bandwith might see your images loading slower. I hope your bulbs will come on now as well Edited by pegelli - 25 December 2018 at 22:06 |
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overeema
Senior Member Joined: 07 September 2008 Country: Netherlands Location: Gelderland Status: Offline Posts: 379 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 February 2020 at 22:50 | ||||
I use photorazor to downsize images.A simple free programm that can downsize a whole map of pictures in one pass. Edited by overeema - 22 November 2020 at 14:30 |
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