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Topic: A Photography Concept
Posted By: Coast
Subject: A Photography Concept
Date Posted: 26 March 2020 at 03:37
I just came upon this vid and I thought I'd share it, because it spoke to me and my mantra:
"Keep it simple and travel Lite"
I'm about traveling/exploring and then photographing the adventure, I've traveled the country all my life. Here in the Wild West there is plenty of opportunity. The travel comes 1st and then the photograph
Like looking out at sunset from "Island in the Sky" or photographing the Milky Way on top of the Sierra's at 10,000ft can be pretty life changing. The photograph can help, to a point, relive that experience

The video is about this concept of photographing equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zH1CUis2TA - The only 3 Sony Aps-c lens you Need.
My 3 would be the Rokinon Ultra Wide I already have and the middle lens the Zeiss 16 70mm I already have and the 3rd lens, I've been waiting for, for years. The Sony G badge tele-zoom 70 350mm
As soon as the travel Ban I'm under is lifted and I can move to my new home in the National Parks west area. Getting the 70 350 is going be priority 1

A totally Aps-c respectable camera, lens set, the camera being my a6500, has long been a goal, I have just been waiting on Sony.
I have found in my travels, the less baggage I have to carry around and worry about, the more I can concentrate on "Place"
thanks Coast

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >



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Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 26 March 2020 at 07:17
Lenses are personal. Yes with these three you can do almost everything, but my three would be:
10-18/4 OSS - nice wide angle, I prefer zooms going this wide.
50/1.8 OSS - I do not need a mid zoom, but this is a really likable lens. Lovely bokeh.
These two will do like 80% of my photography. What I still lack is a travelzoom - and the 70-350G becomes more interesting all the time. But not yet completely convinced

I love my A6400 (and before the NEX F3 and A6000) for travel!

Hope the lock down ends soon and you can move to your new home. I hope every bodies lock down ends soon so we all can travel again. Stay safe

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Posted By: clk230
Date Posted: 26 March 2020 at 08:49
I'm looking forward to seeing more of your images Joe!

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C & C always welcome


Posted By: owenn01
Date Posted: 26 March 2020 at 10:46
Hi Joe,

This is somewhat similar to the 'philosophy' I have taken recently. Whilst I take probably more gear than I really need, I tend to only ever carry/take with me whilst I am out and about 3 lenses:

Sigma 12-24
Sigma 24 - 70
Sony 70 - 400G Mk I

The latter is, perhaps, less 'carry friendly' than is ideal, but I can carry all this with me in a simple Sony Reporter bag without too much difficulty. Almost all the Utah images from 2018 were taken 'on the hoof' with just the first two lenses on board for example.

A useful link indeed and one to make all of us think about what is really 'necessary'.

Best regards, Neil.

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Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 05:12
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Lenses are personal. Yes with these three you can do almost everything, but my three would be:
10-18/4 OSS - nice wide angle, I prefer zooms going this wide.
50/1.8 OSS - I do not need a mid zoom, but this is a really likable lens. Lovely bokeh.
These two will do like 80% of my photography. What I still lack is a travelzoom - and the 70-350G becomes more interesting all the time. But not yet completely convinced

I love my A6400 (and before the NEX F3 and A6000) for travel!

Hope the lock down ends soon and you can move to your new home. I hope every bodies lock down ends soon so we all can travel again. Stay safe

Yes Addy, thanks
for an Ultra wide I love my little Rokinon, it is super sharp and really like the pictures it takes. It has some CA and is a little quirky, but maybe 1/2 of my photos are w the lens and its pretty light and compact.
Your mid lens is a surprise, a prime. But I already have my Zeiss and have found that and the a6500 to be a great combo.
I guess we are both looking forward to that tele-zoom, can't wait to be taking photos of far away mountain tops and deserts and you know We equally love our cameras, I see. They are very powerful little guys, the OSS on mine is one of the main reasons I bought it, being a night shooter.   

Thanks on the lockdown. My irony is, according to the Johns Hopkins Global virus map, the place I'm moving to doesn't have a case within hundreds of miles, yet here in San Francisco I walk out my front door, I'm at risk.
On the other hand I wouldn't want to be responsible for introducing the virus in some way to the new community. (I haven't felt sick a day this year)
Stay safe addy and happy shooting

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 05:27
Thanks James, really appreciate it, I like your stuff too
I'm working on a set right now, only its all Big city
All the Best_____Joseph

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 05:54
Hello Neil;
I like your philosophy
I'm thinking when I'm out in the National Parks I might only take the Ultra wide and hopefully the tele-zoom, maybe do without the Zeiss. I'll start out w all 3 and see how it goes
I do have 2 other lens I use quite a lot:
my Rokkor 58mm f 1.4 Ive had forever. It won't fit on my a6500 but does on my a6000 so it stays on it
many of my CanyonLand photos were w that combo and I couldn't have been more pleased
A 50mm f1.1 for night work

You know your epic Utah Vacation shoot was the catalyst to make my move (hopefully) Great shoot! I loved your adventure and took it to heart, and I have picked up a lot from your photos
actually I've been wanting to get back to the "HeartLand" for a very long time
Thank you____Joseph Stay Safe!

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: AutumnRose
Date Posted: 27 March 2020 at 14:41
[QUOTE=Coast] Hello Neil;

my Rokkor 58mm f 1.4 Ive had forever. It won't fit on my a6500 but does on my a6000 so it stays on it


Joseph,
Why does it not fit on your a6500? Both cameras have the same mount, don't they?

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Kathi
A900, A77, A37, A700, A580, A300, NEX6, 800si, Maxxum 5 and a few lenses


Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 28 March 2020 at 00:03
Hello Autumn Rose;
Good question, the whole story is I got a dumb adapter to mount the MC Rokkor to the a6000 when I 1st bought it
it worked well, no problems. The 58mm f1.4 with the adapter won't screw on the 6500 for whatever reason. Owning both, the 6500 is a very different camera from the a6000. It has everything I wanted the 6000 to have, including ease of use. If you ever get a chance you might want to pick up both at the same time
thanks____Joseph

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: QuietOC
Date Posted: 28 March 2020 at 11:58
Older third-party E-mount adapters often don't fit well on the all metal mounts on the A7II and later cameras. The older cameras used plastic lugs in the mount. There are third-party all-metal mount kits for the older cameras. It may be possible to swap the earlier mount to the later cameras.

The adapter that came on my Rokkor 40mm F1.7 is like this. I am not even sure what this adapter is supposedly for. It is too short for adapting Minolta Hi Matic lenses.

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Sony A7III A6000 HVL-F45RM LA-EA3 LA-EA4 MB-IV MC-11 EF-E II MD-NEX KR-NEX DA-NEX
Minolta Maxxum 600si
Pentax Q7 5-15 15-45/2.8 8.5/1.9 11.5/9 AF-P/Q


Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 28 March 2020 at 20:24
thank you QuietOC
I've wondered what the situation was, but because I was happy w how it worked out w the 6000 I didn't really pursue it.
That is very intricate and detailed knowledge, thank you. I am always amazed at the wealth and depth, most of it way over my head, of the knowledge here at Dyxum. I learn something new all the time
All the Best_____Coast

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: skm.sa100
Date Posted: 28 March 2020 at 21:56
For me, a minimalist set would be

A77
Tamron 10-24
Sony 16-50/2.8
MAF 70-210/F4.

I have a small Lowepro camera bag that just manages to fit these three and that helps me capture 98% or so of the pics I'd like to take.

Sashi

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More Dyxumer, less photographer.


Posted By: Hezu
Date Posted: 28 March 2020 at 23:32
I guess I have to mention this: if and when I want to head out with light camera setup, I leave ILCs and lenses home and pick up my Sony RX10 IV. It is surprisingly capable tool, 24-600 mm (35 mm equivalent) F2.4-F4 lens suits most situations, AF is on par with the newer Sony ILCs, shoots up to 24 frames/second with ok buffer size, the image quality is good, although sure the small 1" sensor may struggle in higher sensitivities and there is "only" 20 megapixel resolution.
So why I haven't yet sold my A and E mount camera equipment? First, I still seem to find the controls little flimsier (especially zoom and manual focus) and then despite that the versatile lens and decent sensor, in some situations you just want that larger sensor, which handles low light situations better, especially when you can mount a fast, large aperture lens in the front. Also in the lens compartment, there is the possibility to use such lenses that capture views (eg. super wide angles) that are not possible with the built-in lens of RX10 IV (and III). And of course, there is then the fact that on Dyxum you should primarily post images from A and E mount cameras.
So, it can be quite liberating to have this sort of versatile, yet compact camera, especially in those situations where you certainly don't want to haul around one of those big, heavy camera bags.

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http://hezu.1g.fi/ - Galerie Hezu


Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 29 March 2020 at 03:39
Hey Sashi,
put me down for a minimalist set too
nice choice of lenses
thanks_____Joe

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 29 March 2020 at 03:40
Hezu, thanks for the thoughtful reply
That is a powerful camera. It's even longer than the 500mm of my prospective lens.
I think most of us are hesitant being locked into one particular lens no matter how good. I suspect as time progresses that will change. Maybe we have too much history and tradition behind us to feel comfortable restricted?
Yeh, I don't like hauling a lot of stuff around too, but thats only for my style of photography. Travel
If I worked in a studio I would probably have a lot of stuff.

Do you have a favorite 3 lenses for your crop camera?
thanks_____Coast

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: Hezu
Date Posted: 29 March 2020 at 13:05
Originally posted by Coast Coast wrote:

Hezu, thanks for the thoughtful reply
That is a powerful camera. It's even longer than the 500mm of my prospective lens.
I think most of us are hesitant being locked into one particular lens no matter how good. I suspect as time progresses that will change. Maybe we have too much history and tradition behind us to feel comfortable restricted?
I guess that is the main reason, although I guess it is possible to overcome this sort of feelings: I know for example one Finnish nature photographer who few years ago abandoned his Canon DSLR gear and became a big advocate for Sony RX10 IV. He has said this camera is a game changer that does almost everything his older, heavier setup did and even offers couple extra tricks: at least the ability to quickly take photos in different focal lengths without having to change lenses (or switch cameras if you are carrying more than one).
Originally posted by Coast Coast wrote:

Yeh, I don't like hauling a lot of stuff around too, but thats only for my style of photography. Travel
If I worked in a studio I would probably have a lot of stuff.

Do you have a favorite 3 lenses for your crop camera?
I guess those would be Tamron 150-600, Sony 70-400G and Sigma 70-200/2.8 II Macro HSM. As you see, none of these are dedicated APS-C models and all are those dreaded heavy telephotos and in case of the first two, the main reason to mate these with APS-C camera is just to get more reach from the crop. But I have to admit that since I bought Sony FE 200-600G, my sole APS-C body, α77 II, has been mostly gathering dust and I'm seriously considering to sell. When I used APS-C (A mount) cameras more, first Sigma 18-50/2.8 and then Sony 16-50/2.8 used to be my work horses, but times have changed and my usage patterns are favouring full frame cameras and RX10 IV. I have to add that even with α7R series cameras I have tendency to prefer the smaller lighter lenses (like small primes and F4 zooms), although there are exemptions like that Sony FE 200-600G...

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http://hezu.1g.fi/ - Galerie Hezu


Posted By: Phil Wood
Date Posted: 29 March 2020 at 17:33
My lightweight holiday choice is an A58 (light, exceptional battery life) with a Tamron 16-300mm zoom. For a hiking holiday I wouldn't take anything else.

If I want a bit more versatility, a bit more IQ it's an A77 with Sigma 10-20mm, Sony DT 16-50mm, and something longer - depending on what I'm looking to shoot. Options would be the beercan (I like it on APS-C for concerts and general walkabout), Min AF 100-300mm APO for longer views, or Sigma 170-500mm for very occasional birding. However, the Tamron 16-300 would be the one I'd keep ahead of these.

As it is I shoot mostly with primes on full frame, so the original question The only 3 Sony Aps-c lens you Need is not that applicable, but my answer has to be the Sigma 10-20, Sony 16-50 and Tamron 16-300 - I can handle the rest with FF lenses.


Posted By: skm.sa100
Date Posted: 29 March 2020 at 19:28
Originally posted by Coast Coast wrote:

Hey Sashi,
put me down for a minimalist set too
nice choice of lenses
thanks_____Joe


Joe, I'm not surprised to find at least one person in agreement with me.
The standard three lens kit for FF is typically, a 16-35 plus a 24-70 plus a 70-200.
My setup is a small variation of this.

However, on such discussions I've seen highly personalized opinions such as someone going with a 50mm plus a 28/35 and maybe a 135. These would be the prime lovers.

For me, the convenience of a zoom is unbeatable for a small setup.

This is an interesting thread that'll go on few a few days and I'll be following it with a keen interest.

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More Dyxumer, less photographer.


Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 31 March 2020 at 22:29
Hezu, sorry I thought you had a 6000 series

Phil and Sashi
very good lens choices
Phil, good to hear from a prime shooter
Sashi, I'm w you on the zooms
very interesting
thanks____Joe

Great to have Dyxum during our confinements!

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a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon Ultra Wide, Rokkor MC 58 1.4 < Keep it Simple / Travel lite >


Posted By: skm.sa100
Date Posted: 01 April 2020 at 12:21
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

My lightweight holiday choice is an A58 (light, exceptional battery life) with a Tamron 16-300mm zoom. For a hiking holiday I wouldn't take anything else.

If I want a bit more versatility, a bit more IQ it's an A77 with Sigma 10-20mm, Sony DT 16-50mm, and something longer - depending on what I'm looking to shoot. Options would be the beercan (I like it on APS-C for concerts and general walkabout), Min AF 100-300mm APO for longer views, or Sigma 170-500mm for very occasional birding. However, the Tamron 16-300 would be the one I'd keep ahead of these.

As it is I shoot mostly with primes on full frame, so the original question The only 3 Sony Aps-c lens you Need is not that applicable, but my answer has to be the Sigma 10-20, Sony 16-50 and Tamron 16-300 - I can handle the rest with FF lenses.


Phil, how do you like you 16-300? I bought it about a couple of years back but don't use all that much since the IQ seems to be not that great.
That's not surprising since a lens of that range is a compromise on many fronts.

Sashi

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More Dyxumer, less photographer.



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