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Photo 150 - a yearlong photo challenge

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Topic: Photo 150 - a yearlong photo challenge
Posted By: pegelli
Subject: Photo 150 - a yearlong photo challenge
Date Posted: 29 December 2020 at 15:31
Our emeritus Dyxum moderator dCap came up with an idea for a yearlong Photo challenge that got some input from ADub128 “behind the scenes” and we decided to support it on Dyxum. In the thread https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/project-150-a-365-alternative_topic138992_page1.html - where this was initially discussed you can find a lot of information how it came about and some other ideas, so we’ll only give a summary here in this introductory post

The project is called: Photo 150
It is a combination of three open photo topics of your own choosing. Three sets of 50x things spread through the year. The idea is to create one new photo each week per topic throughout 2021. This is similar to a 365 and is about living photography. Take an adventure down a new photo avenue and/or trawl your archive.

Some examples for inspiration, but feel free to come up with other ideas that suit your plans better:
- once a week post from the archive
- once a week macro
- once a week example of photo technique
- once a week studio shot
- once a week still life
- once a week photo walk
- once a week with just a prime
- once a week with just a zoom
- once a week blog post (not photo related, and just posted elsewhere, but linked in your thread)
https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/project-150-a-365-alternative_topic138992_page1.html - More examples can be found in this thread: Project 150 - a 365 alt

This starts at the beginning of the first business week of the year, Week 1 Mon 04 Jan to Sun 10 Jan 2021 and runs through to week 52 Mon 27 Dec to Sun 02 Jan 2022. You even get to skip two weeks since there are 52 weeks in the year, similar to the event passes but this time it is a week off. Or you can over deliver!

To keep momentum you should be posting once a week to each of your topics/channels, or combine all three topics into one weekly post. You could treat the once-a-week as a minimum and we advise you to stick to once-a-day as a maximum. Refining and selecting will help you edit/delete weaker images and produce a stronger overall final project portfolio.

Those of you who regularly shoot April Foolishness, Oktoberfest, Day Prime or any other Dyxum challenge can simply combine those challenges if you want to do a Photo 150 and pick your own 'photo of the week' to be part of the Photo 150 without over-committing and going mad!
Anyone also posting to their instagram or twitter are encouraged to use the #Photo150 hashtag.

Participants should create their own thread https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/open-views_forum12.html - in the “Open Views” forum here with the title: PHOTO 150 - username.
Then state the three themes you'll be shooting/posting in your first post there. Use your thread to post your three images each week, either with titles or with some background info. And others can join in (with comments only). We will move your thread to the https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/dyxum-challenges_forum39.html - "Dyxum Challenges" forum and make a “linked” index below here so all the threads of the project participants can easily be located.

More information to this project and its background can be found here https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/project-150-a-365-alternative_topic138992_page1.html - Project 150 - a 365 alt
Basically the normal image posting https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/forum-behaviour-rules-and-guidelines_topic86791.html?FID=12&PR=3 - rules and guidelines apply. These rules and guidelines also give guidance on posting “non A- or E-mount” photo’s, so occasional posting of those photos is allowed within the limits given there, however it should be clear that most photo’s in your “Photo 150” project should be A- or E-mount.

Optionally, if you are a keen blogger you could drop one of your 50x channels out of the photo part and make 50x blog posts elsewhere. At least one of your channels should, of course, be photo related and captured with an E-mount or A-mount camera. The idea is also that the three topics you choose will stay constant for the year.

So if you want to join all you need to do is
- choose your three project topics
- sign up below
- create your own thread in "Open Views" and explain your three projects (we'll move it to "Dyxum Challenges")
- start taking/selecting your photos and post them in your thread


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Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 29 December 2020 at 15:34
Participant index (we'll add the links to their own thread once created)

- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-dcap_topic139056_post1637013.html#1637013 - Photo 150 - dCap
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-adub128_topic139119_page1.html - Photo 150 - ADub128
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo150-wetapunga_topic139059.html - Photo 150 - Wētāpunga
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/topic139064_post1637075.html#1637075 - Photo 150 - pegelli
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-onsplekkie_topic139075_post1637232.html#1637232 - Photo 150 - onsplekkie
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-howard-s_topic139076.html - Photo 150 - Howard_S
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-mikey2000_topic139105.html - Photo 150 - mikey2000
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-phil-wood_topic139080_post1637305.html#1637305 - Photo 150 - Phil Wood
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-maffe_topic139078.html - Photo 150 - Maffe
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-eddyizm_topic139098.html - Photo 150 - eddyism
- https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/photo-150-bonneville_topic139106.html - Photo 150 - bonneville


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Posted By: onsplekkie
Date Posted: 29 December 2020 at 19:21
Interesting project. Been reading along on the different proposed 'year commitment-projects'. I like the challenge of this post.

l'll have to think about the 3x50 workingtitles. Not sure I understand right about weeks taking pictures throughout the 50 weeks & posting them somewhat later here on Dyxum. For example if I am out for a weeks holiday?

starts NEXT week

Very curious who will join in

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"take life as it is, not as you want it to be"


Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 29 December 2020 at 19:40
Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

For example if I am out for a weeks holiday?
I'd say you just post after you're back, or use up your "vacation weeks". The year has 52 weeks and you only need to post 3 x 50 photos, so you can skip two weeks in the base case. With such a long challenge we need to be a bit flexible. I'm always more interested in the intent of the rules rather than the exact letter of the rules.



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You can see the April Foolishness 2022 exhibition https://www.dyxum.com/dforum/topic141325_post1694580.html#1694580 - here Another great show of the talent we have on Dyxum


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 29 December 2020 at 19:59
yeah @onsplekkie it's a shooting project as much as a sharing/posting thing

guessing you might take a camera with you on holiday

just like in a 365, sometimes you fall a few days behind (in editing/posting!)
here you'll be 3-6 images behind after your 1-2 week hols
catch up with your week 1-2 editing/posts on return and then drift back to weekly momentum

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: onsplekkie
Date Posted: 29 December 2020 at 20:07
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

yeah @onsplekkie it's a shooting project as much as a sharing/posting thing

guessing you might take a camera with you on holiday

just like in a 365, sometimes you fall a few days behind (in editing/posting!)
here you'll be 3-6 images behind after your 1-2 week hols
catch up with your week 1-2 editing/posts on return and then drift back to weekly momentum


I can do

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"take life as it is, not as you want it to be"


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 00:32
five players already is a rather good start
let's hope for a few more
looking forward to seeing what topics people pick
I had two of mine already defined but decided the 3rd one today

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: Phil Wood
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 01:42
I am tempted, but selecting three themes to live with for a year is daunting.


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 03:00
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I am tempted, but selecting three themes to live with for a year is daunting.

You could play it safe with some of your options.

For instance I could have picked shooting with a prime, but with 7 primes between 15 and 135mm that wasn’t really much of a challenge... But if I wanted one easy shot per week...

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Posted By: Dena
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 09:06
I would love to do this, as I love the April Fools and etc. I have gotten a lot out of those. I like to set photographic goals at the start of the year. I guess I could use those and go for it. My problem is, life tends to blow up in my face at times. For example this month, I have been out only the 21st for the conjunction. it's simply been one crisis after another in addition to it being the busiest month of the year for my home business. I hate to embarrass myself if I had another stretch like this.

My photo goals for 2020 got sidetracked due to the pandemic and my exhibit, which took a ton of time to prepare. Then I got access to a new photo vista within 8 minutes of home, absolutely no people around and I ran with a study of that place and I intend to work more with it. My goals for this year include more portrait work, work on lighting and long exposures. I'll think about this....


Posted By: onsplekkie
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 10:27
Thought about the challenges I like to take on as a project:

1. (short) telephoto - make more use of my two new primes; 75mm & 135mm. Get into the learning curve of this FL and outside my comfortzone/most used/beloved 35mm.

2. Streetshot - Keep up my flow of daily commute scenery. I'll give it my best to get people in the frame, no promises.....

3. Anything creative (inspired by Wetapunga's Novel technique) - Longshutter speeds, multiple shots/stitches, extention tubes, filters, lens-wacking, anything realy that gets the brain working outside the box

Not 100% cemented ideas, but should be close enough to give my commitment for a 150 challenge.

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"take life as it is, not as you want it to be"


Posted By: onsplekkie
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 10:30
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I am tempted, but selecting three themes to live with for a year is daunting.


This idea also scares me most....
Still, my curiosity wins

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"take life as it is, not as you want it to be"


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 11:35
@phil/@ons - daunting is sort of the theme too (if it was easy everyone would do it) ... I'm a forward planner but love how reality is rarely what I was expecting. I've picked a shooting format (21:9) that I've never done before, to be shot on a camera that is still in a camera store. And I'm also a bit rubbish at landscapes. This year I've played with 16:9 but not cropped a single image down to 21:9 (yet). Saving that for next week. I have no idea if this is gonna work or not, I have about 3 shots in mind so far ... so will report back in 50 weeks time on that!

For anyone "stuck at home" a lot or "restricted" in their opportunity to venture far outdoors, this could be a time to focus on and develop some home shooting. Set-up cost can be near zero from household objects to create a mini studio. My first home studio was one empty row of a book shelf which I taped white printer paper to to create a 5-sided box of white.

Kitchen/food photography LOOKS real simple - until you try it and realize it is super difficult to do well. 50x different meals, one a week ... will get you shopping for new food stuff! Or 50x ingredients +/- tools. Your belly might even thank you for this one.

You might be surprized how much you can see in one local walk route - I'm lucky to be so close to a chunk of beach which is where I usually do my daily walk/exercise. But even the 10 min walk to the local food shop has things to shoot en route. This is from a one-camera-one-lens easy-carry perspective though.

@Dena - if you are real short on spare time or short on daylight outdoor camera time then maybe this isn't for you? Have you considered "a blog" (open topic, maybe not even photography). 50x movies I watched. My 50x fave albums.
Wordpress offer a variety of tools from free to paid. Does anyone wish they'd kept a once-a-week covid diary starting Feb/Mar 2020? What we've known, how we've adapted, what old routines have had to change.

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: Howard_S
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 11:38
I'm coming a bit late to this discussion/challenge, but I am intrigued. I need to bring a bit more focus (ha ha) to my photography and Project 150 seems more manageable than a 365; breaking it down into three themes for each week's posting is another way to make it achievable.

I want to dive into my archive as there are photos from trips in the last few years that I haven't properly reviewed yet, so that's one theme.

The recent discussion about the 21:9 or 64:27 aspect ratio has interested me, but I don't know if I can sustain it for a year. However, I do like making panoramas, so I might broaden the theme to 2:1 and wider. The problem for me is that my panoramas can go as high as 5:1 and the limitations to presentation here on Dyxum (1024p max long side) perhaps doesn't do them justice (though I can link to external sources). Instagram has a good ability to show panoramas if you break the picture up into 1:1 squares and load them into a multiple post. Viewers can then swipe to and fro across the view at a much better resolution than would otherwise be possible.

Finally, I do enjoy using old tech and as I tend to hang on to cameras when I upgrade I think I can pursue things a little there. For example, it's more than 10 years since the NEX-3 and -5 were launched. In a few weeks I'm receiving the Monster LA-VE1 adapter that will let me use some Vectis lenses on E-mount bodies.

So my initial thoughts are

1 Archive photos from past trips
2 Panoramic photos 2:1 and wider
3 Vintage digital


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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 11:42
Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

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3. Anything creative (inspired by Wetapunga's Novel technique) - Longshutter speeds, multiple shots/stitches, extention tubes, filters, lens-wacking, anything realy that gets the brain working outside the box

Not 100% cemented ideas, but should be close enough to give my commitment for a 150 challenge.


Really interested to see how this and @Wētā challenging channel goes ... and looking forward to borrowing your ideas

Having done my 366x on flickr, I did that with a big bunch of people and seeing their images and be inspired by their ideas certainly helped - quite a few of us did 'copycat shots' that we'd not normally have thought of - was super fun! Especially as we'd see one person's technique repeated in the wrong persons stream.

I was tempted to just call TWO topics and decide on my third next week (could still go and edit as I have one other idea which I'm kinda saving for week50mm 2021!).

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 11:49
@Howard - there are a bunch of 'widescreen' formats from the classic 16:9 (really not very wide at all!) to silly wide. And then free-form as your own 5:1. Perhaps a looser title of just widescreen would still be neat but freer.

I've seen a few 3x/4x image wide panoramics on instagram (I think you need a 2nd IG made app for this?). And it is usually quite obvious from the first shot that there is more to see to the screen right ... love how that is interactive.

I'd kinda dismissed IG as a place to put my 64:27 shape as it tends to favor square or even portrait way up. Thank you for the reminder that this can be done on the gram!

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: Howard_S
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 12:05
@dCap, of course in the time of APS film the 'HDTV' format was 16:9 and Panoarama was 3:1 (cropped from the HDTV picture area). I quite like 16:9, but I wanted to move beyond that and so >2:1 seemed a simple label.

As for IG, I use Photoshop's Slice command to make the 1:1 tiles and upload them with the multiple post option, so no extra IG app, AFAIK. I'm not sure, but you may have to keep to 1:1 for each tile, but there's no harm in trying two 32x27!

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 12:17
Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

@dCap, of course in the time of APS film the 'HDTV' format was 16:9 and Panoarama was 3:1 (cropped from the HDTV picture area). I quite like 16:9, but I wanted to move beyond that and so >2:1 seemed a simple label.

As for IG, I use Photoshop's Slice command to make the 1:1 tiles and upload them with the multiple post option, so no extra IG app, AFAIK. I'm not sure, but you may have to keep to 1:1 for each tile, but there's no harm in trying two 32x27!


And I'm sure I'll upload them in the wrong order when I first try too
... yeah, would need to 'picture it' and frame it perhaps with a white border as a set of 1:1s. More maths.

I've seen a couple of brands fail at this and upload the wrong image which is fun to see! Oddly they leave it there (too many comments to see that 'everyone' is shouting 'um, wrong third image'). I have a feeling Sony did this (wrong) with their ads for the Xperia 10 (21:9 phone screen).

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: Phil Wood
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 21:17
The 'anything creative' idea is interesting, but not 50 different things!

I also like the idea of revisiting the archive - in my case a box of slides in the attic. Are there 50 worthwhile images there?

Vintage digital is also interesting, mixing archive stuff pre-Sony and newly shot stuff with my KM5D & A100 (bought as curiosities a year or two back and little used). Mind you, any A-Mount is heading towards vintage these days.

Shooting primes is what I do almost daily, so not much of a challenge, but I would want to fit the various Dyxum challenges in to the mix, so it would certainly fit in well.

I also have a lot of Minolta AF lenses, shooting a different one a week would see some very little used glass get an outing. I need to count them, but I might need to include a few other brands to hit the 50.

Landscapes is another tempter, I certainly don't do enough of them. I often find myself wandering around the countryside failing to find a shot, with luck forcing myself to shoot more might help my eye.

Streetscapes with people are great, I shoot them quite often, but by happenstance rather than design - I do wonder what it would be like to feel I have to get a shot.

Different aspect ratios might be a challenge - after all my favourite is 1:1.


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 22:17
@Phil ... a perfect post to show that once you set to thinking about this 'just 3x' channels of 50 might not be enough! You're welcome to bolt on a couple of extras (Photo 200, Photo 250)

Some of these topics you mention, and others I've considered myself, also might not lend themselves to a full once-a-week for a year set. So I've been wondering if we need a mid-year (01-Jul) rotation of ideas option ... if any idea dries up or a new idea pop into mind.

Or we could call 01-Apr, 01-Jul, and 01-Oct (start of each new quarter) a chance to rotate in/out one of your topics. 13 weeks of macro followed by 39 weeks of portraits via a 01-Apr rotation. Over complicates though.

Your 50x lenses could be fun to see (don't have to be all Minolta, body is Sony ... right!)

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 22:33
@Peg - very neat to see this work in combination with the prime days and other ongoing challenges. 

And yeah, my archive will also be 12+ months old first.  I will probably start with my Jan 2020 images (fujifilm), pretty sure I shot most of Jan daily ... and then stopped in Feb when covid happened.

At some point Feb/March I'd like to get ahead and see if I can post the images on the day they were shot!?  So, I'd work on my old March files in Feb and have them at the ready to post on their anniversary.  (I will hopefully forget this mad idea once I get engrossed though).

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 30 December 2020 at 23:28
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

The 'anything creative' idea is interesting, but not 50 different things!


It sounds like you have a few good ideas. For what it is worth, I'm not planning on making my creative theme 50 'different' techniques, as I hope to come back to some of them and refine them/get better at them. So yes, I'm intending to explore quite a few options here. But I am perfectly willing to come back and have another go at some of them, to benefit from the prior experience.




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Posted By: mikey2000
Date Posted: 31 December 2020 at 16:38
Sounds v. interesting. I think I'll have to join in!

My first thoughts for the three themes for me:
1) One macro at 1:2 or closer
2) One dog pic
3) one from the archive (I've got a pleny of 1year+ stuff to get through.)

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 31 December 2020 at 17:19
@mikey - welcome aboard player #7

Having dipped into my archive a little bit earlier this year (like for 1-2 days) I saw shots that I have no memory of ever taking or seeing before ... quite looking forward to finding out what I used to shoot! I will probably start with my 2005 shots (when the Dynax 7D was the latest camera!).

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: onsplekkie
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 11:28
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

The 'anything creative' idea is interesting, but not 50 different things!


It sounds like you have a few good ideas. For what it is worth, I'm not planning on making my creative theme 50 'different' techniques, as I hope to come back to some of them and refine them/get better at them. So yes, I'm intending to explore quite a few options here. But I am perfectly willing to come back and have another go at some of them, to benefit from the prior experience.




+1

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Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 11:51
This is a really complicated concept. This is a 3 a week challenge but with themes. That does not make it easier then a 365 challenge, in fact, I think this is harder.

Why not a Project 50? I think that would be doable for much more people.
Also, announcing this not even a week before the start does not make it easier.

I will therefore not join. This is way to much commitment.


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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 13:20
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

This is a really complicated concept. This is a 3 a week challenge but with themes. That does not make it easier then a 365 challenge, in fact, I think this is harder.

Why not a Project 50? I think that would be doable for much more people.
Also, announcing this not even a week before the start does not make it easier.

I will therefore not join. This is way to much commitment.


It is indeed 'not for everyone' but is entirely optional.

The chatter into this started a little while ago. While the start date is Mon 04-Jan, someone could shoot/create 3x images on Sunday 10-Jan (end of week 1) or even use week 1-2 as their week's off and being their 50 in week 3.

So, this is really being offered as an alternative to anyone who has considered a 365 (early/mid/late Dec is when that will be popping into those people's minds). Those that have considered a 365. 01-Jan is danger zone for 365-ers. It is a day I have to force myself to NOT shoot. I have 11 hours to NOT take a picture today.

Having done a 365 (well, 366, actually turned into a 500 pic-a-day) ... when I stopped on Day 500 of my 366 I switched to a 'once-a-week' project and found it almost impossible to keep motivated and 'remember' to take a photo for my project. perhaps that is a personal thing.

Weekend shooters can play this alternative to a daily 365. It could be 50x Sunday photo walks, capturing 3x themes. It also suits bloggers (a non-photo '150'). Fitness people, one 10km run per week. The original title was Project 150 but we wanted to make this more photo focused. I've been discussing it here and via PM/email elsewhere and like how it has evolved via other's input.

I did my '365' on flickr with a big group of people, between 10-50 people at times through the year ... that 'project buddy' aspect was an enormous help. Some of my fellow 365ers back in 2008 started on their birthday (or day after and end on their next birthday).

I love that I can chill 01/02/03-Jan and open my archive sometime on Monday or maybe Tuesday.

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 14:22
But all the rules about three different topics a week makes it really hard.

The tradition on Dyxum is of inclusive challenges, the challenge is not from Dyxum to you. You challenge yourself! The objectives are: (1) to get you out shooting more pictures; (2) to develop your photographic skills; (3) to enjoy photography; (4) to get to know the other photographers and fellow Dyxumers in the challenge and comment on their photo's. This challenge has a huge barrier to entry imho.

I hope you guys enjoy yourself. I really do. I just wonder how many of you really keep to the three topics you decide on now for 50 weeks in 2021. I could not do that.

If it was just a straight 3/week, that would already be better. I think it is your personal challenge, that some people want to join - but that is really hard to join for a lot of people.

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Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 14:28
And I am not the only one who has problems with these rules. Several people remarked in this thread.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 14:42
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

The tradition on Dyxum is of inclusive challenges, the challenge is not from Dyxum to you. You challenge yourself! The objectives are: (1) to get you out shooting more pictures; (2) to develop your photographic skills; (3) to enjoy photography; (4) to get to know the other photographers and fellow Dyxumers in the challenge and comment on their photo's. [.... clipped]


I think all of these things will continue in Dyxum.

Photo 150 (Project 150) is an optional extra. Not a replacement.

It is new and different. Aimed at anyone in the 365-mindset. A 365 is a known animal, a beast, and something some photographers want, try, and fail. This is the same but different.

I posted this here as I've sort of done 2.5x 365s - and once you do one, repeating the same isn't so much of a challenge. So, I looked for something new. But I have a website in draft, plus new flickr, Insta, twitter - I'm happy to post there instead if you'd like to cancel this project.

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
- Don McLean


Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 15:22
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

But all the rules about three different topics a week makes it really hard.

The tradition on Dyxum is of inclusive challenges, the challenge is not from Dyxum to you. You challenge yourself! The objectives are: (1) to get you out shooting more pictures; (2) to develop your photographic skills; (3) to enjoy photography; (4) to get to know the other photographers and fellow Dyxumers in the challenge and comment on their photo's. This challenge has a huge barrier to entry imho.

I hope you guys enjoy yourself. I really do. I just wonder how many of you really keep to the three topics you decide on now for 50 weeks in 2021. I could not do that.

If it was just a straight 3/week, that would already be better. I think it is your personal challenge, that some people want to join - but that is really hard to join for a lot of people.


Addy, we're an inclusive website and all challanges are open to all members, only restriction is using A- or E-mount (except week 50 which allows all brands/mounts). In order to attract participants with differing time constraints we have up to now "Day Prime", "July prime weeks", "week 50", and the two prime month ("April Foolishness" and "Oktoberfest") to which we now add this "Photo 150" challenge. The fact some members think this one is too much of a time commitment doesn't make it any less "inclusive" in my mind. There's plenty of members for which a month prime or even week prime is too much but I don't think we should stop these longer challenges because of that. We understand that not every challenge is for everybody, which is exactly the reason we have such a variety in order to be able to cater to members with a large spread of time availability needed to complete a challenge.    

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Posted By: Phil Wood
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 16:56
Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

But all the rules about three different topics a week makes it really hard.

The tradition on Dyxum is of inclusive challenges, the challenge is not from Dyxum to you. You challenge yourself! The objectives are: (1) to get you out shooting more pictures; (2) to develop your photographic skills; (3) to enjoy photography; (4) to get to know the other photographers and fellow Dyxumers in the challenge and comment on their photo's. This challenge has a huge barrier to entry imho.

I hope you guys enjoy yourself. I really do. I just wonder how many of you really keep to the three topics you decide on now for 50 weeks in 2021. I could not do that.

If it was just a straight 3/week, that would already be better. I think it is your personal challenge, that some people want to join - but that is really hard to join for a lot of people.


Addy, we're an inclusive website and all challanges are open to all members, only restriction is using A- or E-mount (except week 50 which allows all brands/mounts). In order to attract participants with differing time constraints we have up to now "Day Prime", "July prime weeks", "week 50", and the two prime month ("April Foolishness" and "Oktoberfest") to which we now add this "Photo 150" challenge. The fact some members think this one is too much of a time commitment doesn't make it any less "inclusive" in my mind. There's plenty of members for which a month prime or even week prime is too much but I don't think we should stop these longer challenges because of that. We understand that not every challenge is for everybody, which is exactly the reason we have such a variety in order to be able to cater to members with a large spread of time availability needed to complete a challenge.    


I agree with Pieter that challenges need not be for everyone - even the most popular only attract 20 or so participants.

Looking back in the archives I see that challenges were more varied in the past, not just based on focal length. I regret not being more involved back then. I particularly like one that challenged participants to try new techniques for a month (July 2014) and a week long challenge to photograph the same subject daily, and there were other subject based challenges. I guess these sort of challenges are not around today because they were not popular enough? I'd like to see a few week-long challenges in this vein (in between the big month long extravaganzas) - happy to organize if necessary.


Posted By: Maffe
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 17:57
Long time since I did any posting shots here.
My challenge will be 15 years of digital photo, my archive with digital goes back to 2005 and I joined Dyxum in nov 2005.
It’s about time I had a look at what I have and share it here :)


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Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 20:56
I'm getting some nudges from another admin to move all the "Photo 150 - "username" threads from the "Open Views" forum to the "Dyxum Challenges" forum.

Given my admin powers this is easy to do so I'll do that this evening and also change the instructions in the first post to reflect this change.

So if you can't immediately find your thread just blame me

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Posted By: mikey2000
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 21:04
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:


Looking back in the archives I see that challenges were more varied in the past, not just based on focal length. I regret not being more involved back then. I particularly like one that challenged participants to try new techniques for a month (July 2014) and a week long challenge to photograph the same subject daily, and there were other subject based challenges. I guess these sort of challenges are not around today because they were not popular enough?


I'm sure we can drum up sufficient interest for a week long mini challenge, perhaps in February?   I certainly enjoyed the week long 'challenge your creativity' challenges, with a single subject.   The other good one was the week long 'music challenge' where you post 7 pics inspired by a particular artist or album.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 21:18
The only thing I might suggest modifying the challenge with, is making the start-week a little more flexible. While I’m certainly keen to start on the 4th, I can also appreciate some people might want to join the challenge later in January without sacrificing their two week absence option.

I don’t see this challenge as quite as onerous as others as you can adopt very loose rules for your own challenge. As I’ve pointed out earlier, if I set myself a “shoot with a prime challenge” then with my lens lineup it would be business as usual. The fact we can dig into our archives also means that unlike most challenges, some pics can be posted without ever leaving the house.



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Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 21:32
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

The only thing I might suggest modifying the challenge with, is making the start-week a little more flexible. While I’m certainly keen to start on the 4th, I can also appreciate some people might want to join the challenge later in January without sacrificing their two week absence option.

I don’t see this challenge as quite as onerous as others as you can adopt very loose rules for your own challenge. As I’ve pointed out earlier, if I set myself a “shoot with a prime challenge” then with my lens lineup it would be business as usual. The fact we can dig into our archives also means that unlike most challenges, some pics can be posted without ever leaving the house.
I agree, this is what I said a few pages back on "flexibility":
Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

With such a long challenge we need to be a bit flexible. I'm always more interested in the intent of the rules rather than the exact letter of the rules.
The phylosophy in all the Dyxum challenges is that you challenge yourself, it's not a competition or training course that Dyxum "dictates"

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Posted By: nandbytes
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 22:35
hmmm... considering my amazingly bad completion rate on challenges I shouldn't probably sign on... but its so tempting.... but then I got a whole year to fail!


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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 23:43
off-topic (related) ::: I'd happily throw in a few one-line ideas into a thread of weekly challenges thoughts/options ... perhaps we could compile a list of classic photo topics for people to come and select at any one-week time that suits them. Like a 'Macro week' and a 'mono week' (you do it during any Mon-Sun you want to, 7 days on one topic). Then you pop back in and pick-up 'Pets' a few weeks later (whenever your diary suits). Some players might chose 5 weekly topics in the year, some might select 27 of them.

You would still have the buddy element if someone else is doing their 'Landscape' or 'Cars' week while you are doing 'macro'.

As for start time (Photo 150) - my mind is always wrapped around 1st of the month. And 1st of the year especially. But I know people who've 365'd from their birthday to birthday. I (personally) view a weekly or monthly topic as one sort of challenge. And they are a challenge and very rewarding. I'm looking forward to Oktoberfest already. But they have a short end point. Not saying they are easy. 365s are tough, they feel never ending, they are truly daunting, and they put pressure on - it changes how you think. They are not for everyone. A lot of people fail them. This was created as a viable alternative.

The middle ground would be a quarterly project - calendar Q1 [Jan/Feb/Mar] and then a re-boot for Q2 [Apr/May/Jun]. Swap your topics in/out if you want. I was tempted to add or suggest a Quarterly option to spin your topic out for something else. I doubt I'll be finished on my archive channel by this time next year, so that one will continue as a stand alone.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 01 January 2021 at 23:52
If the timing is wrong for this (he says typing this at 23:50 GMT on 01-Jan already) then perhaps someone needs to come up with a smart title for a quarterly or year long photo project ... my archive for example is NOT gonna be finished in 50 (or 13) (or 52) weeks. So I'd happily jump onto a 'Archive????' channel.

Weekly updates give it focus.

Giving it 3x channels was/is there to provide extra commitment.
Even though all 3x topics can be done in one day.
It is an anti-daily-365-esq idea because they are pretty unreal.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 00:04
I'm possibly going to change my project topics next week - partly dependent on the change/upgrade in our UK "stay at home" rules which might come in next week. Before I posted this here it was a Project 150 (not just photo related). And I may revert to that original plan and concentrate on a new blog (1/3 photography). Really good to see it upgraded to forum wide challenge - if I can find a logical way for this to sync my blog plans then I will. I might also switch to smartphone or pocket compact on my permitted daily exercise walks. So, it is quite likely that I'll not be updating my thread here.

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 04:27
Thanks to @Maffe for sending me this link.

I think I am in. I was considering doing something with primes to help get me back to shooting regularly since 2020w was a bust.

I have so many images that have never left my hard drive, seeing the other posts, going through my archive would be great to share.

On top of that, I've been working on finding and setting up a self hosted solution for my photography and stumbled across a great open source alternative called Photoprism. That has had been going through my images and exporting/rebuilding my albums, one by one, stuff that I had previously posted to flickr/google photos and some really old stuff from when I just got started with Dyxum. It has been quite some nostalgia of seeing some lovely images and images that I felt were great but laugh at now.

1. post from the archive (may try to stick with never published images)

2. post a film/analog image (this is kinda cheating since it is also from the archive but I hope it will motivate me to process six rolls of film and scan a few others that have not been addressed)

3. one shot from a prime (55mm or 90mm macro) - this will be the big lift and I started today on a little outing I did.

Tough these days since southern California is currently the epicenter of the covid crisis in the states.

Hope everyone is doing well !

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 06:41
Originally posted by eddyizm eddyizm wrote:

Thanks to @Maffe for sending me this link.

I think I am in. I was considering doing something with primes to help get me back to shooting regularly since 2020w was a bust.


Great to see you joining in. My motivation is similar to yours. Use the challenge partly as motivation to get back into the routine of weekly photography. The film options look interesting and a real challenge.

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 19:38
BTW - it looks like I am not able to create my thread in the Challenges forum per the instructions in the OP. Any ideas?

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Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 20:39
I'm sorry eddyism, that's something we overlooked.

Pls. create it in "open views" and I'll move it to the right place for you. The forum software is set up such that only mods and admins can create new threads in "Dyxum Challenges"

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 21:42
dCap is 'taking an early bath'

Retiring on day one.

We are now entering a new nationwide lockdown for at least the next 6 weeks. I'll spend a bit more time than planned on the archive and make up some kinda wiggly weekly photo thing once going outside is permitted (for leisure reasons) again.

I'm out.

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Posted By: mikey2000
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 21:58
A shame to see you go! Maybe change your personal challenge topics?   I’ll be sticking with one dog photo, one macro and one from the archive.   I’ll be seeing quite a lot of the dog, I think....

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 22:09
There was a spider in the bathroom the other day but it ran away when I undressed. Can I call my Henry** the hoover my pet? I do talk to him, 'come on Henry, this way'. And have no macro lens (is 50mm for December). Have been without a macro for two years now to get myself outdoors shooting.

(desperate re-jig)
Archive - keeper
Archive - what was I thinking shooting this rubbish
Archive - reject, why it isn't good enough for the portfolio
(nah)

** for viewers outside of the UK, Henry is a vacuum with eyes and a big long nose!

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 22:56
Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

I'm sorry eddyism, that's something we overlooked.

Pls. create it in "open views" and I'll move it to the right place for you. The forum software is set up such that only mods and admins can create new threads in "Dyxum Challenges"


No worries. I'm having to familiarize with the forum software myself again after all these years. :-). I find myself looking for a like link on these lovely posts and comments :-)

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 04 January 2021 at 23:11
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

I'm out.


postponing my right to exit until Sunday, as official fail deadline,
while I re-think multiple ideas

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 05 January 2021 at 04:57
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:


postponing my right to exit until Sunday, as official fail deadline,
while I re-think multiple ideas


I think given the extraordinary circumstances, a special dispensation for the duration of the lockdown is acceptable. Set up something realistic for your constraints and hopefully, you will be able to revert back to your main plan later.

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Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 05 January 2021 at 08:05
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:


I think given the extraordinary circumstances, a special dispensation for the duration of the lockdown is acceptable. Set up something realistic for your constraints and hopefully, you will be able to revert back to your main plan later.
+1, we can't afford to lose our great inspirator for this challenge

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 05 January 2021 at 10:03
thank you for the encouragement, after a sleepless night, current working draft:

Q1 (the lockdown alt version)
Archive - the KM and alpha files (KM7D, KM5D, a100)
Archive - non-KM photos (Nikon era)
Blog-esk 365 - post one best shot of the week (mainly SOOC iPhone!)

365 would be with 'any photo gear'. iPhone through most of Q1, switch to a7II and 28/2 once lockdown is eased.

Calendar Q2 (Apr/May/Jun) ... re-roll/reset the idea and start making a weekly 64:27 (21:9-ish) during photo walks and visits to the local towns. I could aim for "twenty-one 21:9s" instead of weekly, so might make it 'alt format' to include a set of 16:9 and 1:1.

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Posted By: Phil Wood
Date Posted: 05 January 2021 at 11:39
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

I'm out.


postponing my right to exit until Sunday, as official fail deadline,
while I re-think multiple ideas


You could always start later - the idea is for 50 consecutive weeks, do they really have to be all in the same year?

Originally posted by eddyizm eddyizm wrote:

... I find myself looking for a like link on these lovely posts and comments :-)


That would be nice.

My plans have been a little disrupted by the arrival of a houseguest and Lockdown III in England. Lockdown is not really a problem - we are allowed to walk the dog and I am surrounded by countryside, so my landscape theme is okay and old lenses will capture a tree. However, sweeping panoramas are not so abundant within walking distance.

The houseguest is more of an issue - she's a toy dachshund called Minnie, and is tiny. I doubt she'll cope with the normal 5 mile stroll and will have issues wading through the mud that our mutt (Oscar) and I take in our stride. Hopefully she will only be with us for a week or two (her elderly owner had a fall, but no bones broken). I have always been against the idea of a dog in a bag, but I begin to see the attraction - an old shoulder-slung camera bag perhaps...


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 05 January 2021 at 18:08
late starts are not really my jam (no intention to take my 2 week pause either)
I'll figure something out, either 3x50/52s or 1x50 photo

(suggests small pooch travels in rucksack on big pooch like an elephant ride)

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Posted By: Phil Wood
Date Posted: 05 January 2021 at 18:33
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

...

(suggests small pooch travels in rucksack on big pooch like an elephant ride)


I fear that big pooch's habitual careering through scrub would be the end of any small pooch on his back. Tried tiny (she really is stupidly small) pooch out on a 5 miler today - to my amazement she trotted along quite happily for all but the last half mile.


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 06 January 2021 at 22:26
Quick note to anyone (me included) who has listed 'archive' as one of their three channels of challenge for this ...

Holidays, remember them, they used to be a thing (before 2020 happened) - maybe spin a quick 'unless I'm away on holiday' option in.

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Posted By: bonneville
Date Posted: 07 January 2021 at 10:26
Well I’ve read and read this thread, sooo tempted but worried I will not be able to sustain it for so long. Still, if I don’t try, I’ll never know, so:

I’m in    


Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 07 January 2021 at 11:51
Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

Well I’ve read and read this thread, sooo tempted but worried I will not be able to sustain it for so long. Still, if I don’t try, I’ll never know, so:

I’m in    


Welcome aboard (again). Hopefully you'll get nice surprizes along the way - my 366 in 2008 turned into a 500 day version and led me into all sorts of things I'd never have done. This one (Photo 150) is more planned and more structured but will also likely bring a few unexpected things.

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 10 January 2021 at 06:22
Wow, who knew there were so many participants?! dCap and I started this #Photo150 discussion during #Week50mm (yes, I am spending a lot of time on Twitter). I'm in.

When dCap and I were "talking", the goal of this was not to make it a big chore for anyone, unless they wanted the pressure. For me, I will:

**1) I pick a topic/theme the Sunday night prior to the week. For Week 1, I picked "new beginnings". I'll shoot two new shots that are related to this theme.

**2) Go find an archive shot that may or may not be part of theme.

My goal is to shoot more regularly in 2021, with more intent, use all of my gear. And, I also want to organize my archive.

I only skimmed the other posts here. I can't believe we're 5 pages in. Nice to see some old timers here -- Maffe, eddyizm.

I'm off to Open Views!

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 10 January 2021 at 06:42
OK, just posted to Open Views. Good luck, all. Have fun, happy shooting! I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's work.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 00:01
Well, first week is done. 49-51 to go.
What I like so far is that 3 shots per week doesn't put the same pressure on that a Week 50 (or even OktoberFest does). If I can get 2-3 good shots per week and can sustain that I'll be happy. Have appreciated seeing other participants attempts to get a bit creative also.

Also researching new techniques. Will have to try an Orton effect I think, the old school way by taking two pics and combining them later.

I still need to work on my workflow and tidy up my catalogs. My organisation in the early years (2008-9) was poor. I didn't have LR. Photos were put in different folders in different external drives. So even moving to LR I've ended up with a lot of duplicates. And now I'm moving away from LR.

I'm now trying to have a flow that is more efficient. Import photos into ACDSee Photo Home Studio. Sort, keyword, select keepers etc. And the ones that make the cut get sent to C1 (as a session). ACDSee has a very useful duplicate finder as well...I had almost 3000 dups in my 2008 folder (gulp).

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 01:01
@Wetapunga ... let us know how your transition from LR goes. I feel like I'm locked in for a while. If there were a way to move to something different, and kept the edits, I'd consider it.

I miss old Picasa, the super simple photo viewer with simple editing.

Agree, 2 shots a week plus an archive has been comfortable (after a single week, LOL). I could post tons of archives though, so will try to cull that down for my "official" #Photo150 posts.

Keep up the energy, folks!

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 04:17
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

@Wetapunga ... let us know how your transition from LR goes. I feel like I'm locked in for a while. If there were a way to move to something different, and kept the edits, I'd consider it.

...
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Well, both C1 and ACDSee let you import LR catalogs and presumably your edits. They get converted to these programs Catalog settings. Haven’t tested it quite yet as I want to get the LR catalogs free of duplicates before I make the transition. I have way too many photos from my early foray into DSLRs.



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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 04:45
Thanks @Weta ... I'll be doing a lot of clean up in Lightroom this year. After that's done, then I'll try C1. I had researched C1 a few years back and they did not have an elegant import tool.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 12:38
Being an ex-Adobe user. A company I will never connect to again. I'm about to learn Capture One and Affinity Photo, but I've decided NOT to rely on Capture one to do my tags. I'm taking that element 'off-line' so to speak.

This is easy for me as I intend to keep less than 1% of the shots I've fired. And I don't shoot friends/family. My tags will all eventually be on a very simple spreadsheet (usable in anyone's 'spreadsheeting' tool). And for navigation eventually it'll be on my website. Web > tags > Flowers = thumbnails.

Just in case Capture One hire the dope that designed LR's rental scheme in 10 years time. If I'm starting again I'm not getting too deep into anything. Sure there is only one "flickr1000" and only one Adobe rental department ... but PhotoBucket and Tumblr have all had their 'can we be Kodak next' please moments.

Sounds a little paranoid (and is) - but as a very lo-fi web designer I've had 4x web design apps either go out of business or just stop on me. Web design is a degree more complex than filing a bunch of photos. That pain now puts me into typing the HTML code (which is actually quite sweet and nice and leads to efficient design without bloated code). The norm is to use Wordpress but about 80% of the code is not needed.

I'm also on PC (Windows). Was Mac for 1990-2006-ish and Windows from 2007-onwards. My html could switch to Mac tomorrow without absolutely zero effort. I don't want my photo edits baked into anyone else's app. So I'm aiming for the same with photo edits. Now, I have no intention of moving to the Mac or Linux. But I would like the option to without 'oh I need to keep a PC for that one app'. Hard work but being system free is the ultimate goal my end. I've never used Linux but will do one day to prove to myself I can flip-flop.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 12:46
Good to see that this hybrid of the 365 and week-long or month-long is working out. I have high hopes. Monday today. Mission: do not wait until Sunday again to find some archive shots! I intend to post my two archive images during the week ... and only save my 'new image' until Sunday.

As an "oh boy" where do I start with the Archive. I've been good - mostly. My RAWs are all saved in YY / MM / DD folders. Often "DD-London". As that is how I like to organize stuff. But my edited image are in a bunch of different things scattered around various folders. I'll have an 'Oktoberfest' folder with 31 edited images in it for example. And I've got 'KM7D_LRd' meaning that is all/some of the exported JPGs? Dunno. The final image edits have not been so organised - there are layers of organisation. Part of this challenge for me is to move everything to a more logical flow.

Thankfully I've got 'Paris' in the folder name - so I don't have to wonder where that strange pointy tower is in the world.

But I have a road trip from UK to Poland that I've never edited and those are just in 'date' folders. Not sure which country they will be from. And I did the trip twice. So four roadtrips really (there and back). Looking forward to seeing them for the first time!

Part 1 of the archive for me is - ensure everything is in YY/MM/DD structure (all the RAWs are).
Part 2 - go find all my JPGs!
Part 3 - pick a folder, go edit!

Jan 2005 to Dec 2020 is 16 years * 12 months ... so 192 folder. And every day I've shot there is a day folder. I'm intending to try and stick to edit January in January. But I'll jump from year to year.

Soon (this week) I'll make me a tracking spreadsheet so I can see which of the 192 months folders are DONE. Which are EMPTY. Which are WIP (work in progress). Which are RED (not yet viewed/sorted/edited).

I've had months where I've not shot a single frame, so I can get my 192 folder mountain down to 150 (?) - and make the project seem smaller.

2008, while one of my busiest shooting years, should be relatively simple. It is the year I did my 366x and I edited as I went along. So that should mainly be just some filing. But I am re-working/re-editing the better images. It will likely be the first year I finish. Then I might jump to say 2012 if I didn't shoot much that year as an easy win.

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 16:40
I'm also stuck on lightroom. I've moved away from all other adobe products (and windows in general) with only lightroom being the last app I need to keep windows around. I've moved to open source and linux for almost everything.

Has anyone used Dark Table? That's the linux alternative but there are currently no tools to convert lightroom cataglogs over to dark table. This may become my own personal project as I know, speaking to Maffe, we are over a decade deep into lightroom with our collections which I'm sure many others have the same issue.



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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 16:48
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:


Now, I have no intention of moving to the Mac or Linux. But I would like the option to without 'oh I need to keep a PC for that one app'. Hard work but being system free is the ultimate goal my end. I've never used Linux but will do one day to prove to myself I can flip-flop.


Join the dark side.

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 16:48
Yes, Lightroom is a sticky app for sure. At least there are both Windows and Mac versions. At roughly US$10/month it's not bad. I wonder what monthly fee would make me switch? In the old days, film costs plus processing was higher than this, right? Right now, my biggest LR peeve is that I have to login each time I fire it up, or at least it feels this way.

RE: keywords and organizing. I use a dated folder structure with "event/topic" in the name -- something like 2021-01-11 Week 01 Photo 150 - Shop Windows. However, ideally, I have more keywords than this. I have a separate folder for LR exports for social media posting. I'll print from LR for the Dyxum Postcard Exchange.

It's complicated.

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 16:52
BTW, nice to see Dyxum old timers posting again! We were all here during the big transition from film to digital to waiting for Minolta, Konica-Minolta to launch a DSLR. The Dyxum Postcard Exchange has been my primary reason to come back, along with some sporadic participation in Week 50mm, but it's nice that this yearlong challenge will keep me engaged here. Dyxum is definitely one of the more chill corners of the Interwebs. It's really noisy out there!! Ha.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 19:52
Originally posted by eddyizm eddyizm wrote:

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:


Now, I have no intention of moving to the Mac or Linux. But I would like the option to without 'oh I need to keep a PC for that one app'. Hard work but being system free is the ultimate goal my end. I've never used Linux but will do one day to prove to myself I can flip-flop.


Join the dark side.


I'd love to try a Linux machine ... I should do this.
Are Affinity Photo and/or Capture One available.

I've tried 'open source' raw developers - and having an AMD desktop the two I tried completely failed to open. Here even Adobe is better (and that'll be the last time this side of the year 2100 you hear me say that).

I see no reason to move away from Window 10 though as I quite like it.
The asking price of a new Mac laptop is "lens money" though and will get thrown at a camera shop instead.
Apple already got me into an iPhone (from 01-Jan this year, colors are nice).

I've used Chromebooks for 6-7 years, but only for real low power surfing, so technically I've done a bit of Linux but, well, not really!

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 20:13
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

Yes, Lightroom is a sticky app for sure. At least there are both Windows and Mac versions. At roughly US$10/month it's not bad. I wonder what monthly fee would make me switch? In the old days, film costs plus processing was higher than this, right? Right now, my biggest LR peeve is that I have to login each time I fire it up, or at least it feels this way. ....


The price point is only part of the thing here. But, MS Office is about $5/mo and offers significantly more 'things' than LR. LR is a one trick pony.

MS gets most of their income from the enterprise, but suffered from a lot of illegal trade with people swapping copies of office at home. Their solution vs the old price of the full version of Office is remarkable.

A Pro photographer - someone earning good bank from their camera - could be delighted with the $10/mo option. Version updates of LR and PS used to be eye watering! Having that spread out and having the update at 'no extra' is a nice idea. Except when Adobe break something or make their product even slower. In which case, um, tough!

I personally used PS Elements (perfectly good enough) and have used LR since v1. I re-bought PS Elements every 3-4 versions/year and LR every other version. But now (LR specifically) I am not allowed to do that - I must pay the rent. Or leave. Moving away from LR (all my digital files since 2005-2015) and all the edits is painful. But it is a lesson learned. I'm now considering not even using a Raw app at all. Just keeping: Raw file and a destructive TIFF to edit in 'whichever photo app' I chose. My Archive Project will help me decide. I liked using LR (v3 and v4, when it was actually good). So I'm sure I'll enjoy Capture One ... just not convinced I need a raw editor (I don't do batch edits though).

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 21:16
The Creative Cloud "photographer-edition" includes Photoshop and LR. I never had Photoshop in the past, so that's nice. I rarely crack it open though. I only use the basics in LR and would prefer the old licensing model, but switching costs are much higher than the $120/year.

I have never used a RAW workflow. I enjoy the snapping and sharing part of photography the most, and then gear collection! I miss the old days of outsourced film process, get double prints. Ha.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 21:53
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

Yes, Lightroom is a sticky app for sure. At least there are both Windows and Mac versions. At roughly US$10/month it's not bad. I wonder what monthly fee would make me switch?


The thing that made me switch was getting the a7Riii last year, whose raw files LR5.7 won't process. I got C1 (just for Sony) when it went on sale during Back Friday. It wasn't really much different from just a 12 month subscription to LR. It also seems to handle Sony colours really well, and well, I also like the layer function it has.

I got ACDsee home studio as a trial (the duplicate finder is wonderful) and then they had a NY sale so I got it. It may be cumbersome running 2 programs rather than one, but one specialised for photo management and one for processing does have some synergies. Being able to export a batch of selected pics from ACDsee to C1 is not really a big deal.

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 11 January 2021 at 23:52
It's cool to see the Photo 150 project lead to some personal photo workflow re-engineering. I'm always looking for a better path here. With the marginal cost of each shutter click and video "REC" press at nearly $0, how do you manage the flood images, tell your story?

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 00:15
One - positive - I forget on the Adobe situation. While I've used PhotoShop proper (20 years ago) at my dad's place. I've only ever wanted or needed Lite. And I've used Lite (later renamed to Elements) since version 1.

I personally have no need for the extra things that are inside PhotoShop (just like most people use about 5% of what Excel can do) ... but the Adobe Rental Agreement does provide you with the full version of PhotoShop. And that is something that I can see being a stretch for the hobby photographer as a one off purchase.

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 05:08
I get access to Premiere Rush too, for video editing. Yet another app that I don't crack open. I'd like to get into more video, but the learning curve is too steep at the moment.

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 06:29
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

I get access to Premiere Rush too, for video editing. Yet another app that I don't crack open. I'd like to get into more video, but the learning curve is too steep at the moment.


That's a whole another can of worms! Why are my hobbies always the expensive ones?

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 11:41
Having never actually installed Capture One - I'd not realized that there is a Sony flavor and then a FujiFilm flavor (which I'd need for like one whole month of shooting!) ... I think I'm gonna change direction there and just aim for Affinity Photo. I used to edit photos in PS Lite (Elements) before the catalog things were a thing. And I don't batch process anything, so cheaper/easier to not go the library route.

I thought there was a Lite version of Capture One for free which I'd badly assumed would suit all raws from KM, Sony, Nikon, Canon (compact), Oly, Pan, and back to Sony. Not looking to jump out of Adobe's LR into another lock-in option especially if it'll only work for one camera brand.

Shame the open source options barfed when they saw AMD (especially as my production laptop and older production desktop are both AMD). Affinity Photo is a bargain though - so no complaints. Am Adobe free from 01-Jan onward.

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
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Posted By: bonneville
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 15:41
I thought I'd give my macro lens (Sony FE 90mm f2.8 Macro G OSS) a try as a portrait lens, as it is a medium tele prime and I've already set up lights and backdrop in the garage. My assistant (SWMBO) was tied up with an online bridge competition so I tried to encourage Ollie and Rosie to sit for me by myself!

There isn't a lot of room and they are big dogs so it was a disaster. They would sit next to each other okay but as soon as I backed off to take the shot they would join me, for a treat! In desperation I managed to fire of one in focus image (animal eye AF is good, but not that good) before Rosie was on me to give me a good licking.

Please accept this as my feeble excuse for this week's https://www.dyxum.com/DFORUM/photo-150-bonneville_topic139106_post1638530.html#1638530 - Project 1 shot .

When the ring flash turns up I hope to focus ( ) on real macro images, and even try some image stacking


Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 16:59
@eddyizm ... I need to do little video snippets just to get started. But the idea of editing something long, looking at cuts frame by frame does not sound appealing, yet. One day. Pretty much every camera I own has video. So rare that I switch my cams to that mode. I remember how controversial video was here at Dyxum in some of the threads back in the day. Now it's a must have feature, right?

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 20:45
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

Having never actually installed Capture One - I'd not realized that there is a Sony flavor and then a FujiFilm flavor (which I'd need for like one whole month of shooting!)


Fwiw, you can get the C1 'all camera' version. Their pricing strategy (discounts for single brands) means they are more attractive to those of us who shoot one system.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 21:15
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

Having never actually installed Capture One - I'd not realized that there is a Sony flavor and then a FujiFilm flavor (which I'd need for like one whole month of shooting!)


Fwiw, you can get the C1 'all camera' version. Their pricing strategy (discounts for single brands) means they are more attractive to those of us who shoot one system.


Thank you, I did see that (in today's price hike message on DPR - no idea what the original prices were though, didn't read it in detail just looked at the options). Gonna see if I can revert to my pre-library methodology. I've enjoyed LR but it is dog when you put a few years of images in (e.g. 15 years of digital shooting) ... with zero experience of C1 I don't want to find out it is as poorly constructed.

I had a support call with an Adobe agent a few years ago and told him how many images I had in my library. He went a bit quiet. He was actually one of those rare experienced agents who used it himself, he'd un=told me some bad advice I got from the previous dope. This was about converting from an old version of LR classic (before the label 'classic' got applied) and a route to the CC version. Previous agent said you couldn't go from one to the other (wrong). Anyways - he was a bit, like, okay, um, that is a lot of photos. He didn't admit it wasn't designed for people with 15 years of shooting (and I'm an amateur). But I could tell he wanted to just say: um, shoot less, maybe?

Anyways - decided earlier today that perhaps I don't really fit the library model. My tags will be on my website and that is how I'll find my shots. Never needed batch processing - and today shoot single frame advance.

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I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 21:32
@dCap

If it's just photo management you're after, then you could give ACDSee Home a spin. It has a 30 day free trial. And it's not very expensive compared to LR or C1. I'm afraid I went a bit wild in my first few years of DSLR photography and took lots (thousands) of pics, freed from the worry of film development cost. Since then I have slowed down a lot (shot less, keep more).

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 21:42
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

@eddyizm ... I need to do little video snippets just to get started. But the idea of editing something long, looking at cuts frame by frame does not sound appealing, yet. One day. Pretty much every camera I own has video. So rare that I switch my cams to that mode. I remember how controversial video was here at Dyxum in some of the threads back in the day. Now it's a must have feature, right?


Every time I try to do some video, it's just *so much work* and the file sizes are massive these days. Editing just takes so long then you need a whole slew of gear to steady the camera, a good mic, led lighting. Some of those great videos I watch on youtube really take a lot of leg work, planning and post effort.

I have a friend gifting me a GoPro soon so I may need to find some simple workflow solution.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 22:02
@eddyizm & @ADub128

I had to lift my video game last year as Covid19 meant suddenly a lot of stuff had to be done for online, asynchronous delivery.
I did find starting with short clips and learning some basic tool helped. Some of the things we're aware of as photographers carry over to video. Like framing the elements in the shot, attention to lighting. Getting things right in the camera helps before you work on the files.

But yes, it is quite demanding on resources. So much so, I've ended up getting a MacBook Air with the M1 chip (16G, 1TB drive) and FinalCutPro for this year. My 2016 era Laptop (Alienware R15 w16G Ram/4K screen was struggling with the video files). Video clips are part of my 'trying something new' challenge afterall.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 12 January 2021 at 22:56
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

@dCap

If it's just photo management you're after, then you could give ACDSee Home a spin. It has a 30 day free trial. And it's not very expensive compared to LR or C1. I'm afraid I went a bit wild in my first few years of DSLR photography and took lots (thousands) of pics, freed from the worry of film development cost. Since then I have slowed down a lot (shot less, keep more).


Thank you - I don't think I'm aiming for an organizer tool. Before library apps were a thing I just used PS Lite (Elements). And filed my own stuff. I'm used to file management and have kept my RAWs in the same structure for 15 years (which helps). But I've been good/bad/worse/variable on my JPGs. Since my aim with my archive is to rework my edits I'm happy to cut through that.

Back in my mac days I made a FileMaker database of my images - but it was total over design. Was fun as I've understood relational databases ever since. Has been handy in later years.

It is the process of seeing the images again that is of interest to me now. Filing is a simple job - and my eventual take is gonna be:
- photo is good enough for online portfolio (keep RAW, full size TIF and a web size final PNG)
- photo is good enough to decorate a blog post (keep a web size PNG - delete the RAW)
- photo is not good enough for website = delete it**

** I don't shoot family events, so my memories are all photos of walls and doors with 'artistic emotion' only.

I know, everyone keeps all their photos and pays for 10s TB of cloud. But my mission is to put all my RAW/TIF/PNG on one 256GB drive. Well, okay, 3 of them as grandmother/mother/daughter back-ups. But I don't want the 6-7 TB I have today. 128GB would be ideal and a stretch target.

I'm gonna skip straight from heavily embedded in LR to just using a 'PS Lite' alternative. And I'm wanting to not be locked into anything. My websites will be hand typed HTML (even though everyone uses WordPress there are a few things I don't like about it. Being unlocked gives me a sense of freedom and I pay less rent.

Love that I don't shoot video!

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 13 January 2021 at 00:40
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

@eddyizm & @ADub128


But yes, it is quite demanding on resources. So much so, I've ended up getting a MacBook Air with the M1 chip (16G, 1TB drive) and FinalCutPro for this year. My 2016 era Laptop (Alienware R15 w16G Ram/4K screen was struggling with the video files).


lol that's exactly what I'm talking about. In my head, I can't even keep up with edit/publish my photography, video would "sink my leaking ship". Excuses, I got them.

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Posted By: eddyizm
Date Posted: 13 January 2021 at 00:43
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:



I know, everyone keeps all their photos and pays for 10s TB of cloud. But my mission is to put all my RAW/TIF/PNG on one 256GB drive. Well, okay, 3 of them as grandmother/mother/daughter back-ups. But I don't want the 6-7 TB I have today. 128GB would be ideal and a stretch target.

I'm gonna skip straight from heavily embedded in LR to just using a 'PS Lite' alternative. And I'm wanting to not be locked into anything. My websites will be hand typed HTML (even though everyone uses WordPress there are a few things I don't like about it. Being unlocked gives me a sense of freedom and I pay less rent.

Love that I don't shoot video!


I actually switched from flickr a few years back and started using google photos. Now this year with their new announcement, I was like f*ck. Decided, as I have with most other things these days, to look for a self hosted solution. (I recently swapped to a self hosted music solution since google killed google music/play)

I am in the process of moving over my photography to https://photoprism.app/ - https://photoprism.app/ - an excellent solution so far and I have it up and running. Both my music and photos are running out a my home server, easy to replicate, move to another host and backup.



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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 13 January 2021 at 01:13
Originally posted by eddyizm eddyizm wrote:

I actually switched from flickr a few years back and started using google photos. Now this year with their new announcement, I was like f*ck. Decided, as I have with most other things these days, to look for a self hosted solution. (I recently swapped to a self hosted music solution since google killed google music/play)

I am in the process of moving over my photography to https://photoprism.app/ - https://photoprism.app/ - an excellent solution so far and I have it up and running. Both my music and photos are running out a my home server, easy to replicate, move to another host and backup.


That is a neat solution eddy. And in part (for me) the learning in what a lot of us already knew about the flickr model (2006-9 era, when it was relevant as a social site). That being - putting things in a free (or cheap) place is probably not gonna end well. Countless examples of this now.

Google photos, to me, or google drive, has always been a place to put rough stuff. A quick notepad to flip-flop between machines. And for me a place where some of my Android phone photos go. I've never put real photos up there and so have never gone over the free 15GB limit.

I believe in paying for stuff though (some of the misunderstanding of flickr is that people were expecting freebie). But I'll not pay silly prices.

File management/size will keep me away from video for a long time. Plus I think it is such a different medium. Capturing a moment in one image vs the framing of video and story telling ... is like riding a bicycle or swimming - the skill set of breathing is transferable but not a lot else.

PS - I love video - but as a viewer.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 13 January 2021 at 23:46
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

...
I know, everyone keeps all their photos and pays for 10s TB of cloud. But my mission is to put all my RAW/TIF/PNG on one 256GB drive. Well, okay, 3 of them as grandmother/mother/daughter back-ups. But I don't want the 6-7 TB I have today. 128GB would be ideal and a stretch target.

...

Love that I don't shoot video!


Interesting, I think I've got about 1.5TB of photos (accumulated since 2007) and some of those are on a 3TB external drive. I do have a 2 TB cloud account with no subscription fees. And my Zenfolio account has unlimited storage.

Like you I am planning on getting it all down to a much smaller size. Wondering about producing some high quality photobooks of family/kid sports/holiday shots and getting rid of a lot of pics that aren't of interest or decent quality.

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 14 January 2021 at 00:27
Early on in my career, I did "linear editing" of videotapes -- VHS master tapes (video camera output) to VHS edited tape (which became the edited master). Modern non-linear editing could be fun, but I would need to be paid to do it, LOL. Maybe I'll find some joy in it this year. I used to make animated slide shows using those automated tools ... that was sort of fun, but I prefer still photography still.

I agree, I need to cull out the clearly bad images from my archives. I haven't checked how much space I have used.

Who here consistently uses a RAW workflow?

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Posted By: Howard_S
Date Posted: 14 January 2021 at 00:37
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

Who here consistently uses a RAW workflow?
I do, most of the time. Sometimes JPG is unavoidable, but most of the time I use RAW. I just looked in my LR catalogue (spoiler alert I'm very bad at culling photos) and I have ~90k files from A- and E-mount cameras of which ~65k are RAWs and DNGs.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 14 January 2021 at 21:13
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

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Who here consistently uses a RAW workflow?


Depends on how you define 'consistently'.
In the first 2-3 years (2007-9) of DSLR photography no, not really. With a small PC hard-drive and no LR, I had photos stored in external hard drives and DVD backups all over the place. I did like Silkypix as my raw converter but it didn't do much for photo management.

Then I got into LR and things improved. I was fairly consistent, so much so that I could usually find a photo of something I took in China or on some holiday reasonably quickly.

Last couple of years I haven't been really doing much on the photography front so a lot of stuff now is sitting in folders. And because I never upgraded to LR 6 & the start of the subscription model, I came a bit unstuck with the a7Riii.

Anyway, I'm trying to get everything into shape now. Starting with finding an eliminating duplicates. Then I hope to get an efficient workflow and much, much smaller catalogues in place.


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Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 14 January 2021 at 21:34
Originally posted by ADub128 ADub128 wrote:

Who here consistently uses a RAW workflow?
I do, only when the camera doesn't allow it (in-camera panorama, Multi frame NR and those kind of things)

I started in 2006 with a raw converter (forgot the name) that was taken over by Adobe and in response to complaints over misusing their dominant position they gave everybody who used that a free licence to LR 1. That was actually a very good deal since the other raw converter only costed ~60% of the LR1 introductory price. Stopped at LR 6.14 (the last perpetual licence version) which does everything I need. Occasionally I'll use Capture 1 pro or Luminar 4 to render a shot but not more than 5% of my shots and they still all go into LR as my central repository. I now have > 76 k shots in my main catalog and with metadata searches and keywording can quickly locate all of them.

One day I'll be forced to the subscription model but I'm trying to delay that as long as possible.

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Posted By: dCap
Date Posted: 14 January 2021 at 21:40
Yep, I've pretty much shot RAW since 2005. Not always (e.g. some snaps for an eBay ad, I used to remember to flick to JPG only, but the risk of forgetting and not returning to RAW isn't worth it).

I've got files from a few cameras that my operating system won't recognize and I did switch to JPG for some of that. There was also the Fujifilm S5 Pro (Nikon D200 body with a Fujifilm label on the top - that was better as a JPG machine I think?).

If that is what you mean by RAW workflow?

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Posted By: Maffe
Date Posted: 14 January 2021 at 21:51
@ADub128: I shot my first RAW in end of 2005 and started using LR first public beta the day it was released in jan 2006, from that point on I have been shooting and using LR as my catalog and main photo editing tool.

@pegelli: Think it was Light table (?) that adobe bought and renamed. First public beta was MacOS only and free. think I did not turn LR off for an insanely long time after the beta license ended before I was forced to and actually bought LR1.

Tried other catalog and RAW processing apps, but always ended up with continuing with LR.
Funn thing now processing old MRW-files is that it's clear that shooting RAW was the way to go :)

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Posted By: ADub128
Date Posted: 15 January 2021 at 16:18
I should try RAW + JPG one of these days!

BTW, it's only Week 2, but I am realizing that I could probably do a 365 day project as long as it's 7/week and not picture-a-day. When I make a new theme choice Sunday night each week, it makes my photo choices for the week a lot easier. I'm still planning to post 2 new + 1 archive each week, but probably some bonus shots too

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Posted By: Micholand
Date Posted: 15 January 2021 at 19:49
Originally posted by Maffe Maffe wrote:

@pegelli: Think it was Light table (?) that adobe bought and renamed. First public beta was MacOS only and free. think I did not turn LR off for an insanely long time after the beta license ended before I was forced to and actually bought LR1.
Actually it was RawShooter from Pixmantec (Danish company) which was bought by Adobe back in 2006 and incorporated into LR.

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