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Topic: I've done it...
Posted By: Wētāpunga
Subject: I've done it...
Date Posted: 01 September 2022 at 22:47
I now have bought no new lenses for 12 months.
My last purchase was on this day, last year (during the Auckland lockdown). My Batis 135/2.8 (used).

I've beaten my impulse to collect more lenses.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF



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Posted By: mambo
Date Posted: 01 September 2022 at 23:48
Congrats One day; I hope to be in a position like you.........Meanwhile the struggle continues.

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Posted By: skm.sa100
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 02:00
GAS addicts can only stop but never quit!
Congrats on the restraint. It's time to treat yourself to something nice to reward yourself!

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More Dyxumer, less photographer.


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 04:51
@Mambo - thank you. There were a few temptations along the way but in the end, I got there. There's been a few Batis 18mm and 25mm that have turned up used that have made me ponder my resolve.

@skm.sa100 - oh, those words are so true. I think I can reward myself with something a little less photographic

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 11:41
Congratulations!!!
Well done!!
I am at 7 months and suffer from some GAS withdrawal. It is hard, I have some good excuses to look at a normal zoom and a 40mm prime.

40mm:
It fills the gap between my 20mm and 85mm for a three lens (20/40/85mm) set-up.
It fills the gap between my 28mm and 55mm for a six lens (20/28/40/55/85/135mm) set-up.
Thankfully I cannot decide between the Sony 40/2.5 and the Voigtländer 40/1.2

Normal zoom:
It is a lazy convenience lens to me and I was using my Canon 24-70/4L with Sigma MC-11 as my to-go normal zoom. But that combination focusses fine but not great and I noticed some shutter lag. So, I need something native...
Thankfully there is no clear answer which native normal zoom fits me best

Anyway, I doubt I will resist - if the price is right I probably buy a new lens before the year is out. That is why I am impressed. Well done!

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Why not follow me on Instagram? @Addy_101


Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 13:09
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:



I've beaten my impulse to collect more lenses.


So far... ;-) I guess you remain strong!

Congratulations!

My last purchase was an A7iv

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Harm Dörr60/2,8 Samyang14/2,8 35/2,8+1,4 Sigma150600 Sony 28/2 50/1,8 90MG 1224G 1635G 70300G Tamron 2875/2,8 Viltrox 24/1,8 85/1,8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: skm.sa100
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 13:40
... and if we're bragging about being able to stay strong, I'm still on the A-mount.
Try beating that, kiddos!!

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More Dyxumer, less photographer.


Posted By: XKAES
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 13:43
Well done, but if I bought a Batis lens -- any Batis lens -- I wouldn't buy another lens for a year, either. Not because I wouldn't want to -- but because I couldn't.

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Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 20:06
Originally posted by XKAES XKAES wrote:

Well done, but if I bought a Batis lens -- any Batis lens -- I wouldn't buy another lens for a year, either. Not because I wouldn't want to -- but because I couldn't.
That's cheating

Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

... and if we're bragging about being able to stay strong, I'm still on the A-mount.
Try beating that, kiddos!!


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Why not follow me on Instagram? @Addy_101


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 22:58
One is always subject to the temptation of GAS Addy, yeah.
Especially when something turns up at a really good price.

There's been a few times something has turned up that would have filled the gap between my 21mm and 35mm lenses that have made me rethink my resolve. But I never felt I really needed it for my shooting.

It looks like you have a few gaps to tempt you too.

I confess I did get a used a9 earlier this year @Harm vb, so it's just the lenses I have been resisting. But I love that camera and its let me get a lot of wildlife and bird shots I couldn't have got otherwise. SO I'm ok with this expense. I don't think I will be getting any new cameras for a while.



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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: QuietOC
Date Posted: 02 September 2022 at 23:16
If you are looking for a 40mm, Adorama has the Sigma 45mm F2.8 on sale this weekend for $229 with free shipping. The Sigma is rather wide for a "45mm".

I'd also like a native 24-70mm F4. The ZA is a nice size. I'd prefer the G treatment. The Tamron 20-40 F2.8 looks interesting. The collapsing 28-60 kit zoom is alright. I haven't considered that Canon. I have their 22-55 USM APS kit zoom.

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Pentax Q7 5-15 15-45/2.8 8.5/1.9 11.5/9


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 05:09
Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

... and if we're bragging about being able to stay strong, I'm still on the A-mount.
Try beating that, kiddos!!


A praise-worthy achievement, but have you resisted the lure of the wonderful used A-mount lenses now available for sale?

There's a lot more of the rarer, classic lenses around now.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 05:15
Originally posted by XKAES XKAES wrote:

Well done, but if I bought a Batis lens -- any Batis lens -- I wouldn't buy another lens for a year, either. Not because I wouldn't want to -- but because I couldn't.


Ah, a good point. I do only have two and got both used. The 135/2.8 usually retails here for $NZ3299, but I got it used for $NZ1,450. The 85/1.8 goes new for $NZ1,995, but I got it used for $NZ1,100. They're both excellent lenses.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 09:31
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

If you are looking for a 40mm, Adorama has the Sigma 45mm F2.8 on sale this weekend for $229 with free shipping. The Sigma is rather wide for a "45mm".
That is cheap!

However, Adorama does not ship to the EU anymore for some reason. Bought some in the past, but they don't do it anymore. They ship to war torn Yemen, but not to The Netherlands

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Why not follow me on Instagram? @Addy_101


Posted By: angora
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 11:55
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

I now have bought no new lenses for 12 months.
My last purchase was on this day, last year (during the Auckland lockdown). My Batis 135/2.8 (used).

I've beaten my impulse to collect more lenses.


WOW!         CONGRATS!!!

I don't even look at lenses, determined to stay away from stores, auction sites, etc. but they land on my path.

just 2. + some heavily discounted Lensbaby toys -no lenses-, a trigger and a bunch of receivers, that had been on the wishlist for ages, for years and years. (+ a FalconEyes background system, at the local thrift store > E 15).
but think I can justify the purchases? a massive lens to replace dearly missed 70-400 APO, that killed the -screwdrive- AF of A99 the 1st in 2016, (a G-labeled successor with a better reputation ;)), and a faster equivalent of one of my fave ancient lenses, this time WITH working aperture. and half the ('normal' E-bay asking-) price, a cult lens from famous origins, 'as new'.    (because I'm happy with what I have ;)).

@Sashi- you are in very good company! A-mount forever! (unfortunately lacking eye-AF).
@Matthew- that's why my 24-70 ZA has f2.8 on board. ;)

hardly took any pics since november (due to comp. probs). does that count? but saw I made an appearance on Insta. much to my surprise.
(no Instagram account, but entered a photo contest and these people are obv. into Instagram. hardly ever enter contests, other than on Dyxum, but wanted to win a prezzie for a friend. and so I did, won it 2 days ago). on Insta, they changed my name into 'Thurman'. am I a celeb now?

here's to the next 12 months?




Posted By: Coast
Date Posted: 03 September 2022 at 23:19
I don't get chills and shivers up and down my leg every Sony new $1000's of dollars G lens announcement
(other things yes)
probably saved me a lot of $. You can tell by my gear collection__2 cameras, 3 lens


And certainly have never spent a day cycling from camera shop to camera shop

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 00:47
Originally posted by angora angora wrote:



WOW!         CONGRATS!!!

I don't even look at lenses, determined to stay away from stores, auction sites, etc. but they land on my path.



Well, at least you've shown some restraint with your purchases.

I hear you about the action sites/stores thing. During the lengthy 2021 lockdown in Auckland I had too much time to look at lenses for sale, and no real chance to take photos. And the price of the Batis 135/2.8 just kept dropping, week after week.

Avoiding them is a much better way to avoid seeing 'bargains'.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 00:52
Originally posted by Coast Coast wrote:

I don't get chills and shivers up and down my leg every Sony new $1000's of dollars G lens announcement
(other things yes)
probably saved me a lot of $. You can tell by my gear collection__2 cameras, 3 lens



Well, I've never had a desire for Sony GM lenses as they are generally too large and heavy for me to want to carry on long hikes. I freely confess however, I did get addicted to Zeiss Loxia lenses. They were at least, much cheaper. And no new ones seem to be planned, so I think I'm safe for now...

3 lenses is a very compact lineup however, well done.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Hezu
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 13:05
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Well, I've never had a desire for Sony GM lenses as they are generally too large and heavy for me to want to carry on long hikes. I freely confess however, I did get addicted to Zeiss Loxia lenses. They were at least, much cheaper. And no new ones seem to be planned, so I think I'm safe for now...
I think some of the Sony GM lenses are surprisingly small and light: for example FE 1.4/24 GM and FE 1.8/14 GM are not that big for these specs, although sure manual focus primes may offer even more compact solution. FE 2.8/70-200 GM OSS II did also shave off significally bulk off from the earlier version and likewise FE 2.8/24-70 GM OSS II is smaller and lighter than the predecessor. Of course, all GM lenses are expensive, although occasionally one can find some bargains also for those on the second hand market.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 22:25
@Hezu

I think if you tried to replace my lineup with a GM equivalent, it would lead to a substantial increase in weight, bulk (and price!). I agree that for the features (apertures f2.8 or wider) etc Sony has produced some weight savings with their GM lenses. It's still not enough however- especially when you start throwing several lenses into a camera bag- to appeal to someone wanting a lighter, more compact kit.

For example:
The Sony 85/1.4 GM is 820g with a 77mm filter thread. The Batis 85 is shorter, thinner and lighter at 475g with a 67mm filter thread. The Loxia 85/2.4 is also shorter, even thinner with a 52mm filter thread, but it's all metal build takes it up to 594g.
My Zeiss Loxia 50/2 is less than half the weight of the 50/1.2 GM lens (hardly a surprise when you compare the specs).

(I do like the look and size of the Sony 24mm GM lens however)


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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: WestCoastCannuck
Date Posted: 04 September 2022 at 23:26
Congrats! I don't remember the last time I bought a lens. I guess I beat the G.A.S. !!!!!   Well.... sorta. Now I have A.G.A.S. (Astro Gear Acquisition Syndrome)



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A99ii|A77ii|Tam15-30|ZA24-70|M28-135|M35-105|M80-200G|SAL70400G|Σ50 1.4|ZA135|200F2.8HS G|300F2.8HS G|400/4.5|APOii1.4XTC|APOii2XTC


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 05 September 2022 at 00:43
Originally posted by WestCoastCannuck WestCoastCannuck wrote:

Congrats! I don't remember the last time I bought a lens. I guess I beat the G.A.S. !!!!!   Well.... sorta. Now I have A.G.A.S. (Astro Gear Acquisition Syndrome)


Brilliant- so another way to beat photographic G.A.S. is to find another expensive hobby as well!

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: skm.sa100
Date Posted: 05 September 2022 at 03:47
Originally posted by angora angora wrote:



@Sashi- you are in very good company! A-mount forever! (unfortunately lacking eye-AF).



Moving out of A and into E will cost me a LOT of money in upgrades plus a big loss in all of the glass that will only fetch me pennies on the dollar.

The eye-tracking is one of the best features ever, I have to agree.

I've thought for a long time about getting the 200-600G plus maybe the A6600 or other body to go with it for birding. But I do precious little birding (since it's SO expensive - in terms of time!) that it's perhaps barely worth it at all.
I don't do much sports or wildlife so I'm sort of good where I am, at least for now.

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More Dyxumer, less photographer.


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 05 September 2022 at 07:30
Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

@Sashi- you are in very good company! A-mount forever! (unfortunately lacking eye-AF).


My A99m2 does have eye-AF - so.... get one!

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 05 September 2022 at 22:21
Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

...

Moving out of A and into E will cost me a LOT of money in upgrades plus a big loss in all of the glass that will only fetch me pennies on the dollar.

The eye-tracking is one of the best features ever, I have to agree.


All good points. In some ways however, I think it is easier to shift to the E-mount (cost-wise) now, as there are more 3rd party manufacturers undercutting the Sony offerings. You could have a good lineup with just what Tamron now has on offer.
Also, now there are a lot more E-mount lenses available for sale 2nd hand.

On the other hand, yeah, A-mount lens prices are not great. I had a lot of older classic and G Minolta lenses I'd bought used, so I didn't 'lose' that much when I sold them. And the few new Sony lenses I had, I'd years of use from. Which meant in some ways, I'd been 'paid' in years of photos already.

But I've accepted I will own less lenses in E-mount than I did in A mount.

I do love the eye-tracking. It has made shooting events so easy (which as a paid-gig, matters).


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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 18:42
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Anyway, I doubt I will resist - if the price is right I probably buy a new lens before the year is out. That is why I am impressed. Well done!
Well, like I expected, I bought the Sigma 28-70/2.8 DG DN - nice and small. The price at Amazon.nl is €749,- or €100,- cheaper then in most other places so I couldn't resist.

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Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 19:38
You naughty boy

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Harm Dörr60/2,8 Samyang14/2,8 35/2,8+1,4 Sigma150600 Sony 28/2 50/1,8 90MG 1224G 1635G 70300G Tamron 2875/2,8 Viltrox 24/1,8 85/1,8.
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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 19 September 2022 at 22:50
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

... Well, like I expected, I bought the Sigma 28-70/2.8 DG DN - nice and small. The price at Amazon.nl is €749,- or €100,- cheaper then in most other places so I couldn't resist.


I'm sure we're all sitting here being surprised at this latest news...

Do we check back on 20 September 2023 to see if you can make it 12 months without being tempted again?

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 01:21
Still no new lenses have been purchased.
I was briefly tempted by a Tamron 28-200 in case I end up in Nanjing in October next year. You know, as a one lens travel option. But then I decided the Sony 24-105 covered most of that gap anyway and the Tamron added little of value to my line up.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: 4paul
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 01:46
Great job on the lenses, but about the body ...

Over on your Photo 150 thread you you said the a9 was one of the best parts of your photographic year. I guess AF, tracking, card speed, what else?

Does the a9 have "no blackout EVF"? A reviewer said even the brand new a7rv gives the "$&@! you I'm busy" message when the buffer fills, not only can't you chimp while it's writing but you can't do ANYTHING until it clears.

I have new / used lenses, no new body though, I should get an a99ii before the good ones break. In debating a7c vs a7iv vs Fuji GFX50sii, I can't say that any of them are what I want.

For lenses I have to say the Venus Laowa 9/2.8 is fantastic, and I finally have a ZA50/1.4 (A mount), so I am nowhere near clear of GAS yet. I'm trying, I really am! No really I'm trying!

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Posted By: AudioDoc
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 02:00
Congrats on resisting temptation! I have the Tamron and my friends in Germany have the Sony 24-105 G which I have been a able to try out. Some observations, which are probably obvious. The Sony is heavier and does not zoom past 105mm -- but it does do a wide 24mm. The Tamron will have fringing at 28mm in high contrast and has no built in stabilization. There is a some color difference with in camera jpegs. The tamron is warmer and the Sony more neutral. The Sony may be a bit sharper, but the Tamron is sharp enough. I chose the Tamron, but my friends are very happy with the Sony. Traveling with the the FE-16-35 f4 Sony Zeiss and the Tamron is all I need with me for most situations, but I usually carry my Batis 40mm its one of my favorite primes. The Tamron color somehow reminds me of my old Minoltas, but honestly I haven't done any test comparisons. In most situations the 24-105 G would be enough focal range, but i do like shooting longer sometimes -- 135mm, 150mm, 200mm. So for travel for me it is great! When I am going to locations where that I am familiar with and know my subject I will shoot with a prime of the right focal length. Oh, of course the Tamron is less expensive than the Sony and really is a great bargain for how well it performs for travel.

Regards,

Kelly


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 03:01
Originally posted by 4paul 4paul wrote:

Great job on the lenses, but about the body ...


Ah well, I guess by resisting new lenses I did have to funds for a (used) a9. I really like it, also use if for event photography now over the a7Riii.

Originally posted by 4paul 4paul wrote:

Over on your Photo 150 thread you you said the a9 was one of the best parts of your photographic year. I guess AF, tracking, card speed, what else?

Does the a9 have "no blackout EVF"? A reviewer said even the brand new a7rv gives the "$&@! you I'm busy" message when the buffer fills, not only can't you chimp while it's writing but you can't do ANYTHING until it clears.


There's no shutter blackout when shooting at moving subjects which I find amazing. I can't chimp when it is writing to the card, but the size of the buffer and the speed it writes to the card (I use a UHS-II card obviously) means I can keep up shooting in all practical cases. Maybe it also helps the files are 24MP and not 61MP like the a7Rv.

Also, because it has a stacked sensor it does find the subject much faster than the a7Riii (official specs are 3 times faster) which is great at events. It hones in on the subject's eye at what feels instantly, and you've got your shot. Which is also what makes it so good for wildlife and birds as well.

Originally posted by 4paul 4paul wrote:


I have new / used lenses, no new body though, I should get an a99ii before the good ones break. In debating a7c vs a7iv vs Fuji GFX50sii, I can't say that any of them are what I want.


I did like the a7iv on paper, especially as the video tools have got a welcome boost. But if that's not important to you, I guess it's less appealing.

a99ii's vanished here before most markets, so at the point of camera upgrade, I (just) missed out that option. Probably would have gone that way if it had been available. But I do like the E-mount. The pure manual experience of my Zeiss Loxias or Voigtlander lenses is very appealing.

Originally posted by 4paul 4paul wrote:

For lenses I have to say the Venus Laowa 9/2.8 is fantastic, and I finally have a ZA50/1.4 (A mount), so I am nowhere near clear of GAS yet. I'm trying, I really am! No really I'm trying!


There's many fantastic lenses, so GAS is always lurking in the background. Well done on the ZA50/1.4. That was always something I wanted when I was shooting in the A mount.

I guess what makes it easier this time round as I had a very clear idea of what I wanted to photograph, and what lenses I'd need. Unlike when I got my first DSLR (a100) back in 2007...

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 06:01
Hi Kelly,


Yeah, my impression is the Sony 24-105 and Tamron 28-200 both have their own unique strengths and neither is better than the other. But it just doesn't seem sensible to get the Tamron when it overlaps with the Sony to a significant degree, just for the (perhaps) annual visit to China. Plus having the wide end (24mm) is often a good thing in China.

My view of travel photography is that it's more about getting good photos with the gear you do take, rather than trying to take a lens to cover all eventualities. You accept that limitation, or go crazy taking too much stuff. Typically I take a short zoom, a long zoom, and 1 specialist lens if I know there are subjects at the locale I want to take.


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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Miranda F
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 09:49
Maybe it's just me, but after thinking about my own shooting and checking back through my images, I find I hardly ever use the middle of the range in long tele zooms, and when I want the long end I always wish it was a bit longer. When I fit the 100-300mm Minolta APO on the A7 I end up wishing it was a bit wider or focussed a bit closer half the time and being glad of the 300mm end the rest of the time.
I recently bought an A-mount Tamron 28-300mm PZD to use purely as a 70-300mm on the A7 when I need something longer than the 28-70mm or 85/90/105mm portrait/macro. But I usually know whether I'm going to need/want it along on any given day and I don't carry it all the time. Sometimes I just take the 55-210mm E zoom, which is slow in aperture and APS-C but has OSS and the effective length of a 300mm and isn't too heavy. But I hardly ever use it and I've been trying to convince myself that on casual days out the pictures I usually take with the 200+mm lens aren't worth the hassle, and that I'd be better off with a 24-105mm like I used to use regularly on A-mount.
Of course everybody's photography style is different, and I've also been forcing myself to go out with just one prime lens on occasions, particularly when I'm visiting places I go to often.

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Posted By: QuietOC
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 10:55
Just note that the OSS of the APS-C 16-50 OSS, 18-55 OSS, 18-200 OSS LE, and 55-210 OSS does not work on the first generation A7 cameras. It is not clear if the OSS on these works on the cameras with IBIS. There is no note about SteadyShot not working on the VG900, FX6, or FX9.

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Posted By: Miranda F
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 13:38
Good point. I know the camera's steadyshot is deactivated when I put the Sigma 105mm macro on the MC11 on my A7Rii; it is available on Sony OSS lenses but it isn't clear whether the menu item is actually talking abut IBIS or the OSS function. Do we know which bodies claim IBIS and OSS work together? Is that the 5-axis they talked about?

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Posted By: QuietOC
Date Posted: 26 December 2022 at 14:20
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Good point. I know the camera's steadyshot is deactivated when I put the Sigma 105mm macro on the MC11 on my A7Rii; it is available on Sony OSS lenses but it isn't clear whether the menu item is actually talking abut IBIS or the OSS function. Do we know which bodies claim IBIS and OSS work together? Is that the 5-axis they talked about?


I know, how do you test it? The OSS systems tend to make some noise, but so does the sensor stabilization.

I just tried the PZ 16-50 OSS on my A7RIV. It seems very stable with SteadyShot enabled and the shutter half pressed. And it makes just as much noise without the shutter half-pressed.

Sony claims OSS lenses handle pitch and yaw by themselves and the sensor stabilization handles the other axes. The A7RV offers something different with a few lenses, but Sony isn't very descriptive about it.

I am not sure how the MC-11 deactivates the SteadyShot menu option. That is not something an LA-EA adapter does. I had a couple of EF lenses with optical stabilization and seem to remember that happening too with the MC-11. My other EF adapters explicitly support 5-axis with stabilized lenses. Sigma does too for the MC-11 with their supported Global Vision lenses.

SteadyShot Inside should work fine with whatever optically stabilized is attached as long as the body knows that the lens is handling yaw and pitch stabilization, so the body can disable those for the sensor movements. A-mount Sigma OS does not play well with SteadyShot Inside.

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Posted By: Miranda F
Date Posted: 27 December 2022 at 00:00
But interestingly on the (canon mount) Sigma 105mm f2.8 DG macro HSM the OS seems to work well in macro (even when the AF sometimes doesn't...) which never worked well with IBIS, and I always had to turn off IBIS in macro.

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Posted By: QuietOC
Date Posted: 27 December 2022 at 01:29
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

But interestingly on the (canon mount) Sigma 105mm f2.8 DG macro HSM the OS seems to work well in macro (even when the AF sometimes doesn't...) which never worked well with IBIS, and I always had to turn off IBIS in macro.


Yeah, Sony IBIS doesn't seem that great at high magnifications. I have seen that lens distance encoders can be fairly inaccurate, and the A-mount distance encoders are not very precise.

I know the Canon EF 100mm F2.8 L IS Macro does 4-axis stabilization in lens (called https://global.canon/en/news/2009/jul22e.html - Hybrid Image Stabilization by Canon https://www.engadget.com/2009-09-02-canon-introduces-first-hybrid-image-stabilization-lens-ef-100mm.html - https://www.engadget.com/2009-09-02-canon-introduces-first-hybrid-image-stabilization-lens-ef-100mm.html ) It is possible Sigma figured that out too--it doesn't sound like it from the product page. I haven't found any claims like that about the Sony FE 90mm F2.8 G OSS, and I did look before buying it. It is also not on the list of specially stabilized lenses for the A7RV yet--though I suspect that may only be improved yaw and pitch stabilization.

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Pentax Q7 5-15 15-45/2.8 8.5/1.9 11.5/9


Posted By: Miranda F
Date Posted: 27 December 2022 at 09:15
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

   It is possible Sigma figured that out too--it doesn't sound like it from the product page. I haven't found any claims like that about the Sony FE 90mm F2.8 G OSS, and I did look before buying it. It is also not on the list of specially stabilized lenses for the A7RV yet--though I suspect that may only be improved yaw and pitch stabilization.


It rather looks like it, and they did have two years to figure it out before they released their HSM version, which obviously involved new optics and micro from the previous model. Using text on my PC monitor as a macro subject, I can excite both angular and translational movements and the OS appears to compensate for either in the viewfinder, which is great!
Thanks for the link. See also https://www.canon.co.uk/pro/infobank/image-stabilisation-lenses/ - Canon's description


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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 26 May 2023 at 08:00
Well, GAS has got me.

I've just won an auction for a Sony 18-105mm f4 Power-zoom. It turns out the FX30 pulled me in the APS-C direction, and I didn't have any APS-C lenses. And while my Zeiss Loxias are fine as manual focus options, I can't utilise the FX30's excellent AF systems with them. Plus the price was right...

I guess I have to reset the clock now, and see how I get on by 26 May 2024.

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Posted By: pegelli
Date Posted: 26 May 2023 at 09:11
Congrats Kai, I had that lens and it was my most used "walk around" when I was only shooting APS-C. I sold it when I got my Tamron 28-200 for full frame and the 18-105 saw hardly any use anymore, but it performed very well. Emjoy it!

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Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 26 May 2023 at 09:32
Well, congratulations then...

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Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 26 May 2023 at 13:10
Over half a year, well done
Enjoy the powerzoom and AF. It is a well liked lens and with video the powerzoom makes sense. I feel that is one of those early APS-C lenses that might benefit from a mark II version.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 27 May 2023 at 02:50
Hi Pieter,

Yes, I was in a bit of a problem with the FX30 being APS-C. The 24-105 is my favourite walkabout lens, but its focal length (and size) isn't optimal for the FX30. And while the Loxias are great video lenses, they have no AF ability. The 18-105 looked like it hit what I needed. Good to hear about your positive experiences.

@Harm_vb

It was the second lens I'd bid on, the first went above my reserve price. But this came in under my reserve price so I was happy.


@addy_landzaat

Ah, well it was 20 months. I don't think I'll need anything more. The Loxias are fine as video lenses and cover a good range. The Tamron 150-500 works even better as a wildlife telephoto video lens. The 18-105 gives me a good range for a walkabout video lens, plus AF functionality.

The FX30 has a nice feature with a power zoom lever on the body. That lever can also work the power zoom function of the lens, so you don't have to touch the lens. I think it makes a lot of sense as a video-centric lens.

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Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 27 May 2023 at 08:43
I misread your original post. Even more impressive - congratulations

Yeah, Sony now has cameras that fit that 18-105.

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 28 May 2023 at 22:22
Thanks Addy.
If the FX30 had been FF I wouldn't have had the gap I think. There weren't any lenses I really needed for my stills photography, hence the 20 months.

OTOH, an FX30 with a used 18-105 is still a lot cheaper than say an FX3 or a7Siii, so it was the better choice.

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Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 29 May 2023 at 07:24
Well, if you like the powerzoom you'll probably get a Sony E PZ 10-20/4G at some time

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 29 May 2023 at 23:18
Ah well, if one turns up at a good price used, I could be tempted with a 10-20/4 G. In the mean time, I'm hoping the 18-105 will suffice.

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Posted By: AudioDoc
Date Posted: 30 May 2023 at 13:45
Congratulations on the lens purchase! Let us know how you like and do share some photos with us!


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 01 August 2023 at 03:28
Hmm, it seems buying new cameras is a major trigger for lens changes. The FX30 prompted the acquisition of the 18-105/4.

Sold my a9 (will also sell the a7Riii) and bought a (slightly) used a1.
And that's prompted a purchase of a Sony 100-400, which will replace the Tamron 150-500. The Sony is both a lighter lens and can exploit the a1's higher fps.
So more of a rejig of the lineup with no net gain in lenses.

But it still means a reset of the 'clock'.

I'll add a 1.4x TC at a later date.

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Posted By: Mestari
Date Posted: 26 August 2023 at 23:05
I am in the long process of transitioning from A to E mount, so I will be constantly resetting the clock - probably.
Recently I was close to losing my job, there were some redundancies at the company and quite likely more are coming. So I need to feel safe to buy more, but..

Last year, I believe it was November, GAS struck fast and with precision. More than 3 years with no buy (last time it was E 35 1.8 OSS) and then 2 lenses in one go.

My a6000 finally got a dedicated walk-around lens, the Tamron 17-70mm f/2.8 Di III-A VC RXD (those Tamron names...) that proved to have more distortion than I like, more robust optical stabilisation than I expected and was really sharp even wide open. Despite that distortion, a keeper.

GAS showed its ugly face more with me buying a lens I didn't really need but simply wanted. The explanation to myself was that I have never had anything like that before and I would like to see what it is like to shoot with true birding lens.
200-600 G enters the stage. Additional reasoning behind this purchase was my willingness to switch to E mount in full frame as well (I was already shooting with a6000) so it would fit my next main camera.

It took some time but one day I have found a7R5 well priced. I pulled the trigger in June and that quickly made me buy LA-EA5, NPA-MQZ1K (a bit more fancy charger) and microphone ECM-B1M.

But then I needed to go for a short trip and wanted some nice prime. I have always liked the 50 but decided to check how I would like the 35. So, quickly after I got the a7R5 in my hands I got myself 35 1.4 GM.
Absolutely lovely lens! I never knew lens can be so sharp and wide open too. OOF rendition is beautiful and it turned out to be even better focal length for me than 50.

So two weeks later I thought maybe lets switch that old Zeiss 24-70 2.8 for highly prized 24-70 2.8 GM M2. What a mistake that was... I definitely got bad copy but when replacement copy got delayed I decided I won't wait for it and took my money back. I didn't want to go through it again in case it was a whole bad batch.

By the way, that 200-600 is getting some use, although not that much. Still, I like it very much, and I'm glad I didn't buy Tamron or Sigma. It turns out even though I do not make movies, the fact it is balanced so well and zooms internally is helping out a lot in taking stills too. I didn't expect that. I thought it was important for gimbals only.

Recently there were those redundancies in my company, so my willingness to buy is somewhat smaller as you may expect, but don't think this is the end ;)
I do want to switch my main lens at some point. Maybe I will give that GM another chance or maybe I'll go in a different direction. The 70-200 is tempting too. I still don't have anything wide nor super wide.
I'll report my purchase here when it happens, so far my clock reads about two months :)


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 26 August 2023 at 23:52
@Mestari

It's looking like you have the beginning of a good FE Lens kit. The Sony a7RV should keep you happy also. I can see it's going to be tough escaping the GAS with nothing at the really wide end, or a capable 24-70/2.8 Zoom yet.

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Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 11 January 2024 at 21:22
Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:



I've beaten my impulse to collect more lenses.


So far... ;-) I guess you remain strong!

Congratulations!

My last purchase was an A7iv


And after that:
Sony 12-24mm f4 (SH)
Samyang 35mm f1,8 (SH)
Sony 28mm f2 (SH, to be sold: barely used)
was given a Minolta A7000+35-70 f4 + 70-210 f4 Beercan
Sold my beloved Sigma 100-400 Contemporary
Will purchase the Sigma 150-600 f5-6,3 DG DN Sports next monday

Heavily addicted, I guess

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 11 January 2024 at 21:42
Ah, Harm, you do enjoy acquiring lenses.
The 12-24 looks to be a good addition.

What motivated the sale of the Sigma 100-400?

I'm almost at the 6 month-mark (Feb 1) with no new lenses. Or cameras.
I'm being very prudent despite 3 recent contract payments giving me all the cash for some major purchases.



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Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 11 January 2024 at 21:49
When I bought the 100-400 I was actually looking for the Sony 200-600.
But then I saw its size and as I was going to use it during Camping Holidays, it looked to large.
Now we have our own holiday home in France and so the need for a lightweight telelense became less important. I put the 100-400 a few times for sale and this week I received a nice bid, so I have had it almost for free.
And now the Sigma 150-600 is a good alternative for both: range and price are acceptable .

Weight is about the same as the Sony, but for approx €600 less, I guess it is a good lense for what I want.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 11 January 2024 at 22:03
Ah, that makes sense.
I opted not to get the Sony 200-600 because of its size also. The Tamron 150-500 was for a while the better option.

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Posted By: angora
Date Posted: 12 January 2024 at 09:38
(YAYYY), I've done it...
(bought another lens. weighs a ton. ;)
and UP goes the bar, (set) higher and higher... -THX, guys! -).

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

Now we have our own holiday home in France

wow! will you show us around?
perhaps to put the new WA into practice? ;)



Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 12 January 2024 at 09:48
Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

(YAYYY), I've done it...
(bought another lens. weighs a ton. ;)
and UP goes the bar, (set) higher and higher... -THX, guys! -).

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

Now we have our own holiday home in France

wow! will you show us around?
perhaps to put the new WA into practice? ;)


That bar was getting higher at buying my first camera.🤣.
I think that that is a quite common process .

On Flickr you can visit my album "La Loge".
There all relevant pictures are and will be posted...

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Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 13 January 2024 at 10:39
Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

(YAYYY), I've done it...
(bought another lens. weighs a ton. ;)
and UP goes the bar, (set) higher and higher... -THX, guys! -).



What heavy stuff did you buy?

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https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 13 January 2024 at 10:45
He didn't, but I will do next Monday: Sigma 150-600 Sports of 2100grams

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 10:21
He is a she , but congrats Harm!


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Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 10:23
Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

He is a she

Sorry Angora

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: angora
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 11:32
hahaha
THX for the clarifycation, Fred! (or revealing the secret? ;)
why the ? ).
(still) Minolta 80-200 APO / 2.8 High Speed on this side.
(haven't bought a single lens since the end of december! ).

considered the 200 APO HS G prime as well, but think it w/b less versatile, as the 80-200 can generate incredible sharpness + lovely bokeh anyway. for now. they don't have to cost an arm and a leg? when lucky.
actually trying to find the A-mount equivalent for -something like- Canon -excusez-le-mot- 200, f/2, i.e. ultimate blur.
or would I want the 1.8 version of beloved 135mm -to almost 'eliminate' BGs-,
that also weighs a ton, afaik, and costs a fortune?   

thought to have read once it doesn't weigh much? ;) (if I recall correctly?). but Harm wins!
2+ kilograms make me wonder what the 'sports' stands for.
but CONGRATS!
and TY! found the 'La Loge'-album, really pretty!! (so an even bigger CONGRATS on that!). seen the surroundings, but not a doorstep in sight yet? (wondering... -but can understand if you don't want to invite any 'strangers' in- ).



Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 11:41
The doorstep is not yet visible, but the white fronts of the house can be seen in the newest picture. Almost in the middle of that one you see two white fronts. That's the house🥰. But also the one with the blue 2CV shows our holiday home.

And why I put the😚 with the sorry? I guess we must have met in one or another DM?

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: AudioDoc
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 15:44
Had to go back to the original post to refresh my memory as to what this thread was all about! -- and its GAS! A very serous illness Recent chatter had me confused, but then I confuse easily recently!

My last case of GAS was May 2022 when I purchased the Tamron 28-200mm f/2.8-5.6 Di III RXD. This lens may have actually cured this very serious disease! It made me question why I purchased all those other lenses when most of the time this one is all I need as a non-professional photographer. Or so it seems! I do sometimes use my FE-16-35mm f4 ZA if photographing in tight spaces.

Oh, oh! I've recently been looking at the Tamron 20-40mm f/2.8 Di III VXD as an alternative to the 16-35 ZA! I don't feel so good -- maybe the disease is returning?


Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 15:54
Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

I don't feel so good -- maybe the disease is returning?


It is always there, no cure possible

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Hezu
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 16:48
Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

Had to go back to the original post to refresh my memory as to what this thread was all about! -- and its GAS! A very serous illness Recent chatter had me confused, but then I confuse easily recently!

My last case of GAS was May 2022 when I purchased the Tamron 28-200mm f/2.8-5.6 Di III RXD. This lens may have actually cured this very serious disease! It made me question why I purchased all those other lenses when most of the time this one is all I need as a non-professional photographer. Or so it seems! I do sometimes use my FE-16-35mm f4 ZA if photographing in tight spaces.

Oh, oh! I've recently been looking at the Tamron 20-40mm f/2.8 Di III VXD as an alternative to the 16-35 ZA! I don't feel so good -- maybe the disease is returning?
But if you switch from CZ 16-35 to Tamron 20-40 you might get another attack of GAS since you might need one more lens to cover the wider end that you loose...

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Posted By: AudioDoc
Date Posted: 14 January 2024 at 17:17
Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:


Oh, oh! I've recently been looking at the Tamron 20-40mm f/2.8 Di III VXD as an alternative to the 16-35 ZA! I don't feel so good -- maybe the disease is returning?
But if you switch from CZ 16-35 to Tamron 20-40 you might get another attack of GAS since you might need one more lens to cover the wider end that you loose...


That's true, but I did say alternative. I'd still have the ZA. The Tamron would be a smaller, lighter and faster wide angle zoom for travel which would Pair nicely with the 28-200 for air travel.

Personally, when I know what my subject and the conditions are, I might use one of my Zeiss Batis prime lenses. At least locally where it's easier to transport more than one lens.


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 01:36
Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

Had to go back to the original post to refresh my memory as to what this thread was all about! -- and its GAS! A very serous illness " ...


I see it as more of a confession/support group category of thread

I'm coming up to 6 months (1 Feb) with no new lenses, which is not as good as my previous best of 22 months. But I think I have another long run ahead of me. Despite a few tweaks since the full move to the E-mount, my lens set has been very stable.



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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Jozioau
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 06:58
Should Dyxxum set up and run "Photography GAS Addicts Anonymous"? Where we meet by Zoom on a regular basis and each participant starts by declaring to the group "My name is ...., and I'm a GAS addict", and we can then work through a 12 step program and support one another?
Maybe that's all too hard, and we just grapple and occasionally succumb as we're currently doing.

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"Your first 10,000 photographs are your worst" - Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 19:04
My name is Harm and I'm a GAS-addict: today I received my SH Sigma 150-600 Sports f5-6,3 021 and what a beast of a lens it is. Wow.

No need to be ashamed about this purchase

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Harm Dörr60/2,8 Samyang14/2,8 35/2,8+1,4 Sigma150600 Sony 28/2 50/1,8 90MG 1224G 1635G 70300G Tamron 2875/2,8 Viltrox 24/1,8 85/1,8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 19:43
My name is Fred and I am a GAS addict: today I bit the bullet on a deal for a Sigma FE 2.8/24-70mm with a well known forum member.

No need to be ashamed about this purchase

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https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 19:45
Originally posted by Jozioau Jozioau wrote:

Should Dyxxum set up and run "Photography GAS Addicts Anonymous"? Where we meet by Zoom on a regular basis and each participant starts by declaring to the group "My name is ...., and I'm a GAS addict", and we can then work through a 12 step program and support one another?
Maybe that's all too hard, and we just grapple and occasionally succumb as we're currently doing.

It's probably gonna be a large group

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/147603320@N02 - My Flickr    
https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 19:51
Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

...
It's probably gonna be a large group


And possibly ineffective. Can you imagine how it would work?

Member A: "Help, I'm being tempted by a new lens purchase"
Member B: "Be strong, you can do this, what lens is it?"
member A mentions the lens.

Member B "Oh wow, that's a cool lens, you should totally do it"
Member C "I've got that lens, its great, buy it!"
Member D "That's just what you need, you should definitely buy that. And also this lens"

Member A: "I'm not sure this is how the support is supposed to work..."



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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 19:56
And this is indeed how it works.... who's next?





Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction


This group looks more like a bunch of little boys, counting their marbles: I've got 10 blue marbles, 7 green marbles and only 1 yellow one. You?

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Harm Dörr60/2,8 Samyang14/2,8 35/2,8+1,4 Sigma150600 Sony 28/2 50/1,8 90MG 1224G 1635G 70300G Tamron 2875/2,8 Viltrox 24/1,8 85/1,8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 20:02
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

...
It's probably gonna be a large group


And possibly ineffective. Can you imagine how it would work?

Member A: "Help, I'm being tempted by a new lens purchase"
Member B: "Be strong, you can do this, what lens is it?"
member A mentions the lens.

Member B "Oh wow, that's a cool lens, you should totally do it"
Member C "I've got that lens, its great, buy it!"
Member D "That's just what you need, you should definitely buy that. And also this lens"

Member A: "I'm not sure this is how the support is supposed to work..."


Sounds like effective support to me

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/147603320@N02 - My Flickr    
https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 20:04
Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:


Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction

Thanks Harm, I considered that one as well, but would miss the 4mm at the wide end probably

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/147603320@N02 - My Flickr    
https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 20:06
Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:


Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction

Thanks Harm, I considered that one as well, but would miss the 4mm at the wide end probably

SEL1635Z and/or SEL1224G an idea???

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Harm Dörr60/2,8 Samyang14/2,8 35/2,8+1,4 Sigma150600 Sony 28/2 50/1,8 90MG 1224G 1635G 70300G Tamron 2875/2,8 Viltrox 24/1,8 85/1,8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 20:57
My name is Wētāpunga, and I'm GAS addict:

It's been 175 days since my last camera purchase and 169 days since my last lens purchase.

I am not ashamed

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 21:20
Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:


Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction

Thanks Harm, I considered that one as well, but would miss the 4mm at the wide end probably
People differ, but for me 28mm is plenty wide for most situations. If I want to go wider, I usually want to go wider then 24mm. So, I picked up the Sigma 28-70/2.8.

28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....

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Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 16 January 2024 at 21:57
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....


The old Minolta 28mm f2 was one of my favourite lenses and focal lengths. I'd be tempted by a good Sony 28mm. Their current 28mm isn't up to the standard of my Loxia lenses, and the Sigma 28mm too large.



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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: AudioDoc
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 02:00
It would seem Gas is Terminal illness!

Its been 611 days since my last lens purchase! I'm proud of myself for resisting temptation!

Wētāpunga, I also have my Minolta 28mm f2. I've taken many photos with that lens that I've been very pleased with. It was my wide angle lens when I purchased my original A7 (With LA-EA4) The A7 was was purchased with the FE 55mm f1.8 ZA. I also used my Minolta 70-210mm f4 with it.

I still have my A7 with my 24-70mm f4 ZA attached and use it at my son's house in CA, near Joshua Tree. The truth is, all of the this gear is capable of capturing great photographics! It's more up to us as photographers as to whether the photos are worthwhile. For our posts here on Dyxum, no one will notice the difference between that 10 year old 24-70mm f4 AZ and a 24-70mm f2.8 GM II. Though the differences in sensor resolution and lens IQ might, just might, make a difference in really big prints.
However, I admit that it is alway fun to try new gear. I'm always interested in what new cameras and lenses are coming out for the Sony FE mount. It's just a matter of resisting the Gas temptation and understanding that the tempting lens might not be something that will make much of difference in your photographs so it might not be something that you really need!



Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 03:49
You're an inspiration to many of us Kelly

I agree on the point about displaying images on Dyxum (or the internet generally). Older lenses are still very capable. But yeah, its also fun to 'geek out' in the new gear.

That said, there are some reasons why I like newer gear. I shoot events and sell prints. Having a more modern camera means the photos are better in low light, and it snaps to focus much faster. I'd much rather have the focusing speed and eye-detection algorithm of an a9 or a1 than say an a77 or a900. And the difference in ISO performance is extraordinary. Getting the shots the client wants is worth some camera investment.

There's also an advantage with producing larger prints as you note. For example, my 21mm Loxia beats the Minolta 20mm f2.8. It does better with distortion, edge-sharpness and detail.

And there's also a weight/size factor. While it doesn't always follow, many modern E-mount lenses are smaller and lighter than the older A-mount options.

Plus the combination of dual linear motors and the focusing speed, high ISO performance of modern E-mount cameras, means some shots in gloomy conditions are possible when they weren't with my older gear.



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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 07:52
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....


The old Minolta 28mm f2 was one of my favourite lenses and focal lengths. I'd be tempted by a good Sony 28mm. Their current 28mm isn't up to the standard of my Loxia lenses, and the Sigma 28mm too large.
If money is tight, the Sony is fine, but no where close to your Loxia's. But there is not really anything else. The Viltrox 28/1.8 also not really better then the Sony. It is surprising there are so few of them - the Ricoh GR and Leica Q have 28mm and are extremely popular.

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Why not follow me on Instagram? @Addy_101


Posted By: AudioDoc
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 13:31
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

You're an inspiration to many of us Kelly

I agree on the point about displaying images on Dyxum (or the internet generally). Older lenses are still very capable. But yeah, its also fun to 'geek out' in the new gear.

That said, there are some reasons why I like newer gear. I shoot events and sell prints. Having a more modern camera means the photos are better in low light, and it snaps to focus much faster. I'd much rather have the focusing speed and eye-detection algorithm of an a9 or a1 than say an a77 or a900. And the difference in ISO performance is extraordinary. Getting the shots the client wants is worth some camera investment.

There's also an advantage with producing larger prints as you note. For example, my 21mm Loxia beats the Minolta 20mm f2.8. It does better with distortion, edge-sharpness and detail.

And there's also a weight/size factor. While it doesn't always follow, many modern E-mount lenses are smaller and lighter than the older A-mount options.

Plus the combination of dual linear motors and the focusing speed, high ISO performance of modern E-mount cameras, means some shots in gloomy conditions are possible when they weren't with my older gear.



You won't get any argument from me on those points. You may remember I have the complete Zeiss Batis set, though none of the Loxias ( yet). Also I don't have a 61 Mp sensor yet, but do have the 42 Mp, A7IIIa and do like to print as large as my Epson R1900 will alow (13 x19) I wonder how many here print?

I like the rendering of my Zeiss lenses -- also the Sony Zeiss lenses. A shame Zeiss has given up on designing new FE mount lenses!

I wonder how the Sony FE 20mm f1.8 G compares with your Loxia 21? Oh, oh, I shouldn't be discussing cameras and lenses I don't have -- could cause Gas!


Posted By: Hezu
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 14:21
Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

I wonder how the Sony FE 20mm f1.8 G compares with your Loxia 21? Oh, oh, I shouldn't be discussing cameras and lenses I don't have -- could cause Gas!
At least that Sony has much better autofocus and the one millimeter difference in focal length might be crucial...

PS. I haven't bought any new lenses for 383 days, although I do have bought few other pieces of camera equipment later...

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Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 18:59
Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:


Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction

Thanks Harm, I considered that one as well, but would miss the 4mm at the wide end probably

SEL1635Z and/or SEL1224G an idea???

It's all on the longlist 😂

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/147603320@N02 - My Flickr    
https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 19:02
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:


Congrats Fred, I told my self I had the Tamron 28-75 already with lots of satisfaction

Thanks Harm, I considered that one as well, but would miss the 4mm at the wide end probably
People differ, but for me 28mm is plenty wide for most situations. If I want to go wider, I usually want to go wider then 24mm. So, I picked up the Sigma 28-70/2.8.

28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....

Looking in my LR library, 24mm is used quite often by my. I have a Tamron 28-200mm which I like a lot but often miss the bit wider option

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https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 20:44
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

... If money is tight, the Sony is fine, but no where close to your Loxia's. But there is not really anything else. The Viltrox 28/1.8 also not really better than the Sony. It is surprising there are so few of them - the Ricoh GR and Leica Q have 28mm and are extremely popular.


Yeah, I find it surprising too. 28mm is a pretty standard focal-length and fills the gap between 20/21mm and 35mm pretty well.
With the wealth of lenses we have available in the E-mount, the absence of a good 28mm prime seems odd.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: AudioDoc
Date Posted: 17 January 2024 at 23:32
That post confused me a little because it referred to your Loxia, which is a 21mm, but then is talking about 28mm lenses. There are choices for 20mm but yes, not a much choice for 28mm primes. I'm fine with 28mm on my Tamron 28-200, but I don't know if I'd buy a 28mm prime. Its a personal choice. I do have the Minolta 28mm f2.0, not to be confused with the cheaper f2.8 lens. Its a fine lens and not too big, at least without adapter.

I'd not been much of a fan for zoom lenses in the past, until I noticed photos and reviews posted with the Tamron 28-200mm and decided I'd try it as a travel lens. Boy what an eye opener. Pay attention to the many examples posted by Dyxum photographers here. I've concluded its more than just a good travel lense. Definitely a great all-arounder at a resonable price, when you don't need a faster zoom.


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 18 January 2024 at 00:23
The aspiration for a 28mm lens was one that was on par with my Loxia lenses Kelly. If Zeiss had produced a Loxia 28mm instead of the 25mm, I think it would have been in my kit a while ago .

I do agree about the quality of Zooms now. I think I'd be almost as happy with a kit consisting of the 16-35/2.8 GM, 24-70/2.8 GM, the 100-400mm GM and a macro or two instead of my current kit.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: QuietOC
Date Posted: 18 January 2024 at 01:15
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


28mm is very versatile. I probably will pre-order when Sony releases a 28/1.4G that is priced and sized like my 20/1.8G. Would be a first for me....


The old Minolta 28mm f2 was one of my favourite lenses and focal lengths. I'd be tempted by a good Sony 28mm. Their current 28mm isn't up to the standard of my Loxia lenses, and the Sigma 28mm too large.

The Sony FE 2/28 is better than the Minolta 28mm F2. Sharper, much nicer background out-of-focus.

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Sony A7RIV LA-EA5
Pentax Q7 5-15 15-45/2.8 8.5/1.9 11.5/9


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 20 January 2024 at 23:51
Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

He didn't, but I will do next Monday: Sigma 150-600 Sports of 2100grams


Interesting lens review- you seemed a little disappointed in the lens in it- a bit too unwieldy and not as sharp as you'd hoped?

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 21 January 2024 at 07:39
Indeed, sharpness compared to the sold Sigma 100-400 is less.
Shooting Jupiter with its 4 visible Moons gave me just a white spot, with no visible Moons.

Maybe I need some practice .

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Harm Dörr60/2,8 Samyang14/2,8 35/2,8+1,4 Sigma150600 Sony 28/2 50/1,8 90MG 1224G 1635G 70300G Tamron 2875/2,8 Viltrox 24/1,8 85/1,8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Fred_S
Date Posted: 21 January 2024 at 09:20
No regrets I hope?

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https://www.instagram.com/fred_s_photography - My Instagram


Posted By: Harm vb
Date Posted: 21 January 2024 at 09:24
No... The extra mills are extending the possibilities and make me more lazy🫣.

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Harm Dörr60/2,8 Samyang14/2,8 35/2,8+1,4 Sigma150600 Sony 28/2 50/1,8 90MG 1224G 1635G 70300G Tamron 2875/2,8 Viltrox 24/1,8 85/1,8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/harmvanbeek/ - Flickr


Posted By: Wētāpunga
Date Posted: 01 February 2024 at 03:11
And today I hit the 6-month mark for no new lens purchases.

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α1- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 & 100-400/4.5-5.6; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Sony 135/2.8 STF


Posted By: addy landzaat
Date Posted: 01 February 2024 at 07:01
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

And today I hit the 6-month mark for no new lens purchases.

Congratulations

Originally posted by Harm vb Harm vb wrote:

No... The extra mills are extending the possibilities and make me more lazy🫣.
I saw some nice pictures by you with the Sigma 150-600. Well done

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Posted By: Mestari
Date Posted: 02 February 2024 at 14:40
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

I do agree about the quality of Zooms now. I think I'd be almost as happy with a kit consisting of the 16-35/2.8 GM, 24-70/2.8 GM, the 100-400mm GM and a macro or two instead of my current kit.


If you have my luck, no you wouldn't ;)
I finally am somewhat content, but not happy, with my second copy of 24-70GM II and I still need to shoot more with 70-200GM II to see if it is good enough (but it seems it should be good).
I had no problems with 35 GM but it looks like it focuses way slower after updating A7RV firmware to latest version.
12-24 GM was a disaster.

Overall, if I knew I had so many problems with Sony gear, I would have bought Canon R5. Then I would be able to tell you everything about Canon gear faults ;) Possibly just my super bad luck...

Because of that I think I won't buy any super wide angle zoom lens and instead will try to buy 14GM and 20G.



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