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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2011 at 23:42
Originally posted by Stanbury Stanbury wrote:

I'll be interested to see what the so-called 'NEX Pro' has.

Start a NEX Pro thread to talk about that. Has nothing to do with the A77.

A 24MP sensor, a good EVF and build quality (to match that in the A77), and no translucent mirror. What's not to like?

Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Let's see, the most obvious I can think of are:
- slower AF speed than in DSLR/SLT models
- adapter required for mounting A-mount lenses
- with that adapter AF only works with lenses that have builtin motors

- and no compatiblity with the Minolta/Sony flash system.

Different evolutionary paths. The NEX may inherit the earth, but it hasn't happened yet. Again, fodder for some other thread.
 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2011 at 23:52
Originally posted by Beachrider Beachrider wrote:

Why are you guys in-love with an arbitrary ISO number? There is nothing magical about ISO-50. It was just useful because of the inherent sensitivity of photo-chemicals. There isn't any reason to expect sensors to have similar sensitivity.

Am I missing something?


If you want to use a slow shutter speed and don't have the necessary ND filters, it can be useful.. however if you lose dynamic range it is less useful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2011 at 23:58
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

- and no compatiblity with the Minolta/Sony flash system.

Different evolutionary paths. The NEX may inherit the earth, but it hasn't happened yet. Again, fodder for some other thread.
Who says that.
No reason to believe a bigger body does not use the iISO hot shoe.
Esp if it comes with build in EVF (that isn't even available for the NEX 3/5 port).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:01
A couple of things we can learn from the picture that we didn't know - the camera has raised numerals on the mode dial like the a900 (but unlike the a850) and the body finish appears to be the dark matte of the a850, rather than the satiny a700/a900 finish.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:01
Whoa! The SLT family continues to exhibit the 'sexy' gene...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:04
Originally posted by Sick Sick wrote:

Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

- and no compatiblity with the Minolta/Sony flash system.

Different evolutionary paths. The NEX may inherit the earth, but it hasn't happened yet. Again, fodder for some other thread.
Who says that.
No reason to believe a bigger body does not use the iISO hot shoe.
Esp if it comes with build in EVF (that isn't even available for the NEX 3/5 port).


Who says what? What exactly is your question? What exactly is your point?
 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:25
Re: A77 - Looks like the hot shoe and tilting rear LCD could obstruct each other.

Re NEX: If people are going to discuss that horrid little - and almost useless - camera range in this thread, which has nothing to do with NEX cameras. Then I can not see why I shouldn't start talking about my Panasonic G1 in this thread either - after all it does use all my Sony lenses.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:29
Originally posted by RubberDials RubberDials wrote:

A couple of things we can learn from the picture that we didn't know - the camera has raised numerals on the mode dial like the a900 (but unlike the a850) and the body finish appears to be the dark matte of the a850, rather than the satiny a700/a900 finish.


looks like the same mode dial on the 580 actually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:36
Originally posted by dca1213 dca1213 wrote:

Originally posted by RubberDials RubberDials wrote:

A couple of things we can learn from the picture that we didn't know - the camera has raised numerals on the mode dial like the a900 (but unlike the a850) and the body finish appears to be the dark matte of the a850, rather than the satiny a700/a900 finish.


looks like the same mode dial on the 580 actually.


It does. With two extra settings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:42
People don't care about ISO 50 or if it was ISO 45 or 55, the point is many folks want lower ISOs. Film had very low ISOs, options. This is important if you want to take longer photos.   I honestly think the number of folks who want low ISOs is similar to those who want pointlessly high ISOs, so why shift one way.

Sensors just have one sensitivity, it's base. Everything from there on is boosted with circuitry (power). A sensor will always perform it's best at the lowest possible ISO.    Shifting things up just becomes a pain to folks who use those low ISOs. People don't want to have to put ND filters on their lenses. Just like any other filter, people want to avoid filters, it's a pain and it's cost. Also if a person was putting ND filters on at ISO25, and now they only have ISO200 as the base, they have to add more filter to make up for that just to get to where they were.

Originally posted by Beachrider Beachrider wrote:

Why are you guys in-love with an arbitrary ISO number? There is nothing magical about ISO-50. It was just useful because of the inherent sensitivity of photo-chemicals. There isn't any reason to expect sensors to have similar sensitivity.

Am I missing something?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:45
I want a better idea what is going on with that screen. First thing that popped into my mind was Fatboy Slim video, go 55 seconds in. Interestingly, I like to think that's what Sony engineers look like too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:50
It's good to here they both have GPS, if Sony blew that one after the success of the A55, that would have been dumbfounding. In interviews reps had said GPS will come on the higher end models in the future, so it's good to see it stays.

Lets just hope this holds for "NEX-Pro"

I agree, such camera should have it's own thread, but it is semi-relevant as it probably shares many the features of an A77.   Folks should probably look at lots of things as "how does this work for both systems" as they will probably share more than not. So how something might work in an SLT body may be helped/narrowed down by considering how it would work in a NEX body as they would probably want things commonly implemented.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:51


I've always thought of you as more jazz and easy listening than block-rocking beats PT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 00:56
I dislike Jazz.

Not much of a fatboy slim person, though it's ok. But I have always liked that scene (girl before is ok too).

Also as an engineer, I always tend to think of engineers from the 70s always looking like that (the dudes with fro's)
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