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addy landzaat ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 13691 |
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Yes indeed, the same results, very nice models this time
![]() If I was a pro photographer I would get the Zeiss, but as it is I'm very pleased with my Minolta. Btw, I find the Minolta reacts well to some sharpening in post, I suspect the resolution is better then it seems, but it lacks in micro-contratst.... |
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Lesuave ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 27 December 2007 Country: Guadeloupe Location: Caribbean Status: Offline Posts: 443 |
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This is an update as someone wanted to see some pics with a real model.
Same remarks about bokeh (minolta wins) and sharpness (zeiss wins). Colours are quite the sames. Thank you wife and son. ![]() ![]() ![]() A few more natural portrait: Minolta @ 3.5 ![]() Zeiss @ 3.5 ![]() Zeiss @ 3.5 ![]() |
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Jocelynne ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 17 June 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 2819 |
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My profound appreciation for this thread and for the professional quality testing and discussion. By coincidence, the lenses tested are the lenses which particularly interest me, currently. Your work and discussions provided practical material for a practical application for me.
Thank you, much. ![]() JL |
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Lesuave ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 27 December 2007 Country: Guadeloupe Location: Caribbean Status: Offline Posts: 443 |
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Thank you. I read the first thread you linked on. An old one. What I understand is that the coating seems to be the explanation of flare issues with the minolta. I had read already the second thread before buying the minolta in order to replace the junk hood as soon as I could get the lens. Not sure but I think I stole the idea to mount the canon hood on the Sony minolta French forum. I remember I also was amazed by all the efforts you deployed to tinker a decent hood. |
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Maybe a fellow Dyxumer could volunteer to pick up where Kurt leaves off? Maybe Kurt needs a ghost writer? ![]() |
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addy landzaat ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 13691 |
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The Minolta also wins on bokeh imho. You prefer the Tamron 28-105/2.8 over the Zeiss 24-70/2.8 because of colortone? Did you ever tried the Minolta? It might be the one for you..... Re. MFD: I hardly ever find it a problem. When I expect it to be a problem, I take my 50/1.4 in stead of the Minolta 28-70/2.8. |
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With a 3D printer ![]() It's a bit like a single nozzle inkjet, except that instead of ink it exudes melted plastic. It positions a blob then moves a bit and positions another blob. It carries on until it's laid down a 0.3mm thick layer of plastic onto the 'stage'. It then moves the print head 0.3mm up and repeats the process to lay the next layer of the object being printed. RepRap H |
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Blame ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 14 October 2010 Country: United Kingdom Location: London UK Status: Offline Posts: 2626 |
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Sorry if I sound stupid but how can you print in 3D?
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niji ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 03 May 2007 Country: Australia Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
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Did you succeed to get a useful one ?[/QUOTE] No, in the end I decided even if I did buy a 3D printer, my skill with the a modelling package would fail me. link |
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Lesuave ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 27 December 2007 Country: Guadeloupe Location: Caribbean Status: Offline Posts: 443 |
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I forgot to talk about the MFD but indeed, this factor has to be pointed out. Actually, besides sharpness and focusing gaining almost 50 cm in MFD encouraged me to upgrade.
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MichelvA ![]() Alpha Eyes group ![]() Knowledge Base Contributor Joined: 26 April 2008 Country: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 19674 |
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Very good comparison, actually the best i've seen so far. Agree with Addy for the colors. For me/my 28-70G the differences at f/2.8 seem less, but still there. The contrast in back lit situations has been touched by me a long time ago. This is where the Minolta goes down. Unless - as you rightfully mention - if one like the hazy look.
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niji ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 03 May 2007 Country: Australia Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
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I came to similar conclusions between the CZ (sharp & fast), M (creamier & nicer colour to my eye) & KM (great great value). It wasn't the IQ that was the deciding factor in me keeping the CZ, like Lesuave, MFD, focus speed and better accuracy were what I needed to snap the kids.
Excellent tip on that lens hood by the way, I toyed with a 3D printer to make a 28-70G hood at one point. |
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Blame ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 14 October 2010 Country: United Kingdom Location: London UK Status: Offline Posts: 2626 |
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I do think that minolta is showing its age here and I am not convinced the problem is soluble with a better black coating to the internal sides. I think modern lens coatings are the explanation. The old coatings alter the color tone at the expense of contrast. Is it really not possible to get the color tone you like with filters, camera customized colors or PP? The Zeiss clearly has inferior bokeh but that is the price always paid for wide open sharpness. All told I think the Zeiss a more usable lens. It justifies its price tag as a professional fast lens for indoor functions. Stoped down there are more economical options. |
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