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    Posted: 26 December 2009 at 14:22
You've probably noticed that we've swapped Critics Corner with Assignments. That's not the only change as "behind the scenes" we've also discussed an overhaul of the assignments in general. We'll wipe the slate clean (i.e. lock all old assignment threads) and start anew.

Current thinking is 3 levels of assignments as follows:

Basic Assignments:
- Rule of Thirds and Golden Mean
- Leading lines
- Foreground Interest
- Softness
- Perspective

Intermediate Assignments:
- High Key
- Low Key
- Shape/outline Silhouette
- Primary Colours
- Symmetry
- Pattern
- Texture

Advanced Assignments:
- Getting closer
- Macro w/o macro
- Decisive moment
- Use of fill-in flash
- Use of flash with rear curtain sync
- Use of multiple flashes
- Self set goal/assignment

Rules and guidelines are still under discussion and the above list is not final, so for any suggestions you have pls. post below.

Edited by pegelli - 26 December 2009 at 14:23
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eddyizm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2009 at 19:51
how about a portrait section
1. natural light portrait
2. studio/flash portrait

it seems a lot of us buy cameras to shoot photos of our loved ones and friends but often end up with lackluster shots that can be attributed to poor composition.

just a thought. ;-)
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I agree with Eddy. Even the high/low key assignments can be moved under the portrait section.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote p_man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2009 at 03:49
I like this new layout, but is fill flash really an advanced topic? I think it's often necessary to use that technique in order to achieve some of the level 1 & 2 things like foreground interest. I notice that there are a few lighting topics in the advanced assignments. Maybe lighting issues could be a seperate course that is run concurrently with the regular photo assignments.

Also, maybe there should be an assignment that about breaking the rules. I'm thinking it would be intermediate and be things like coming up with a successful photo with a centrally placed subject.

One more thing - shouldn't symmetry be "balance?" I don't know if that's the real intent of that, but I'm guessing that you don't mean formal symmetry.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote KoprivaMedia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2009 at 08:36
I like this more thorough set of assignments. I've never been involved with those threads before, but I'm excited to do them in the future.

Good work admins! Looking forward to the challenge
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 09:22
Placing the high/low key in a portrait section would limit the high/low key assignment. If I look throe the current high key assignment, most people doe not choice a portrait.
If a portrait section is made, than assignments about wide angle effects and night photo graphics would also be a idea.

I agree to p_man that Use of fill-in flash is more a Basic Assignments.

Softness would better fit Intermediate Assignments I think, Its more a affect on the photo as a composition thing.

Decisive moment, needs to get a better definition. As for as I read it now its more about luck than skills.

And I like the assignments in the main topic list but I do miss the Critics Corner there.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 12:27
Thanks for all the input, how about this list as a second pass:

Basic Assignments:
- Rule of Thirds and Golden Mean
- Leading lines
- Foreground Interest
- Perspective
- Shape/outline Silhouette
- Use of fill-in flash

Intermediate Assignments:
- High Key
- Low Key
- Softness
- Primary Colours
- Symmetry
- Pattern
- Texture

Portrait Assignments
- Natural light
- Studio with multiple lights/reflectors
- Environmental portrait

Advanced Assignments:
- Getting closer
- Macro w/o macro
- Decisive moment
- Use of flash with rear curtain sync
- Breaking the rules
- Self set goal/assignment


Two other comments:
1) We specifically moved Critics Corner one level "deeper" as it also attracted a lot of newbee posts with lots of posts/pictures that didn't meet the CC guidelines because they didn't read the rules. So putting this "newbee magnet" a little further away might help this problem.

2) I left low key/hi key out of the portrait section, as the interpretation can be much broader. No problem to submit portraits for these, but no need for this to be the only subjects
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Post Options Post Options   Quote p_man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 13:45
Yes, I like this a lot, especially how the subjects that have additional gear requirements go later. Please set this up sooner rather than later. I'd like to get started.

Seriously, I don't think we'll know how well this works until a few people have gone through the new course.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mortenva Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 14:27
I like this outline of the assignments too. These will be added to my 2010-to-do list.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 16:35
OK, working it further here's some of the rules and guidelines in summary style. Any comments on those (or let me know in case anything is unclear)

Outline rules/guidelines for the "new" assignments are:
- clean slate, all old assignments will be locked
- no mining, shots must be specifically taken for the assignment (we trust you )
- one dimension crop and minor straightening allowed
- max 2 pics per post/try
- you can do the assignments in any order, and repeated as many times as anyone wants
- At least one moderators or admin will comment on every post and determine fail/pass. Might include general C&C as well.
- all members of Dyxum can also leave comments on the shots posted
- id of members that passed will be kept in a "pass post"
- specifically good pictures or good examples of assignment passes will be kept in a new "assignment gallery"
- instructions for specific assignments will generally stay as is (and we'll have to write new ones for new assignments).
- shots posted for the assignments are eligible for selection in the weekly exhibitions
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Post Options Post Options   Quote p_man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 17:15
A few questions:
- Will those that have previously passed be added to the "pass post"
- What does "one dimension crop" mean?
- Will the instructions for assignments be copied into their new threads?

I think that's it for now.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 17:28
Originally posted by p_man p_man wrote:

A few questions:
- Will those that have previously passed be added to the "pass post"
- What does "one dimension crop" mean?
- Will the instructions for assignments be copied into their new threads?

I think that's it for now.


In order:
- We weren't planning that, it's a totally new game where only some assignments are the same as before.
- You are allowed to crop either height or width, but not both, this is to allow different aspect ratio's than 2:3 but still don't allow sloppy framing being corrected by cropping in both directions on the computer.
- Yes they will be copied over (with some updates as needed).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote easypete Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 20:21
I like the structure much better than before. I took a couple shots with the assignments in mind, but never posted.

I would also like to see some more PP assignments. High Key / Low Key can be done PP, but the rest seem more composition and subject matter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote defi90 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2009 at 21:39
Hi,
I started to look at the assignments but no reasonable results:(
As we are working more in digital I wouldn't mind seeing some post processing assignments before and after results. (I can imagine it is hard to come up with something reasonable task as this is a really broad field)
An other idea would be to have top 3 assignments after 3 or 6 month. Just too make it interesting.
And having a small description or a couple of examples for new bees about what is meant by the task.
I hope I was help full...
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