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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2020 at 13:35
With the Plustek 7600i you can get 10800x7200 scans if your arithmetic is right, but there is just 3250 dpi worth of information in there. It is not about the pixels, it is about the resolution.

Here is a comparison between drumscanning, flatbed and DLSR film digitizing: Nick Carver on YouTube. He considers the drumscan to be the best (sharpest) option, but keeps his flatbed. The 7600i is probably somewehere between the flatbed and the drumscan.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 September 2020 at 20:57
Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

I'll be interested to see how photos taken with a 24MP camera compare with 3600dpi scans ... if my arithmetic is right you end up with 5400x3600 px scans compared to close to 6000x4000 with 1:1 macro on an A7 III.


Not exactly what you ask for, not the same place, color vs b/w, FF vs APSC :)
But maybe it will give you some idea how good this film is.


Minolta a-7, Sony 85/1.4 F4.5 1/160s


Sony NEX 7, Sony E 55-210 84mm, F8.0 1/640s ISO100




Edited by mariuszlo - 20 September 2020 at 21:00
A99ii,BC,BBC,28-70,28-135,16,20,24,50,100,135,200/2.8,28,35,100/2.0,35-105,24-105,28-105RS,24-85RS,100-300 Sony 24/2.0 50/1.4,85/1.4,85/2.8,70-300G,70-400G2 S 105M,24-105A,12-24 HSM,70-200/2.8 HSM OS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 01:17
My next roll.
Fuji ColorPlus 200 with Minolta Maxxum 70. Skanner - Plustek 7600i.

#2.1 Tribute in Light

Maxxum 70, Sony 50/1.4

#2.2 Tribute in Light

Maxxum 70, Minolta 16/2.8

#2.3 Waterfront. Jersey City

Maxxum 70, Minolta 24-105/3.5-4.5

#2.4 Almost like Florida.


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Edited by mariuszlo - 21 September 2020 at 21:01
A99ii,BC,BBC,28-70,28-135,16,20,24,50,100,135,200/2.8,28,35,100/2.0,35-105,24-105,28-105RS,24-85RS,100-300 Sony 24/2.0 50/1.4,85/1.4,85/2.8,70-300G,70-400G2 S 105M,24-105A,12-24 HSM,70-200/2.8 HSM OS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 01:38
#2.5 Waterfront

Maxxum 70, Minolta 24-105/3.5-4.5

#2.6 On the beach

Maxxum 70, Minolta 24-105/3.5-4.5

#2.7 Hoboken and Hudson Yards

Maxxum 70, Minolta 24-105/3.5-4.5

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#2.8 Fountain

Maxxum 70, Minolta 24-105/3.5-4.5


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A99ii,BC,BBC,28-70,28-135,16,20,24,50,100,135,200/2.8,28,35,100/2.0,35-105,24-105,28-105RS,24-85RS,100-300 Sony 24/2.0 50/1.4,85/1.4,85/2.8,70-300G,70-400G2 S 105M,24-105A,12-24 HSM,70-200/2.8 HSM OS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 01:42
#2.9 Bumblebee on a rose.

Maxxum 70, Sigma 105/2.8 HSM OS

#2.10 Restaurant garden.

Maxxum 70, Sigma 70-200/2.8 HSM OS

#2.11 Elder grandson


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#2.12 And younger one.

Maxxum 70, Sigma 70-200/2.8 HSM OS




Edited by mariuszlo - 21 September 2020 at 21:07
A99ii,BC,BBC,28-70,28-135,16,20,24,50,100,135,200/2.8,28,35,100/2.0,35-105,24-105,28-105RS,24-85RS,100-300 Sony 24/2.0 50/1.4,85/1.4,85/2.8,70-300G,70-400G2 S 105M,24-105A,12-24 HSM,70-200/2.8 HSM OS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 10:10
Do you use Silverfast for scanning? Did you choose the right film in Negafix? These is a strong colourcast in these pictures.

Of the three pictures of the Hoboken and Hudson Yards, I like this last colour film one the best. Even if the colours could be a little better!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bob J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 11:06
Love the Manhattan shots. There does seem to be a slight pinkness in some of the negatives - would be interesting to know more about your process - did you do any colour correction in post?

My third roll is just out of the 'soup' this is the experimental 35mm-film-in-a-120-camera roll - looks like I may have got as many as 21 shots from the roll, but early shots look to be overlapping a bit so I might have to decide how to treat those (ie crop or stick to 55x35 and include the overlaps).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 11:34
Thanks for your comments on the color.
I use Vuescan for scanning, set the negative type and sometimes adjust the brightness. I scan to jpg. Then I only do the necessary geometric adjustments.

But in fact, with this film I made a mistake and set up a Kodak ColorPlus 5Gen 200 Color Negative.
This could be the reason for this discoloration. I'm going to try to fix this error this afternoon.
The same technique with the same film a year ago gave such results. Is it better?


Sorry, I made a mistake again;)
This image above was completely processed by lab (scanning included). This is my 'work' below.



Edited by mariuszlo - 21 September 2020 at 11:39
A99ii,BC,BBC,28-70,28-135,16,20,24,50,100,135,200/2.8,28,35,100/2.0,35-105,24-105,28-105RS,24-85RS,100-300 Sony 24/2.0 50/1.4,85/1.4,85/2.8,70-300G,70-400G2 S 105M,24-105A,12-24 HSM,70-200/2.8 HSM OS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bob J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 11:45
The second one does look a little more 'daylight'.

If the lab did the scanning it may be that they set the WB off one shot and used it for all of them.

In a way the colours look more 'film' - I often remember getting shots back from the processor that seemed a little 'other' on the colours
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 15:40
Great colour film shots Marius, on my screen they also have a slight magenta/pink-ish cast but it's not disturbing. I love the look of the elder grandson and 2.1 and 2.2 came out very nice.

My porta 160 from the Minolta 505 si super is in the shop now, I hope I have time to go and pick it up on saturday. As an experiment I did develop + scan, the guy at the counter couldn't give me any specs/resolution for the scans, he only told me the files will be burned on a CD. I guess photo shops don't deal with this kind of stuff a lot anymore   

I've also completed a roll of FP4 in the OM4T, the last ~10 photo's are for the challenge, so I hope to get 3 or 4 keepers out of that as well. But that will be developed/scanned here at home, hopefully also ready for posting in or shortly after next weekend.

Next step is completing another roll of FP4 in my M2, about 16 frames left for the challenge.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bob J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 20:41
My third film. This one shot with a AGIFlex from a firm called AGI based in Croydon, South London. AGI still exist but they shut down their AGILux camera division in the 1950s. The AGIFlex is a camera that normally takes square shots on 120 film, but in this case it was loaded with 35mm film.

Because I had no way of judging how much the film should be wound on between exposures, there was some overlap. I eventually decided that I would crop off the double exposed bits, but the second three shots will show the 55mm width of the full frame.

Film was Kentmere Pan 400 processed in R09. Digitised with an A7ii plus Minolta 50 macro illuminated by a tablet. I got 21 shots on the roll of 36, so I'm posting 7... Here are the first 4:

Bob3.1 Frame 1 - jetty just upriver from the Thames barrier


Bob3.2 Frame 3 - The Royal Iris as pictured in my first set.


Bob3.3 Frame 7 - Agregate loading pier at Charlton


Bob3.4 Frame 9 - Mrs J in the woods
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bob J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 20:52
For these last 3 - the full 12 perforations!

Bob3.5 Frame 12 - Humped bridge carrying Thames footpath between Erith and Thamesmead.


Bob3.6 Frame 14 - Sunflower from the Thamesmead Sunflower Meadow


Bob3.7 Frame 19 - Pony
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 21:09
BobJ: An extremely successful vintage look!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mariuszlo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 September 2020 at 21:11
I corrected the colors in my photos (I scanned again).
Perhaps more important than the Kodak misadjustment was the inadvertent reduction in green (0.7) brightness.
It's probably better now. For comparison, I left some previous photos.
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