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Kodak Vericolor - had to google that one, but it turns out to be the predecessor of Kodak Portra. Nice film, I am using it in my Bronica SQ as we speak. And on page 5 of this thread Pieter shows some nice examples of Portra 160.

Makes sense Bob, thanks for the explanation
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Kodak Vericolor - had to google that one, but it turns out to be the predecessor of Kodak Portra. Nice film, I am using it in my Bronica SQ as we speak. And on page 5 of this thread Pieter shows some nice examples of Portra 160.

Makes sense Bob, thanks for the explanation


At the time, Vericolor was alleged to be slightly better than the equivalent Kodacolor. It had a very short shelf life as it was used by professionals who, unlike amateurs and family snappers, wouldn't be leaving films in their camera unprocessed for extended periods. I used to keep it in a sealed plastic bag in my fridge, taking it out 24 hours before use to avoid condensation issues. It had an ASA (ISO) rating of 100.

I've found the information useful, thanks guys, and enjoyed my trip down memory lane. Now it's time to check out my OM-1 and buy a roll of film! I've discovered that thhe Ilford, now Harmon? factory is only a few miles from me!

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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

It is probably just the sky, as with this second batch I do not really see any grain.

Why is there a cross among those standard Common Wealth wargraves? It that the "1 French war burial"
Wikipedia mentions?


Yes, a blue sky is one of the areas often showing grain since it's a smooth area placquered with lots of silver and small holes inbetween. In most other areas grain is usually not as prevalent and can even add to the perception of sharpness and detail. If I would print large I think there are some PP tricks you can play to reduce it but for posting in the film challenge I think leaving the grain in place adds to the "character" of the shots.

Regarding the cross among the standard commonwealth wargrave headstones I have to admit that even though I put it in the frame on purpose (and even put the focal plane there) I forgot to look what caused it to be different. I plan to go back there so will try to find out then.


My last 4 from this FP4+ roll through the OM4T

9: Statue among the trees



10: Same statue close-up



11: Circular bicycle ramp of a foot/cycle bridge over the highway around Antwerp



12: "Stairs" going up the Wolvenberg, a small park at the Antwerp city limit


9+10: OM Zuiko 135/2.8, 11+12: OM Zuiko 21/3.5

That's it for this roll, the next installment will either be a roll of HP5+ in my M2 or a roll of Porta 160 in my Dynax 7. I guess it will be the HP5+ since I can develop that at home and all shops where I can bring the Porta to get developed are closed due to the COVID lockdown
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2020 at 17:29
I think I have a problem with my scanning....

I tried the test version of Vuescan and it does not have any Fuji Superia colour profiles. So, I have to scan like it is a positive, use the white balance tool in RAW Therapee and then invert in PSP (as the white balance tool in PSP does not work and RT only does inversion with camera RAW's).

Also, it seems my Plustek 7200i is at the end of its life as the scans were extremely flat and showed weird artefacts - maybe due to dust and not having used it for so long?

Then I tried Silverfast and it did not recognise my Canon 9000f. Which is weird as it worked this summer. Maybe I should get into contact with the people of Silverfast to find out what is wrong.

So, tried to find the latest Canon scan software compatible with the 9000f and could not find any. But I had an old version on my computer, so I can use that still. So, I scanned a picture I took with the Minolta Dynax 7 and the Sony 70-400G on Fuji Superia 1600:

Minolta Dynax 7 | Sony 70-400G | Fuji Superia 1600

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It is a lovely batch Pieter - looking forward to the Portia.
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Just had my first go at 'stand development'. HP5 for 35 minutes in 1/25 strength R09 after 10 seconds of initial agitation. From what I read it is supposed to give very even tones and fine grain. Looks Ok from the negatives as they are hung up to dry, but I do find it strange to not fidget with a developing film for over 30 minutes.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 November 2020 at 15:48
Looking forward to the results of that method Bob, I would be afraid of veiling or uneven development but it might be a case that I suffer most from the suffering I fear. What ISO do you expose HP5 when you develop that way, the base 400 or something different?
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I just exposed it as 400. No particular reason for it to be uneven - most stand developments seem to use a 1-50 dilution, but I couldn't contemplate leaving the tank alone for over an hour...

I guess brownian motion is going to make sure some new developer gets to the film, but it did feel odd. Should be able to make a better judgement once I scan the film. If it looks OK, I might bite the bullet and try 1-50 dilution next time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 November 2020 at 11:15
Found a nice article about stand development and why Rodinal is an excellent developer for this technique.
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This set from the Dynax 7 (again) Ilford HP5 Plus stand developed in R09 (Rodinal) at 1:25. These are all from the Royal Arsenal and Woolwich riverfronts using the Minolta AF20.

The stand development seemed to go well, but the resulting negatives were dense enough to show lines of scanner noise, so these versions are photographs of the negatives taken with the a99. I decided I would try a more dilute development solution (1:50) next time.

I worked at the Arsenal for 7 years and was part of the third generation of my family that had worked there. Because it was a secure site, no cameras were allowed - so it is quite a treat to be able to take photographs in there these days. The Ministry of Defence moved out in the early 90s and a big clean-up operation was carried out to rid the site of all the heavy metals that had built up over 400-odd years of weapons manufacture. They removed the top metre of topsoil from the entire site, cleaned and replaced it. For many years it was closed but was often used as a period backdrop for films and television - many scenes from the sitcom 'Goodnight Sweetheart' were filmed here.

Bobj 11.01 – frame 1 - Silt


Bobj 11.02 – frame 4 - ordnance factory gates


The Ordnance factory at the Arsenal closed in 1968 and this stone ediface is all that remains of quite a large building - the Iron gates went to RoF Chorley, but were returned to the Arsenal after Chorley closed.

Bobj 11.03 – frame 5 - Building 20 (perspective corrected in Viewpoint)

I used to work in Building 20 we had a state of the art Vaxcluster in the rear of the building. It has now been converted into posh flats. Building 20 was the first purpouse-built chemical factory in the world (I’m told) – the far end had a double height room with a balcony around it, so that managers could supervise without getting too much in the way of fumes. At this end The Duke of Wellington used to have his office upstairs when he was Master General of The Ordnance. There used to be stories that his ghost wandered the building at night, but we never saw him when we were on late shift…

Bobj 11.04 frame 7 - Hollow men

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Bobj 11.05 – frame 8 - Hollow men in front of the guardhouses

The riverside guardhouses at the Arsenal are listed buildings – meaning that they have to be preserved by UK law. They are not protected out of any architectural merit, but because Louis - the Prince Imperial laid in state in the left one when his body was brought back to England for burial at Orpington after he had been killed in Africa by Zulu warriors. Queen Victoria came down to Woolwich to accompany Louis to his last resting place.

Bobj 11.06 - frame 12 - Posh flats overlooking the river


Bobj 11.07 – frame 14 - Posh flats plaza


Bobj 11.08 – frame 17 - 9 pointers, only two directions

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Bobj 11.09 – frame 18 - foot tunnel building


Bobj 11.10 – frame 22 - River steps


Bobj 11.11 – frame 27 - Steps


Bobj 11.12 – frame 29 - Pointless sign

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