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    Posted: 27 December 2020 at 13:14
Wishing you all another bokehlicious Meyer Year in 2021


A7ii + Meyer Görlitz Trioplan 100/2.8 @ 2.8

For completeness, here is the list of all the previous 'Meyer' threads:


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Leading lines with Meyer Lydith copy: Pentacon 3.5/30mm (m42) on A7R2




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One of the lenses for Day Prime this week,the Trioplan 3.5/45mm (from Beirette Junior II) seen through the Kinon Superior F=5cm (on A7R2)




And some new DIY projects arrived yesterday. Pics taken with the same combo

Smena SL with T43 f4/40mm



Voigtländer Vito CL with Voigtländer Color Lanthar 2.8/50mm


Let's see if I can take these lenses of too

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Hello Meyerlovers,
I am myself new to these wonderful lenses, I own the new Trimagon 95 (EF mount) and very recently the Primoplan 58 (M42 mount).

Questions for you: how exactly is Primoplan different from Primotar?

and second: if you had to choose two of the "new designs" from current Meyer Optik, which ones would you choose and why?
https://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.com/en/lenses/

Many thanks!
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Welcome to Dyxum Sebastián. I moved your post to this years' Meyer thread, so it has more chance of being spotted vs. in last years' thread where you put it.

I can't answer you first question but I'm sure one of the real specialists will chime in.

Regarding your second question my answer would be probably none, I think I prefer the original and sometimes cheaper versions. But if I had to pick probably one of the primotars, since I already have original versions of most of the other ones they are now remaking, only not the Lydith 30 mm, but since I have a Pentacon (a later version of the Orestegon) 29/2.8 my interest for that one is also pretty low.

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Arghhh, I've been missing all this and didn't get my end of year images posted. Hoping to do better this year but...   we'll see.
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Originally posted by nosoyelautor nosoyelautor wrote:

Hello Meyerlovers,
I am myself new to these wonderful lenses, I own the new Trimagon 95 (EF mount) and very recently the Primoplan 58 (M42 mount).

Questions for you: how exactly is Primoplan different from Primotar?

and second: if you had to choose two of the "new designs" from current Meyer Optik, which ones would you choose and why?
https://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.com/en/lenses/

Many thanks!


If I had to choose, I wouldn't. My opinion only, of course. I like the real Meyer lenses from the past and they aren't as crazy expensive.

Primoplan (the original) is a wonderful lens in my opinion and other than optical design, it is much faster than any of the Primotars, focuses closer, and more shallow depth of field (goes with the speed). I do also like the 3.5/135 and 3.5/180 Primotars. The 180mm benefits from a helicoid adapter to get closer focusing.

I don't know what a Trimogon is but if that's a new lens, it isn't really a Meyer. Among the 17 or so different Meyers that I have, the ones I use most are the Primoplan, 135mm P-tar, 135mm Orestor, 50mm Oreston, 50mm Kinon, and 50mm Trioplan. I would include the 100mm Trioplan in that list if I had one.
   
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Originally posted by woodrim woodrim wrote:

Arghhh, I've been missing all this and didn't get my end of year images posted. Hoping to do better this year but...   we'll see.
The 2020 thread is still open for photos from last year
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Originally posted by woodrim woodrim wrote:

Originally posted by nosoyelautor nosoyelautor wrote:

Hello Meyerlovers,
I am myself new to these wonderful lenses, I own the new Trimagon 95 (EF mount) and very recently the Primoplan 58 (M42 mount).

Questions for you: how exactly is Primoplan different from Primotar?

and second: if you had to choose two of the "new designs" from current Meyer Optik, which ones would you choose and why?
https://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.com/en/lenses/

Many thanks!


If I had to choose, I wouldn't. My opinion only, of course. I like the real Meyer lenses from the past and they aren't as crazy expensive.

Primoplan (the original) is a wonderful lens in my opinion and other than optical design, it is much faster than any of the Primotars, focuses closer, and more shallow depth of field (goes with the speed). I do also like the 3.5/135 and 3.5/180 Primotars. The 180mm benefits from a helicoid adapter to get closer focusing.

I don't know what a Trimogon is but if that's a new lens, it isn't really a Meyer. Among the 17 or so different Meyers that I have, the ones I use most are the Primoplan, 135mm P-tar, 135mm Orestor, 50mm Oreston, 50mm Kinon, and 50mm Trioplan. I would include the 100mm Trioplan in that list if I had one.
   


I could almost have written this myself. I like the old Meyers and have no experience with the (much more expensive|)new ones.
A choice between Primotar and Primoplan (50mm?) would be in favour of the Primoplan in my case. Difficult to describe though, but teh Primoplan is one of my favourites. It can bu very smooth, but "funky" too. The short MFD is a real asset.
Please note that I only can compare to the P'tar 3.5/50mm. There is a f2.8 version too, but that's not (yet?) in my collection.
Comparing it to 135 or 180mm seems less usefull to me, but the P'tar 135mm is a fine lens too, with bubble bokeh potential.

As Pegelli said. have a look at our sample threads, or Meyer threads form previous years, with lots of examples.
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Originally posted by nosoyelautor nosoyelautor wrote:

Hello Meyerlovers,
I am myself new to these wonderful lenses, I own the new Trimagon 95 (EF mount) and very recently the Primoplan 58 (M42 mount).

Questions for you: how exactly is Primoplan different from Primotar?

and second: if you had to choose two of the "new designs" from current Meyer Optik, which ones would you choose and why?
https://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.com/en/lenses/

Many thanks!


All the reincarnations of the original Meyers are in the 900 euro price range. For that money you can, with some patience and searching, buy an entire set of originals, with the exception of the 75 mm primoplan which is rare and expensive. I'm not sure what the reincarnations can bring what the old ones cannot. Yes they will be clean, no dust inside, perfect mechanics, better lens coating. But will that matter?


The Primoplan 58/1.9 is a real gem, lots of character wide open. The 50/3.5 Primotar doesn't compare. It is a good lens, but at f/3.5 it is slow. There is a later (and more expensive) f/2.8 Primotar, but it still does not come near the Primoplan.

The 135/3.5 Primotar on the other hand is a great lens. It is called the poor man's Trioplan because it bubbles like the Trioplan 100/2.8, which is a Meyer legend.

   
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40.1: Floodplain

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM2
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Helioplan 1:4.5/40 V (Exakta)
ApertureL f/8
Exposure Time: 0.003 sec (1/400)
ISO: 100

40.2: Floodplain

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM2
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Helioplan 1:4.5/40 V (Exakta)
ApertureL f/8
Exposure Time: 0.002 sec (1/640)
ISO: 100

40.3: Hole in the wall

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM2
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Helioplan 1:4.5/40 V (Exakta)
ApertureL f/8
Exposure Time: 0.013 sec (1/80)
ISO: 100
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45.1: Bench

Camera Model: ILCE-7
Lens: Meyer Optik S Trioplan 1:3.5/45 V from Pentina rangefinder
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.001 sec (1/1000)
ISO: 100
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The Robot started as a 24x24mm camera with M26x1 lens mount in the mid 1930s. It remained in production until the 1950s at which time 24x36mm and half frame was an option. Meyer was generous when they designed the Primotar for the Robot system because it easily covers the full frame sensor, albeit with vignette. This one was born in 1936, is uncoated and in remarkable good health, particularly considering it is 85 years old and been through a world war.

New bridge

Camera Model: ILCE-7
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Robot Primotar 1:3.5 F=3cm (M26, 1936)
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.017 sec (1/60)
ISO: 160

Hibiscus Pods

Camera Model: ILCE-7
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Robot Primotar 1:3.5 F=3cm (M26, 1936)
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.017 sec (1/60)
ISO: 1000

The eyes of a swing

Camera Model: ILCE-7
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Robot Primotar 1:3.5 F=3cm (M26, 1936)
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.017 sec (1/60)
ISO: 640

Swingtime

Camera Model: ILCE-7
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Robot Primotar 1:3.5 F=3cm (M26, 1936)
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.017 sec (1/60)
ISO: 1000

Swing

Camera Model: ILCE-7
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Robot Primotar 1:3.5 F=3cm (M26, 1936)
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.017 sec (1/60)
ISO: 320

Spring

Camera Model: ILCE-7
Lens: Meyer Görlitz Robot Primotar 1:3.5 F=3cm (M26, 1936)
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.017 sec (1/60)
ISO: 100


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Great results for a lens form 1936. Didn't know the robot was invented already then.


A late one for Day 50


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