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2021, the fourth year with Meyer Görlitz

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You can clearly see where the Oreston comes from Fred.

I recently came across an article explaining why the Domiron was only produced for a short time (1960).

Meyer's 2/50 Domiron coexisted with Carl Zeiss Jena's 2/50 Pancolar and both lenses were 1-2-2-1 Biotar design. Mind you, they are not identical, the Pancolars have (surprise surprise) less character. The lenses contained lens elements from what was at the time exotic, high refractive index glass. As Meyer and CZJ were fishing in the same pond, CZJ made it impossible for Meyer to source the exotic glass, which meant the end of the Domiron. In the mid sixties times had changed, CZJ lifted the ban and Meyer came up with the 1.8/50 Oreston and CZJ upgraded the Pancolar to 1.8/50.

The story continues: In 1971 CZJ and Meyer no longer existed in name and had been assimilated into Pentacon. The Oreston and Pancolar were replaced by the Pentacon Auto 1.8/50. Still of 1-2-2-1 Biotar design but cheaper to produce as the rear pair was now produced with flat interface in stead of a curved interface. Interesting to add some shots with this lens (although strictly speaking it is not a Meyer). I only have the later MC version, I assume it is identical except lens coatings.

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Continuing with Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta) on A7iii. All images taken on the Posbank near Rheden in The Netherlands. I went there to take pictures of heather in bloom during sunset but in absence of clouds the sunset was a disappointment.


1: Heather under the sun


2: The bokeh of heather


3: Heather under the sun


4: Mess with the bull


5: Fence in low light


And one last one where I actually used the diaphragm push button.....

6: A star is born

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Finally got a Domiplan 50mm f2.8. Good for only 1 thing, but fun.

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Congratulations Dena. Probably the most modest Meyer lens but I feel it is underappreciated. Having said that, I have hardly used mine. So you're right, it is a one trick bubble bokeh pony.

Lovely image, by the way.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dena Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 September 2021 at 19:17
Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

Congratulations Dena. Probably the most modest Meyer lens but I feel it is underappreciated. Having said that, I have hardly used mine. So you're right, it is a one trick bubble bokeh pony.

Lovely image, by the way.


Thanks.. thought I'd try it out on the cheap first. Some of the Meyers are pricey. I assume some are sharp or have variable apertures?
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Perfect first use of the Domiplan Dena! For me it's probably the least used Meyer, but looking at your picture I think I should give it a fair chance to shine.
 



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Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

Perfect first use of the Domiplan Dena! For me it's probably the least used Meyer, but looking at your picture I think I should give it a fair chance to shine.


Thanks, I will!
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Originally posted by Dena Dena wrote:

Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

Congratulations Dena. Probably the most modest Meyer lens but I feel it is underappreciated. Having said that, I have hardly used mine. So you're right, it is a one trick bubble bokeh pony.

Lovely image, by the way.


Thanks.. thought I'd try it out on the cheap first. Some of the Meyers are pricey. I assume some are sharp or have variable apertures?


Lucky to get a good one on first(?) try. So many interesting Meyer's to try. If you want sharp, 100mm and 135mm Orestors are very sharp.
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Originally posted by Dena Dena wrote:


Thanks.. thought I'd try it out on the cheap first. Some of the Meyers are pricey. I assume some are sharp or have variable apertures?



For absolute sharpness you need modern lenses, but most Meyers are quite adequate. Yes, the Domiplan is a mass produced budget lens of very simple design (only 3 elements) and you cannot expect too much.

Apertures: The older lenses tend to have manual apertures. Later ones (M42 mount) are automatic and have a pin in the rear that needs to be pressed for the aperture to move, which cannot be done when the lens is on a lens adapter. To resolve this, you need to be brave because it involves opening the lens and doctoring the mechanism or gluing the pin from the outside while you hold it down. In between the manual lenses and the automatic lenses is a generation where there is an aperture button on the side of the lens that you can push before you press the shutter. Some very late M42 lenses even have a manual/auto selector.
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THX for the -september 6- info, Paul! very interesting, definitely welcome!
lovely heather!

and CONGRATS, Dena! nice bubbles! pretty sure you won't regret 'boarding' the Meyer ship. except for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ downside perhaps? it always starts with 'just' 1 Meyer... a classic trap! afaik, we all seem to be suffering from G.A.S., so Welcome to the Club!

(hi (#waves-at) Mike! nice to see you surface!). Orestor (only familiar with) 135mm is quite sharp indeed, but it's no bubble monster, i.e. not a natural.
but your Domiplan doesn't perform too bad either?
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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:


(hi (#waves-at) Mike! nice to see you surface!). Orestor (only familiar with) 135mm is quite sharp indeed, but it's no bubble monster, i.e. not a natural.
but your Domiplan doesn't perform too bad either?


Hello Ine. I haven't done very well contributing to this thread. While I still treasure my Meyers, I've amassed so many other fine lenses that I find I may go months without using a Meyer. That's something I never would have thought some years back.

I do have a good Domiplan but just one out of three purchased. I have used it but find the Trioplan 2.8/50 superior in all ways, leaving me little reason to use the Domiplan.

I have finally filled a large hole in my Meyer line with recent purchase of a Trioplan N 2.8/100. I just couldn't bring myself to pay for the older, silver version. I like the lens and am still learning to use it for advantage. Here's one from the weekend... not exactly a typical Trioplan type shot.

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Maybe not a typical Trioplan shot but I like it!
Nice capture
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Beautiful shot Mike! The Trioplan 100 has a lovely softness and I think it shows its talent for portraits here. Certainly not a one trick pony this lens.

The N version is much more sturdy (the forced aluminium body of the silver Trioplans is flimsy, the lens weighs nothing). And having 'only' 6 aperture blades in stead of 15 hardly matters as most of the time this lens is used wide open. The N version is more rare, but for whatever reason it is cheaper than the silver lenses. Perhaps because they are Exakta mount? I like the looks of it, bit of a zebra design going on. Would get me one if I didn't have a silver one.
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Originally posted by woodrim woodrim wrote:



Lucky to get a good one on first(?) try. So many interesting Meyer's to try. If you want sharp, 100mm and 135mm Orestors are very sharp.


A good one? Hmm. it's not sharp, but other than that seems ok. Clean glass and the blades are oil free.
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