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So intrigued by these vintage lenses. I was looking into buying one, now been gifted 2. First the Mamiya 55 f1.4, which I find is sharp with wonderful bokeh, and now Lou just gave me a Soligor 105mm f2.8. The images he made had super dreamy bokeh. Both M42 mount. So now I have 2 to play with. He is a collector of classic cameras and equipment of all kinds and a great photographer.
 



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Pieter, Fred. I love those Trioplan images!

Without announcement my latest acquisition was delivered through German and Dutch postal service. It was left before my front door, must have been on Saturday, and I found it by sheer luck on Sunday. The package was drenched and all mushy and I feared the worst. Fortunately this rare lens was encased in masses of bubble wrap and a sealed plastic bag, otherwise it had been suitable for the wrecking yard. I think the Domiron makes its debut on Dyxum. About time.

It was expensive at the time (that situation has not improved over the years), 6 elements in 4 groups, double gauss style, much like the Biotars but with a Meyer twist, only available in Exakta mount. Not produced in large numbers and replaced by the cheaper and faster Oreston 1.8/50. They are not often for sale and when found generally appear to have been rescued form a barn or a cellar, corroded, musty and dented. My copy is nothing like that:

1: Domiron

Camera Model: SLT-A99V
Lens: Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.077 sec (1/13)
ISO: 100

Even though my back is as good as new (about time, it took 4 months spent between hope and despair) the easiest way to test lenses is to put them in front of my coneflowers.

2: Coneflower and bumblebee

Camera Model: ILCE-7M3
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 0.002 sec (1/500)
ISO: 100

3: Coneflower and bumblebee

Camera Model: ILCE-7M3
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 0.01 sec (1/100)
ISO: 100

4: Echinacea

Camera Model: ILCE-7M3
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 0.004 sec (1/250)
ISO: 100

I like what I see. I'll have to make comparative shots with the Oreston to see if it is worth the extra money. Well, for a collector it always is.....


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Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

Pieter, Fred. I love those Trioplan images!

+ 1!

congrats, Paul! and THX for the news about your back! fingers crossed it will keep behaving like that!
can't believe where they left the new gadget... even though this seems to be a rather common way of delivery 'outside the province'?
LOVE the results and your echinacea(e), beautiful!
looking FW to a comparison! (Oreston still being my most used Meyer. must be the min. distance, hope you'll compare those too. not familiar with the new star -of course- ...yet? but always eager to learn something new? ;)).
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The MFD of the Domiron, that was advertised as standard and macro lens, is just 34 cm, I think the same as the Oreston. Very practical, particularly when you are on A-mount and M42 focussing helicoids cannot be used. Naturally this lens is only available in Exakta and that is a problem for A-mount.

Yes Ine, that back of mine! I have been abusing it in the gym and on my race bicycle for some weeks now and it is holding together. Fingers crossed (although everybody knows that doesn't help)!    
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In summary: Great find, great work Paul!
Very nice bokeh from this lens.

Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

The MFD of the Domiron, that was advertised as standard and macro lens, is just 34 cm, I think the same as the Oreston. Very practical, particularly when you are on A-mount and M42 focussing helicoids cannot be used. Naturally this lens is only available in Exakta and that is a problem for A-mount.


I use helicoids as well as Exacta on my A99(ii). The helicoids are in M42, and mounted via a slim M42 o A-mount adapter.
My Telefogar 180 is Exacta, but I have managed to mount that on my A99 too, and it even focusses to infinity (without grinding the mount) although it is mosttly used for shorter distances anyhow.


Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:


Yes Ine, that back of mine! I have been abusing it in the gym and on my race bicycle for some weeks now and it is holding together. Fingers crossed (although everybody knows that doesn't help)!

That's good to hear Paul! Eespecially after the initial disappointment after the surgery.
   
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I use helicoids as well as Exacta on my A99(ii). The helicoids are in M42, and mounted via a slim M42 o A-mount adapter.
My Telefogar 180 is Exacta, but I have managed to mount that on my A99 too, and it even focusses to infinity (without grinding the mount) although it is mosttly used for shorter distances anyhow.

   

I hadn't realised it is possible to Frankenstein an Exakta lens on A-mount, the flange distance of Exakta is only 0.2 mm longer than A-mount, leaving no space for an adapter (never seen an Exakta to A-adapter). And naturally you can use M42 helicoids on A-mount but not on 'normal' lenses.
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The Domiron is a trifle wild. But I had similar response from the Oreston. And my sensor is mucked up again, avid lens collectors are avid lens swoppers.


Sun shower

Camera Model: ILCE-7M3
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 1/2500 sec
ISO: 100

Seating arrangement

Camera Model: ILCE-7M3
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 0.001 sec (1/1250)
ISO: 100

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From Blijdorp Zoo

Daylilies

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 1/3200 sec
ISO: 100

Asian Lion

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 1/4000 sec
ISO: 100

Bamboo bokeh

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 0.008 sec (1/125)
ISO: 500

Fading fence

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 1/4000 sec
ISO: 100

From the streets of Rotterdam

3+1 flowers

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Meyer - Optik Görlitz Domiron 2/50 (1960, Exakta)
Aperture: f/2
Exposure Time: 1/8000 sec
ISO: 100
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For many people this would not be the first lens to pick for a zoo visit, but these are great "zoo shots" Paul!
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I like what I've seen from that Domiron. It is probably the only Meyer that I might still seek. I recently purchased a Trioplan 100mm (finally). I'd love to see more from the Domiron, Paul, keep at it, please.

I have a Leotax Leonon 2/50 that has a similar rendering.
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Originally posted by Dena Dena wrote:

So intrigued by these vintage lenses. I was looking into buying one, now been gifted 2. First the Mamiya 55 f1.4, which I find is sharp with wonderful bokeh, and now Lou just gave me a Soligor 105mm f2.8. The images he made had super dreamy bokeh. Both M42 mount. So now I have 2 to play with. He is a collector of classic cameras and equipment of all kinds and a great photographer.


The Mamiya is a wonderful lens. I don't know about the Soligor but most in that focal length rage do pretty well. The Mamiya, made by Tomioka, is very sharp and can create some pretty swirl in certain situations.
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Originally posted by woodrim woodrim wrote:

I like what I've seen from that Domiron. It is probably the only Meyer that I might still seek. I recently purchased a Trioplan 100mm (finally). I'd love to see more from the Domiron, Paul, keep at it, please.

I have a Leotax Leonon 2/50 that has a similar rendering.


No problem Mike. This one will definitely be on the camera for a while. Apart from rendering out of focus areas nicely, it is such a good looking lens on the camera.
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Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:

For many people this would not be the first lens to pick for a zoo visit, but these are great "zoo shots" Paul!

Well Fred, I was prepared and brought the ZA 135/1.8 on LA-EA5/A7Riv for butterflies and the FE 200-600 and A7iii for the bigger animals. At the end of the zoo visit I was knackered from carrying. 4 months of almost complete inactivity because of the bad back/leg has put a dent in my stamina. But its coming back....

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Well worth the effort Paul! (and good practice for the next DM )
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